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posted by martyb on Thursday August 28 2014, @01:27PM   Printer-friendly
from the tell-us-what-you-got dept.

From news.sciencemag.org:

In the wake of several high-profile laboratory safety incidents involving smallpox, anthrax, and dangerous flu strains, the U.S. government is planning to ask federally funded laboratories to pause all work involving “high-consequence” pathogens for 24 hours in order to inventory stocks, according to groups that represent research universities.

“Essentially, what the government will request is a short term on the order of 24 hours suspension of research involving high-consequence pathogens in order to allow institutional lab personnel to take stock of what pathogens they have stored in freezers, cold rooms, etc.,” reads a memo distributed to universities today and signed by Carol Blum of the Council on Governmental Relations (COGR) in Washington, D.C.

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  • (Score: 5, Informative) by strattitarius on Thursday August 28 2014, @02:08PM

    by strattitarius (3191) on Thursday August 28 2014, @02:08PM (#86729) Journal
    They have posted an update saying there is no mandatory time to shut down and it isn't focusing on certain chemicals.
    It's basically a "review your policies and make sure you are following them" memo. The kind of crap you send out about ISO 9001 and OSHA every year or so.

    What I don't get is why the articles can't include a summary of, or a direct link to, or copy/paste the heart of the original document. So I will:

    In the month of September, NIH laboratories will, and grantee institutions and/or contractors are encouraged to, do the following:

    Reexamine current policies and procedures for biosafety practices and oversight to ascertain whether they require modification to optimize their effectiveness;

    Conduct inventories of infectious agents and toxins in all laboratories to ensure that the institution has a record of which infectious agents and toxins are being utilized, has documentation that those materials are properly stored under the appropriate containment conditions, and has documentation that cites the party responsible for appropriate stewardship of the materials; and

    Reinforce biosafety training of investigators, laboratory staff, and members of IBCs to include

    Reexamining training materials and practices being utilized by the institution;

    Updating materials as appropriate; and

    Ascertaining the appropriate frequency of training and conduct training when the interval between training or other considerations warrant it.

    - See more at: http://grants.nih.gov/grants/guide/notice-files/NOT-OD-14-127.html#sthash.ccphZQ7X.dpuf [nih.gov]

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    • (Score: 5, Informative) by bob_super on Thursday August 28 2014, @03:44PM

      by bob_super (1357) on Thursday August 28 2014, @03:44PM (#86765)

      Non-headline: "Labs must keep an inventory of their stock"
      SN headline: "Pause work and inventory agents"
      Murdoch outlet: "Is the government really in control of thousands of killer viruses [sic]?"
      Fox News: "Did the Obama administration willingly allow terrorists get their hands on super-Ebolas?"

      • (Score: 2) by frojack on Thursday August 28 2014, @05:31PM

        by frojack (1554) on Thursday August 28 2014, @05:31PM (#86830) Journal

        Yes, lets tar everyone with the same brush, shall we?
        Best I can see, is Fox saw no reason to cover this at all. Nice try.

        I've worked in a Biosafety level 3 Lab, (computer related), and I know for a fact these places have stuff they didn't have good inventories of.

        Software our company produced was involved with the inventory of all samples and specimens flowing through the lab, and only after completing the entire project were we asked to extend to system to handle the contents of several double padlocked freezers. We weren't told exactly what was in there, and the records had to be encrypted and required both padlock key holders credentials to access.

        This shit tends to build up in these facilities, then someone changes jobs, and soon nobody knows what they have anymore.

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        • (Score: 2) by bob_super on Thursday August 28 2014, @05:42PM

          by bob_super (1357) on Thursday August 28 2014, @05:42PM (#86833)

          Since I already posted, how do I give you points for the anecdotal/interesting part of your post, while not rewarding you for your liminary overreaction?

          I was channel-surfing late last night (PC was out of idle cores), and FN had a big title "Obama's imperial presidency" covering at least 1/8th of the screen as some talking head was yapping. I didn't stick around to hear the latest conspiracy, but you can't blame me for joking about their standard editorial line...

  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by MrGuy on Thursday August 28 2014, @02:40PM

    by MrGuy (1007) on Thursday August 28 2014, @02:40PM (#86742)

    It's nice to project the image that the government is "taking inventory issues seriously" in light of recent troubling events.

    But even a complete inventory of infectious stocks wouldn't have uncovered many of the recent issues, nor would it help prevent similar issues in the future.

    Take the recent smallpox in a storage closet [cnn.com] issue. It's likely the smallpox in question was accidentally left in the "unused" storage room in 1972. It's not on anyone's active inventory, and hasn't been in decades. An inventory of current stocks won't help find any similar issues.

    The problem with taking inventory (of anything, really) is that you almost always have discrepancies. Either unexplained excesses, or material that's unaccounted for. For any inventory of significant size, you're going to find something that doesn't tally (I worked at one point for an industrial company that did a three month "hypercontrol" experiment where we locked an inventory subset in a cage, and had at least two people inspect and sign off on any material flow and count in/out of the locked cage. We STILL had anomalies). Often this is inadvertent - we lost the paperwork on the disposal of something that was properly destroyed, or got a quantity wrong somewhere. Or it's a case like this where we legitimately left something in a closet.

    At some point in the past, someone noted the anomaly, potentially did some investigation to see if the anomaly was recoverable (e.g. did we look in that other box), for some reason failed to check the old storeroom, and so "wrote it off" as an inventory discrepancy. And from then on, it wasn't IN the expected inventory.

    If you really want to proactively stop incidents like this, you'd need to go back to the dawn of tracing, find EVERY inventory anomaly that was ever written off, and explain EVERY SINGLE ONE. That's likely an impossible task.

    I don't have an issue with requesting an inventory (though I'd be highly disturbed if there wasn't a process where taking inventories like this at regular intervals was the expected norm). But it's only going to uncover relatively recent issues. And gives no guidance on what to do other than shrug shoulders if they find an issue.

    The bigger thing to audit (which this makes no mention of) is CONTROLS - what controls are in place around these stocks? How are they secured? Can that security be bypassed unnoticed? How do we keep track of inventory? How are moves or changes to inventories recorded? Who has the ability to modify those records? Can we back up "what's in the log" with some independent check (e.g. security footage)? How frequently are our inventories audited?

    We have reams of documentation around how public companies need to do inventory and tracking. We should demand even more accountability (and transparency) from groups dealing in deadly materials.

    • (Score: 1) by jbWolf on Friday August 29 2014, @09:43AM

      by jbWolf (2774) <reversethis-{moc.flow-bj} {ta} {bj}> on Friday August 29 2014, @09:43AM (#87107) Homepage

      The problem with taking inventory (of anything, really) is that you almost always have discrepancies. Either unexplained excesses, or material that's unaccounted for. For any inventory of significant size, you're going to find something that doesn't tally (I worked at one point for an industrial company that did a three month "hypercontrol" experiment where we locked an inventory subset in a cage, and had at least two people inspect and sign off on any material flow and count in/out of the locked cage. We STILL had anomalies). Often this is inadvertent - we lost the paperwork on the disposal of something that was properly destroyed, or got a quantity wrong somewhere. Or it's a case like this where we legitimately left something in a closet.

      I used to work for a special department at a university that dealt with disabled students so we had specialized equipment. I did inventory two years in a row. My bosses were impressed by how thorough I was. Despite that, I couldn't find a few items that first year. I asked everyone where it could be or who it might have been loaned to. I reported the missing items to my bosses, some of that equipment was removed from inventory, and life moved on. The second year I did it, I pulled my old check list out and was amazed to compare the results. Not only did we have a few items missing that were easy to find last time, but some of the items that were missing the first year were now easily found the second year.

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  • (Score: 1) by lentilla on Thursday August 28 2014, @06:20PM

    by lentilla (1770) on Thursday August 28 2014, @06:20PM (#86850)

    This sounds like an elegant way of addressing a problem. It's not perfect - but it is often said that perfect is the enemy of good. Here we have "permission" from the top level of government to "waste" a day doing spring cleaning. Any space inhabited by humans accumulates things in the back of closets over time and it helps to pause regular work; once in a while; to do a through clean-out of accumulated cruft.

    An excellent outcome would be "hey, Boss, you remember Dr Smithers who had that heart attack last year and died at the age of forty? Well, I found these unmarked bottles in his desk. I wonder what he was working on?"