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posted by azrael on Tuesday July 08 2014, @07:11AM   Printer-friendly
from the cut-them-in-half-and-count-the-rings dept.

One of the long-standing difficulties in astrophysics has been a way to accurately determine the age of a star. Brand new stars are obvious from their location in or near "star nurseries" of interstellar gas and dust, and "adult" stars can be roughly characterized through various methods, including a calculation based on their mass and luminosity. Unfortunately, these methods are approximations at best. Researchers at KU Leuven's Institute for Astronomy have now discovered a way to distinguish young stars from older ones by measuring the acoustic waves that they emit using ultrasound technology.

The result of the accretion of shrinking clouds of gas and dust particles, a star evolves from "newborn" to "adolescent" as growing gravitational forces cause it to contract. As these forces continue, the star becomes smaller, denser, and hotter until the core temperature is great enough to trigger thermonuclear fusion. Once this stage has been reached, and the star has stabilized in its size and fusion energy production over a very long period of time, it is classed as an "adult" and generally remains in this state for many billions of years. As a general rule, as an adult star ages it becomes brighter. This means it is possible to approximate the ages of these stars using a calculation based on their mass and luminosity. This method works particularly well for stellar objects in their main sequence, where they are stable, adult stars falling within a particular range of mass, color, and luminosity.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 08 2014, @07:27AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 08 2014, @07:27AM (#65761)

    I like how the entire second paragraph is just an elaboration on calculating star age based on mass and luminosity, and not about sound waves as the title and first paragraph suggested.

    Great summary guys!

    • (Score: 2) by q.kontinuum on Tuesday July 08 2014, @07:42AM

      by q.kontinuum (532) on Tuesday July 08 2014, @07:42AM (#65769) Journal

      I was thinking the same, especially since the first paragraph points out how these estimates are "approximations at best", while the unexplained sound method is supposed to be superior.

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    • (Score: 2) by aristarchus on Tuesday July 08 2014, @08:13AM

      by aristarchus (2645) on Tuesday July 08 2014, @08:13AM (#65779) Journal

      Abstract refers to asteroseismology, not sound waves, which would, I believe, require a medium between us and said star?

      • (Score: 1) by cyrano on Tuesday July 08 2014, @02:23PM

        by cyrano (1034) on Tuesday July 08 2014, @02:23PM (#65927) Homepage

        It's sound allright. It's only picked up on earth through light ;-)

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        • (Score: 2) by aristarchus on Tuesday July 08 2014, @10:00PM

          by aristarchus (2645) on Tuesday July 08 2014, @10:00PM (#66223) Journal

          Maybe it is the analogy that is throwing everybody off:

          "Think of it as ultrasound of stellar embryos," explains study co-author Professor Jaymie Matthews from the University of British Colombia. "

          [from the Gizmag article]

          To be picky, (which I would never do), it is detection of vibrations by means of light, so it is not sound, or not sound as we know it, and the ultrasound thing is an artifact of the analogy to studying very young (in utero) humans. This demands a re0visit of the old chestnut, "If a star is born in a gaseous nebula and nobody sees it, does it make a sound?"

          • (Score: 1) by cyrano on Wednesday July 09 2014, @02:37PM

            by cyrano (1034) on Wednesday July 09 2014, @02:37PM (#66548) Homepage

            Optical microphones exist. Don't they record sound?

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            • (Score: 2) by aristarchus on Wednesday July 09 2014, @11:07PM

              by aristarchus (2645) on Wednesday July 09 2014, @11:07PM (#66797) Journal

              And no doubt there are sonic cameras, as well! Nope, optical microphones are recording a vibration of light, that is somehow related to or caused by a vibration in a medium, such as gas, which some would call "sound", but is not sound until it is converted.

    • (Score: 2) by Tork on Tuesday July 08 2014, @08:40AM

      by Tork (3914) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday July 08 2014, @08:40AM (#65792)
      The headline got your attention, derr.
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    • (Score: 3, Informative) by wonkey_monkey on Tuesday July 08 2014, @10:08AM

      by wonkey_monkey (279) on Tuesday July 08 2014, @10:08AM (#65815) Homepage

      It's the first two paragraphs of this article [gizmag.com].

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  • (Score: 4, Informative) by wonkey_monkey on Tuesday July 08 2014, @10:10AM

    by wonkey_monkey (279) on Tuesday July 08 2014, @10:10AM (#65817) Homepage

    As a previous commenter has pointed out, the summary barely touches on the acoustic method, with the second paragraph solely talking about established methods of dating stars.

    The reason for this is that the two paragraphs have been copied directly from this Gizmag article [gizmag.com].

    If you're not going to write your own summary, you could at least credit the people who did the work for you with a link.

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    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by AnonTechie on Tuesday July 08 2014, @10:56AM

      by AnonTechie (2275) on Tuesday July 08 2014, @10:56AM (#65835) Journal

      My mistake ... sorry !

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 08 2014, @02:10PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 08 2014, @02:10PM (#65919)

        Why are you submitting stories that apparently you either have not read or do not understand?

        • (Score: 2) by AnonTechie on Tuesday July 08 2014, @06:17PM

          by AnonTechie (2275) on Tuesday July 08 2014, @06:17PM (#66094) Journal

          Your comment hurts .. I forgot to include the link ...

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  • (Score: 2) by redneckmother on Tuesday July 08 2014, @04:31PM

    by redneckmother (3597) on Tuesday July 08 2014, @04:31PM (#66026)

    I'm confused. Is this "in space, no one can hear you scream" or "music of the spheres"?

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