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posted by azrael on Thursday July 17 2014, @05:17PM   Printer-friendly
from the status-quo dept.

The BBC News and RT reports that:

A Swedish court has upheld an arrest warrant for WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, who found shelter in Ecuador's embassy in London two years ago.

The Stockholm District Court moved to uphold the warrant on Wednesday following a legal challenge from Assange's lawyers in June. The challenge was spurred by a change to Swedish criminal proceedings regarding the right to information in criminal procedures which brings the country in line with an EU directive.

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  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by Jeremiah Cornelius on Thursday July 17 2014, @05:44PM

    by Jeremiah Cornelius (2785) on Thursday July 17 2014, @05:44PM (#70363) Journal

    Assange's lawyers had an enormous number of winning arguments. That Assange didn't win, demonstrates that Sweden really is crooked and the US extortion works wonders.

    The hearing to attempt to lift the Swedish Assange detention order was covered live here. [falkvinge.net]

    If they HAD lifted it, it would have been interesting to see what hilarious crap the British would come up with to make sure he stayed in London anyway.

    It took a while for orders to come in from Washington, but arrive they did, and Assange lost.

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    • (Score: 3, Informative) by dublet on Thursday July 17 2014, @05:52PM

      by dublet (2994) on Thursday July 17 2014, @05:52PM (#70367)

      IIRC he's wanted in the UK for resisting arrest as he didn't show up at the police station when he was supposed to. This is an entirely seperate matter from whether he's complying with the extradition order or not. Even if that was lifted, he can still be arrested for resisting arrest and subsequently extradited from the UK.

      Of course, INAL.

    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by looorg on Thursday July 17 2014, @06:19PM

      by looorg (578) on Thursday July 17 2014, @06:19PM (#70379)

      To base your understanding of the hearing on the interpretation of one of Assanges fanboys (Falkvinge) is probably not a very good or neutral source. If they had had enormous numbers of winning arguments then we wouldn't have been in this situation. The situation is beyond stupid but it doesn't prove that the swedish legal system is somehow crooked or a lapdog to America; Sweden probably is but then so is most of the world by the same argument.

      • (Score: 5, Insightful) by zugedneb on Thursday July 17 2014, @07:38PM

        by zugedneb (4556) on Thursday July 17 2014, @07:38PM (#70435)

        How should I put this to sound sane: I suspect, in every country there is some things in its legal system (culture) you don't want happening to you; that is, the court proceedings are not there to clarify responsibility, or clear up misunderstandings in contracts or so. When it happens, you are just punished. Because all is handled by people...

        Example, in some Arab countries, if they claim you burned pages from the Coran and it come up to trial, you know you are doomed. Or, they say you cheated on husband, and you are guilty by definition...

        Now I have not been all around the world, but have lived in Sweden for a while.
        Here, they argue, for every "rape" that gets into light, there are tens if not hundreds in the dark...
        They want to "avenge" them, I would say...

        Yes, it is a fairly liberal place regarding sexuality and such, the women here are not to be messed with...
        They are angry for all crimes committed by man against woman and children, ever, by anyone, and they mean it, and take it literally and seriously... And angry for the salary differences, angry for the number of man in power, angry that women on film have boobs, and so forth...
        Here, these are very infected "topics" mostly because they are constantly "present"...

        If dating or at work, avoid talking politics, psychology, evolution, gender roles, neurochemistry - actually anything that may be different between the genders...

        And don't ever, EVER fuck with feminists... Neither literally nor figuratively...

        And, YES, I do not believe that you, or me, would get a fair investigation, or trial if we would get in trouble with women...

        bye bye, little karma

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        • (Score: 5, Informative) by Hairyfeet on Friday July 18 2014, @03:38AM

          by Hairyfeet (75) <bassbeast1968NO@SPAMgmail.com> on Friday July 18 2014, @03:38AM (#70600) Journal

          Man none of that shit even matters when we have a smoking gun courtesy of Ecuador. the government of Ecuador said quite clearly and plainly "we will deny him protection if you will simply hand us in writing that he is to be taken for the crimes he is accused of in Sweden and not to be transferred to US custody"...The Swedes refused.

          I'm sorry but case closed, thanks for playing, its obviously the saber rattling DoJ and NSA pulling on some Swedish puppets because if they actually gave two shits about charging him with rape they would have signed in a heartbeat just to end the thing...they didn't which means only one thing, the SECOND his ass got over international waters he'd be given a "rendition ride" straight to GitMo as a lesson not to fuck with the USSA.

          Ya know, as much as I miss the hell out of my grandfather I'm glad he is not here, because after suffering in WWII against the fascists to see the USA become so fascist as to run camps and pull rendition rides? Would break his heart.

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          • (Score: 2, Informative) by zugedneb on Friday July 18 2014, @04:52AM

            by zugedneb (4556) on Friday July 18 2014, @04:52AM (#70618)

            That seems to be (IS) the truth, but I was aiming at the post above me, and at why this is accepted in Sweden.

            My point is, that if this case would be about parking ticket, or a bar fight, or any other issue, even the swedes would have raised concerns about the lack of above mentioned writing.

            But since this is a "rape" issue, it disintegrates any common sense these people have, and that is why it becomes so bizarre...

            btw, I am not swedish by birth, for whatever its worth

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            • (Score: 2) by Hairyfeet on Saturday July 19 2014, @02:11AM

              by Hairyfeet (75) <bassbeast1968NO@SPAMgmail.com> on Saturday July 19 2014, @02:11AM (#71089) Journal

              Well then you should be protesting loudly at every opportunity that THIS IS AN INSULT to women who have been raped to use the crime of rape as a red herring to give a guy a rendition ride to gitMo and it makes Swedes look like america's bitch. If they want to be looked at as the cousins of the cheese eating surrender monkeys? Go right ahead but I would say every woman should be fucking insulted and royally pissed that they would use rape as a cheap excuse to give the USSA a handjob by grabbing Assange.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 18 2014, @07:58AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 18 2014, @07:58AM (#70672)

        If they had had enormous numbers of winning arguments then we wouldn't have been in this situation.

        You need to visit Russia sometimes. It's a wonderful country. It makes impossible possible. Just not in the way you were expecting it. If you think that, somehow, other countries are immune to that you are pretty nice citizen to have.

  • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 17 2014, @07:05PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 17 2014, @07:05PM (#70412)

    I find this website dealing with the 3 interesting. I do not know if it's reliable etc.

    http://www.nnn.se/ [www.nnn.se]

  • (Score: 1) by epitaxial on Thursday July 17 2014, @10:01PM

    by epitaxial (3165) on Thursday July 17 2014, @10:01PM (#70497)

    Is there a statute of limitations or will he live in that spare embassy room for the rest of his life?

    • (Score: 2, Informative) by knorthern knight on Thursday July 17 2014, @10:27PM

      by knorthern knight (967) on Thursday July 17 2014, @10:27PM (#70510)

      "Statute of limitations" is for filing of charges. E.g. he would have to be charged within X years of the alleged event. Once the charges are filed, the case is in effect, and it doesn't matter how long he's on the run or in hiding.

      • (Score: 2) by GreatAuntAnesthesia on Friday July 18 2014, @01:59PM

        by GreatAuntAnesthesia (3275) on Friday July 18 2014, @01:59PM (#70786) Journal

        Someone should run a kickstarter to tunnel him out of there. I'd love to see the US gov's (metaphorical) face when it becomes clear they've been watching an empty building for months / years and he's living it large in the Caribbean under a false identity.