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posted by n1 on Wednesday September 03 2014, @07:47PM   Printer-friendly
from the robot-wars-on-far-flung-shores dept.

Consider it artificial military intelligence. The Department of Defense wants future generations of fighter aircraft to come with copilots already installed. According to the U.S. Naval Institute, both the Navy and the Air Force want their next generation air superiority fighter to have Artificial Intelligence. http://news.usni.org/2014/08/28/navys-next-fighter-likely-feature-artificial-intelligence

The F-X is a fighter concept in development to replace the Air Force’s current top dog, the stealthy F-22 Raptor, which is designed to outfight any other plane in the sky. However, the Raptor is expensive to produce, and it also suffered in some test dogfighting scenarios. Adding AI could free the pilot's mind to focus more on fewer tasks, giving them a cognitive advantage in battle.

Boeing’s Phantom Works are developing the F/A-XX Advanced Navy Strike Fighter to replace their own F/A-18 Super Hornet (or, more accurately, to replace the F-35C, which will replace the F/A-18 Super Hornet). It’s based on aircraft carriers, which are notoriously challenging to land on. The Navy’s own X-47B experimental drone has landed on an aircraft carrier successfully and autonomously, so adding a computer co-pilot to a naval craft could help there too.

http://www.popsci.com/article/technology/pentagon-wants-artificial-intelligence-future-fighters

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  • (Score: 3, Funny) by jasassin on Wednesday September 03 2014, @08:12PM

    by jasassin (3566) <jasassin@gmail.com> on Wednesday September 03 2014, @08:12PM (#89055) Homepage Journal

    Well, it would be amusing if the A.I. hosed and started considering Amazon delivery drones as hostile enemies.

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  • (Score: 3, Funny) by buswolley on Wednesday September 03 2014, @08:29PM

    by buswolley (848) on Wednesday September 03 2014, @08:29PM (#89062)

    To me this is news that is obvious. I mean, flying involves a number of controls and such, but from an obstacle perspective, it is a much simpler problem to solve than driving a car. The ground is there. Don't hit it. And so on.

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    • (Score: 3, Funny) by VLM on Wednesday September 03 2014, @09:59PM

      by VLM (445) on Wednesday September 03 2014, @09:59PM (#89101)

      What you're talking about is a terrain following autopilot, which is "old stuff" since the 80s or so.

      I'm kinda puzzled what the AI would do, aside from joke answers.

      My guess is a system to do ATC and teamwork besides human voice would be quite helpful. So your autopilot tells their autopilot you're breaking left so it would be highly wise for them to break right, without having to actually talk about it, all while informing ATC/AWACS whats up simultaneously.

      Another combat aircraft PITA I know from simulators is there's about fifty crazy radar modes and an expert system might be quiet handy. Clippy pops up and says "I see you're in a turning battle, would you like to enable funnel target scanning in a narrow vertical bar rather than default surveillance scan mode?"

      Some magic button that says "automatically do a better than half A job of running the ECM EECM and jammer gear" would probably help a busy pilot.

      If you're supporting ground troops, having "siri" talk to them to authenticate and talk over what they want done might speed things along when you're really busy. "I'm sorry I can't come to the phone right now because I'm avoiding a infra red surface to air missile. But if you'd leave your name, serial number, and grid coordinates of your enemy target at the beep, I'd be glad to bomb them later... beeeep"

      • (Score: 2) by buswolley on Thursday September 04 2014, @01:08AM

        by buswolley (848) on Thursday September 04 2014, @01:08AM (#89154)

        Interesting ideas. My slightly tongue in cheek post earlier was serious
        : flying is easier than driving for an AI to figure out. Its more controlled and there are fewer objects to identify.

        AI makes sense for combat because it can withstand G forces we cannot, can potentially coordinate tactics much more quickly than humans with other aircraft. Expert systems could be employed seamlessly and with minimum switching cost (cognitive). I am pretty sure that at the tactical level AI could out fly duel any human today if properly implemented

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        • (Score: 2) by aristarchus on Thursday September 04 2014, @08:18AM

          by aristarchus (2645) on Thursday September 04 2014, @08:18AM (#89244) Journal

          Tongue in between teeth at +6 G-force: OK, it may make you fart differently, but are you actually saying that since AI may be able to tolerate G-forces better than human pilots, that this some how makes them more moral? I prefer my war criminals to pass out on the sharp turns. Works out better for everyone.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 04 2014, @02:18PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 04 2014, @02:18PM (#89348)

        I'm kinda puzzled what the AI would do, aside from joke answers.

        Well, an AI that can do joke answers would certainly also be an interesting project, but I guess not one the Pentagon would be very interested in.

  • (Score: 2) by Theophrastus on Wednesday September 03 2014, @08:32PM

    by Theophrastus (4044) on Wednesday September 03 2014, @08:32PM (#89066)

    ...and the farmer's spouse decided to sue, would they sue: (a) the DoD (2) Boeing (iii) intel (Δ) microsoft (ה) Eric Schultz, contract programmer ?

    ("which-ever has the deepest pockets, you dumb #$@!")

    • (Score: 2) by jasassin on Wednesday September 03 2014, @08:43PM

      by jasassin (3566) <jasassin@gmail.com> on Wednesday September 03 2014, @08:43PM (#89069) Homepage Journal

      IANAL, but if there's one reading this I'd love an answer to this excellent question!

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    • (Score: 2) by buswolley on Wednesday September 03 2014, @08:47PM

      by buswolley (848) on Wednesday September 03 2014, @08:47PM (#89070)

      a,2,iii,Δ,ה

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    • (Score: 2) by gman003 on Wednesday September 03 2014, @09:13PM

      by gman003 (4155) on Wednesday September 03 2014, @09:13PM (#89081)

      Man, we're really putting that new Unicode support to good use!

  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by damnbunni on Wednesday September 03 2014, @09:06PM

    by damnbunni (704) on Wednesday September 03 2014, @09:06PM (#89077) Journal

    ... can we get some actual intelligence in the procurement process, first?

    • (Score: 2) by Nerdfest on Wednesday September 03 2014, @09:31PM

      by Nerdfest (80) on Wednesday September 03 2014, @09:31PM (#89091)

      I think government procurement may be the one place where Hanlon's Razor does not apply.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 03 2014, @09:21PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 03 2014, @09:21PM (#89085)
    • (Score: 2) by quadrox on Thursday September 04 2014, @06:55AM

      by quadrox (315) on Thursday September 04 2014, @06:55AM (#89221)

      Well, I wish everyone could just forget about that... thing. I wouldn't call it a movie.

  • (Score: 3, Funny) by looorg on Wednesday September 03 2014, @09:47PM

    by looorg (578) on Wednesday September 03 2014, @09:47PM (#89096)

    "I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that."

  • (Score: 2) by arslan on Wednesday September 03 2014, @10:25PM

    by arslan (3462) on Wednesday September 03 2014, @10:25PM (#89109)

    Second link doesn't seem to work... and the first one doesn't say anything about an AI for parking planes..

    In any case, this reminds me of the movie Macross Plus.. if you like planes and AI, check this movie out. It is made in the late nineties but still a very nice movie (or anime movie) to watch, even better if you got a good sound system.

  • (Score: 2) by kaganar on Thursday September 04 2014, @12:34AM

    by kaganar (605) on Thursday September 04 2014, @12:34AM (#89144)

    There was interest in using brainwave controls in fighter jets decades ago, but it couldn't be explained how people could control their brainwaves exactly -- only that they could. As a result the project was scrapped.

    Advanced AI seems to fall into this category. The things that we can explain conclusively aren't really AI. (e.g. "expert" systems) The things we can't explain very well are some of the best AI we've got for "hard" problems. (e.g. deep nets)

    • (Score: 2) by JeanCroix on Thursday September 04 2014, @12:40PM

      by JeanCroix (573) on Thursday September 04 2014, @12:40PM (#89323)
      That jet existed. Clint Eastwood stole it from the Russkies, and we ended up developing it into a fairly successful web browser.
  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 04 2014, @08:07AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 04 2014, @08:07AM (#89238)

    Testing planes is a dangerous job but this could be borderline suicidal...