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posted by janrinok on Thursday June 19 2014, @08:04PM   Printer-friendly
from the now-who-said-it-would-never-happen? dept.

A drone that fires pepper spray bullets and includes blinding lasers and on-board speakers has been sold.

South Africa-based Desert Wolf told the BBC it had secured the sale of 25 units to a mining company after showing off the tech at a trade show.

It is marketing the device as a "riot control copter" that can tackle crowds "without endangering the lives of security staff".

But the International Trade Union Confederation is horrified by the idea. "This is a deeply disturbing and repugnant development and we are convinced that any reasonable government will move quickly to stop the deployment of advanced battlefield technology on workers or indeed the public involved in legitimate protests and demonstrations," said spokesman Tim Noonan.

He added that the ITUC would now try to identify which company had ordered the drones.

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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Horse With Stripes on Thursday June 19 2014, @08:13PM

    by Horse With Stripes (577) on Thursday June 19 2014, @08:13PM (#57595)

    How long before local law enforcement in the US starts ordering these types of units?

    Any political protests are potential terrorist breeding grounds and should be immediately dispelled in order to prevent any likeminded individuals from cooperating with each other. There are Presidential political conventions in 2016 that will need some kind of cattle control and these 'non-lethal' weapons (unless it falls on you) are the perfect solution. /sarcasm

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 19 2014, @08:41PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 19 2014, @08:41PM (#57610)

      How long before someone loads the shells with something besides pepper spray?

      • (Score: 4, Informative) by lhsi on Thursday June 19 2014, @09:54PM

        by lhsi (711) on Thursday June 19 2014, @09:54PM (#57636) Journal

        How long before someone loads the shells with something besides pepper spray?

        Probably not very. From the article:

        Desert Wolf's website states that its Skunk octacopter drone is fitted with four high-capacity paintball barrels, each capable of firing up to 20 bullets per second.

        In addition to pepper-spray ammunition, the firm says it can also be armed with dye-marker balls and solid plastic balls.

    • (Score: 2) by Reziac on Friday June 20 2014, @02:35AM

      by Reziac (2489) on Friday June 20 2014, @02:35AM (#57750) Homepage

      I can understand using such an armed drone if you're, say, a mining operation in an area where bandit attacks can be a real issue, like some parts of Africa. It might be the best way to protect your workers and your assets.

      But for the rest of us... y'all got your drone hunting permit? All right, let's go get 'em!

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      • (Score: 3, Interesting) by dry on Friday June 20 2014, @05:08AM

        by dry (223) on Friday June 20 2014, @05:08AM (#57812) Journal

        More likely for use on the pesky workers if they start demanding better working conditions or getting paid in cash instead of script spendable at the company store.

        • (Score: 2) by Reziac on Friday June 20 2014, @05:20AM

          by Reziac (2489) on Friday June 20 2014, @05:20AM (#57818) Homepage

          Considering that folks work in such places because it's a better living than subsistence farming... I kinda doubt it. They don't need eyes overhead for workers on the ground, they have armed guards for that. But what's out in the bush... different story. You go looking for bandits, chances are they get you instead. Wait for 'em to attack and it's too late. Best to spot 'em from above and discourage 'em on the spot.

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    • (Score: 2) by davester666 on Friday June 20 2014, @06:00AM

      by davester666 (155) on Friday June 20 2014, @06:00AM (#57821)

      Do you accept negative numbers? I'm sure they have already been ordered by some offices already, and with more publicity, more will order them.

      They are great, easy denial of ownership and control of the unit. It's fun without consequences.

      • (Score: 1) by Horse With Stripes on Friday June 20 2014, @10:56AM

        by Horse With Stripes (577) on Friday June 20 2014, @10:56AM (#57892)

        Do I accept negative numbers? I hadn't thought of it, but you're probably right. Any sales to US law enforcement agencies are probably covered by an NDA of some sort.

  • (Score: 4, Funny) by Bot on Thursday June 19 2014, @08:14PM

    by Bot (3902) on Thursday June 19 2014, @08:14PM (#57597) Journal

    I would be mildly scared about this development if I were a rioter.
    I would be TERRIBLY scared about this development if I were a policeman.

    At least, rioters can buy a sign-carrying, pepper-spray resistant, radio-guided protester drone.

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    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by kaszz on Friday June 20 2014, @01:02AM

      by kaszz (4211) on Friday June 20 2014, @01:02AM (#57712) Journal

      Servos + Gun + Detection device = Drone free zone anywhere.

      Air defense is old. Drone will not be exempted. Oh don't forget that pesky radio link as in weak link.

    • (Score: 2) by AnythingGoes on Friday June 20 2014, @01:22AM

      by AnythingGoes (3345) on Friday June 20 2014, @01:22AM (#57724)
      I predict that within 10 years, there will be a law that limits civilian use of remote controlled flying objects.
      Anybody want to take a bet? :)
  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 19 2014, @08:30PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 19 2014, @08:30PM (#57605)

    I thought the people were trained by now to put their minority opinions on twitter and facebook, where opinions can be safely ignored and have no significant consequence. The powerful stay in power, the malcontents are deluded into thinking someone is listening to them, everybody wins!

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 19 2014, @09:31PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 19 2014, @09:31PM (#57631)

      but logged

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by TheLink on Friday June 20 2014, @03:39AM

      by TheLink (332) on Friday June 20 2014, @03:39AM (#57775) Journal

      I thought the people were trained by now to put their minority opinions on twitter and facebook, where opinions can be safely ignored and have no significant consequence.

      If what you say is true why do many regimes clamp down on social media?

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Facebook [wikipedia.org]
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Twitter [wikipedia.org]

      Do not underestimate the power of communication and convincing other people to your side.

      In the USA voters can actually vote differently if they wanted to. Go ask them, nobody is forcing most of them to vote a certain way.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 20 2014, @04:01AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 20 2014, @04:01AM (#57784)
        In a democracy - "yelling on the streets" protests are overrated. Such protests can more easily be subverted by agent provocateurs to become something more violent, giving excuses for either side to do nasty undemocratic stuff.

        While you can, it is far better to change your government using votes, and convince the voters by education and communication. Social media can be used to spread your message, but do it wrong and you just get "echo chambers" of likeminded people.
        • (Score: 2) by Yog-Yogguth on Tuesday July 08 2014, @10:54AM

          by Yog-Yogguth (1862) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday July 08 2014, @10:54AM (#65834) Journal

          AC wrote:

          "In a democracy - "yelling on the streets" protests are overrated. Such protests can more easily be subverted by agent provocateurs to become something more violent, giving excuses for either side to do nasty undemocratic stuff.

          While you can, it is far better to change your government using votes, and convince the voters by education and communication. Social media can be used to spread your message, but do it wrong and you just get "echo chambers" of likeminded people."

          Tried modding you up as insightful but since it's late and I was the only one it didn't catch, thus I'm quoting you instead/as well for increased visibility. Some would disagree with the points you make (and some of that might be right as well) but I think you're making important arguments that one should be aware of.

          I would argue that it would be even better to change government stances and actions due to inescapable facts rather than votes; if one can actually make the problem their own direct personal problem and hopefully even publicly exposed (it doesn't have to be anything bad or illegal, just factual) then something is more likely to get done or at least attempted.

          To be sly with kindness if one can.

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by AnonTechie on Thursday June 19 2014, @09:02PM

    by AnonTechie (2275) on Thursday June 19 2014, @09:02PM (#57618) Journal

    What can possibly go wrong with such drones ?? Will the authorities ever learn ??

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