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posted by janrinok on Monday July 28 2014, @06:36AM   Printer-friendly
from the get-your-popcorn-ready-now dept.

Documentarians working on a film on the history of "Happy Birthday to You" have challenged Warner/Chappel's copyright claims in a lawsuit, alleging that the publishing giant has been fleecing the rest of society for licensing for decades. To quote Cory Doctorow, "This is gonna be great."

[UPDATE:] After some legal maneuverings last Fall the case has survived preliminary challenges [PDF] and is currently in discovery phase until September.

Good luck, Plaintiffs.

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  • (Score: 5, Informative) by sjames on Monday July 28 2014, @07:45AM

    by sjames (2882) on Monday July 28 2014, @07:45AM (#74551) Journal

    I'd say Warner looks like a monkey and smells like one too.

    • (Score: 2, Informative) by jbWolf on Monday July 28 2014, @09:28AM

      by jbWolf (2774) <reversethis-{moc.flow-bj} {ta} {bj}> on Monday July 28 2014, @09:28AM (#74564) Homepage

      Big law suit to you

      Big law suit to you

      Big law suit to Warner/Chappel

      Big law suit to you!

      Hey, you know, this would go great with a tune I once heard...

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      www.jb-wolf.com [jb-wolf.com]
      • (Score: 3, Interesting) by DeathMonkey on Monday July 28 2014, @05:30PM

        by DeathMonkey (1380) on Monday July 28 2014, @05:30PM (#74678) Journal

        Hey, you know, this would go great with a tune I once heard...
         
        Go ahead and sing it brother! The tune is public domain. It's the words that are owned.

  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by jasassin on Monday July 28 2014, @08:00AM

    by jasassin (3566) <jasassin@gmail.com> on Monday July 28 2014, @08:00AM (#74553) Homepage Journal

    How awkward is it when people sing you that song. They deserve to be sued. :)

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    • (Score: 3, Informative) by isostatic on Monday July 28 2014, @03:16PM

      by isostatic (365) on Monday July 28 2014, @03:16PM (#74634) Journal

      I always sing

      What day is today
      It's XXXXX's birthday
      What a day for a birthday
      Lets all have some cake

  • (Score: 3, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 28 2014, @10:21AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 28 2014, @10:21AM (#74571)

    Ahem...

    >Cory Doctorow at 8:51 pm Thu, Jun 13, 2013

    Am I missing something here?

    • (Score: 4, Interesting) by BsAtHome on Monday July 28 2014, @12:32PM

      by BsAtHome (889) on Monday July 28 2014, @12:32PM (#74585)

      No, you are not missing anything, it is "old news". But then again, maybe someone with access to the court documents could enlighten us to the status of the case? Anyone?

      It is a very interesting case, to say the least. But, as with many court cases, the result will probably be less than satisfying. You'd hope that they would have to pay $150k per infraction over the years for the sake of symmetry, but they'll probably will be let off easy. Justice and vengeance are often far apart.

    • (Score: 2) by LaminatorX on Monday July 28 2014, @12:53PM

      by LaminatorX (14) <reversethis-{moc ... ta} {xrotanimal}> on Monday July 28 2014, @12:53PM (#74590)

      More like I was missing something. Perhaps an update is in order. :)

    • (Score: 4, Funny) by Buck Feta on Monday July 28 2014, @01:05PM

      by Buck Feta (958) on Monday July 28 2014, @01:05PM (#74594) Journal

      If only there were a song we could sing to this article in honor of its first complete trip around the sun.

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      - fractious political commentary goes here -
    • (Score: 4, Informative) by LaminatorX on Monday July 28 2014, @01:17PM

      by LaminatorX (14) <reversethis-{moc ... ta} {xrotanimal}> on Monday July 28 2014, @01:17PM (#74595)

      The story has been updated with current information. Thanks for the catch.

      • (Score: 4, Insightful) by isostatic on Monday July 28 2014, @06:28PM

        by isostatic (365) on Monday July 28 2014, @06:28PM (#74712) Journal

        What would be great is an ability it SN to flag this up with "follow-up: November 2014", then it would re-appear in a list

        As it stands I'll certainly have forgotten it by then.

  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by bradley13 on Monday July 28 2014, @02:10PM

    by bradley13 (3053) on Monday July 28 2014, @02:10PM (#74615) Homepage Journal

    You have to love this defense: "Plaintiffs allege that these lyrics were published on various occasions prior to the December 1935 registration. Even if true, this would not show that the author of the lyrics copyrighted under certificate E51990 copied those lyrics from somewhere else. Copyright law requires originality, not novelty"

    The lyrics were apparently in common use, and published in various songbooks, for 30 years before the copyright registration. So the author of that particular, copyrighted arrangement "just happened" to write down the exact same lyrics, entirely by coincidence.

    Shall we start a betting pool? What are the odds of the judge buying that and issuing summary judgement in favor of Warner?

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    Everyone is somebody else's weirdo.
    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by broken on Monday July 28 2014, @10:14PM

      by broken (4018) on Monday July 28 2014, @10:14PM (#74796) Journal
      Even if the 1935 version was an original creation, shouldn't people today be able to legally copy the uncopyrighted earlier versions? If not, this would lead to some strange legal situations where there can be multiple copyright owners who can prevent each other from using the same work, or where public domain material becomes copyrighted by being recreated through original effort. Of course, despite its absurdity, congress has shown that it has no problem with retroactive copyrights to "promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts".
  • (Score: -1, Troll) by oldmac31310 on Monday July 28 2014, @03:44PM

    by oldmac31310 (4521) on Monday July 28 2014, @03:44PM (#74644)

    Cory Doctorow, supposed novelist and other things writes 'this is gonna be great'. No need to read anything else by him or take him seriously. He probably should have ended by saying, 'it's clobberin' time, 'nuff said.

    Idiot

    Happy Birthday song? Who gives a damn? It is bad and annoying. Time for some originality.

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by tathra on Monday July 28 2014, @05:41PM

      by tathra (3367) on Monday July 28 2014, @05:41PM (#74682)

      Happy Birthday song? Who gives a damn? It is bad and annoying.

      it doesnt matter, this is a perfect example of corporations stealing from the public domain and strangling our culture. in this case, they actually did steal it from the public domain since it existed in the public domain for 30 years before the copyright.

      • (Score: 2) by aristarchus on Tuesday July 29 2014, @03:31AM

        by aristarchus (2645) on Tuesday July 29 2014, @03:31AM (#74856) Journal

        This year, we did not sing "Happy Birthday" to one of our family members, since we were in fear of violating copyright, or IDF artillery, or a SAM aimed at our airliner. If people want to own culture, they get their own culture, or in other words, it ceases to be culture.