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posted by n1 on Friday September 05 2014, @01:23AM   Printer-friendly
from the half-man-half-machine dept.

ExtremeTech reports:

DARPA, on the back of the US government’s BRAIN program, has begun the development of tiny electronic implants that interface directly with your nervous system and can directly control and regulate many different diseases and chronic conditions, such as arthritis, PTSD, inflammatory bowel diseases (Crohn’s disease), and depression. The program, called ElectRx (pronounced ‘electrics’), ultimately aims to replace medication with “closed-loop” neural implants, which constantly assess the state of your health, and then provide the necessary nerve stimulation to keep your various organs and biological systems functioning properly.

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  • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Friday September 05 2014, @01:29AM

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Friday September 05 2014, @01:29AM (#89621) Journal
    Mmmm... I see... 'tis the brain version of chiropractic.
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    • (Score: 3) by frojack on Friday September 05 2014, @01:42AM

      by frojack (1554) on Friday September 05 2014, @01:42AM (#89633) Journal

      Never mind that bullet hole young man, you feel great, Go get em.

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      • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Friday September 05 2014, @02:20AM

        by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Friday September 05 2014, @02:20AM (#89651) Journal
        Not to mention it can also cure the undesirable ethical qualms of the bearer: for a very brief time, just increase the voltage and the doubts are gone.
        Veterans may also benefit of the ultimate treatment for any of their ailments.
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      • (Score: 2) by EvilJim on Monday September 15 2014, @06:14AM

        by EvilJim (2501) on Monday September 15 2014, @06:14AM (#93290) Journal

        Sounds like methamphetamine / provigil to me.

    • (Score: 4, Informative) by takyon on Friday September 05 2014, @02:19AM

      by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Friday September 05 2014, @02:19AM (#89650) Journal

      I think it's more about intercepting and modifying signals sent between organs and the brain, in order to alleviate symptoms or achieve much more complex outcomes. In that context (if it works) pain management would be the easiest fix of all, but it wouldn't be likely to "cure" arthritis by relieving inflammation. If an implant can affect or replace the involuntary nervous system, that's where you could see bowel problems being fixed. As for depression and PTSD, rerouting electric impulses in the brain could certainly act as an effective treatment. It's not far off from current treatments [nih.gov] for epilepsy and depression, or deep brain stimulation for Parkinson's.

      The end goal of something like ElectRx would be a system that is smaller, less invasive, can be tuned to treat multiple disorders simultaneously and continuously, and perhaps... mandatory...

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      • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Friday September 05 2014, @02:27AM

        by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Friday September 05 2014, @02:27AM (#89653) Journal

        can be tuned to treat multiple disorders simultaneously and continuously

        Not to mention that it will make the wearing a tin-hat fashionable. You know, just in case (suitcase size EMP devices [soylentnews.org], hackers, etc)

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        • (Score: 1) by takyon on Friday September 05 2014, @03:51AM

          by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Friday September 05 2014, @03:51AM (#89685) Journal

          Fun times ahead

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          • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Friday September 05 2014, @04:36AM

            by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Friday September 05 2014, @04:36AM (#89696) Journal

            Fun times ahead

            Yeap. But I'm not laughin' (yet... at least not until they won't forcefully implant me with one and turn the knob to "stupid grin" position)

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      • (Score: 1) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 05 2014, @09:23AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 05 2014, @09:23AM (#89749)

        A device that can manipulate your pain nerves? How long until someone uses it for a 1984-style pain machine?

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Subsentient on Friday September 05 2014, @01:40AM

    by Subsentient (1111) on Friday September 05 2014, @01:40AM (#89631) Homepage Journal

    Reminds me of biblical stuff. That's how it will start, for health, then money, then Microsoft ThinkRight (TM) etc.
    All seems well and good until you realize you are Borg, with the lack of free will to match.
    Anyone who thinks this technology will not be abused by governments is kidding themselves.

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    • (Score: 2) by Subsentient on Friday September 05 2014, @01:40AM

      by Subsentient (1111) on Friday September 05 2014, @01:40AM (#89632) Homepage Journal

      And, don't trust those chips. Stay away. *hiss*

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    • (Score: 1) by High Five on Friday September 05 2014, @07:56AM

      by High Five (1234) on Friday September 05 2014, @07:56AM (#89730)

      Joss Whedon's 'Dollhouse' [wikipedia.org] is a good sci-fi exposition on the subject matter here.

    • (Score: 4, Interesting) by cafebabe on Friday September 05 2014, @12:05PM

      by cafebabe (894) on Friday September 05 2014, @12:05PM (#89787) Journal

      It reminds me of a series of games and, in particular, Syndicate Wars [wikipedia.org] from 1996.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 05 2014, @06:12PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 05 2014, @06:12PM (#89911)

      Free will is an illusion anyway. If something like this reminds you of biblical stuff, you may be extremely superstitious. Maybe you were just raised with superstition and haven't completely recovered yet.

      It's sad that you get modded up because you tacked on the anti-government paranoia so popular with geeks who have gone off the deep end. Not even your blatant primitive superstitions dissuaded their anti-government knee-jerk reactions.

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by NoMaster on Friday September 05 2014, @01:47AM

    by NoMaster (3543) on Friday September 05 2014, @01:47AM (#89642)

    Shouldn't the title really be "DARPA Wants to Develop Implants that Treat Diseases and Depression Without Medication"?

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    • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Friday September 05 2014, @02:53AM

      by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Friday September 05 2014, @02:53AM (#89660) Journal

      DARPA [...] has begun the development of etc

      Since they already started, "develops" is correct.
      If they successfully finish the development, I guess we'll be reporting "DARPA developed etc". Just don't hold you breath until then.

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      • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 05 2014, @07:05AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 05 2014, @07:05AM (#89721)

        The word "develops" implies that significant progress is currently being made.

        • (Score: 2) by tibman on Friday September 05 2014, @01:31PM

          by tibman (134) Subscriber Badge on Friday September 05 2014, @01:31PM (#89809)

          I tell my fellow developers this all they time but they still don't make much progress : )

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  • (Score: 3, Funny) by Appalbarry on Friday September 05 2014, @01:52AM

    by Appalbarry (66) on Friday September 05 2014, @01:52AM (#89643) Journal

    I'll just wait for the field trials to wrap up, plus about ten years to see what the long term side-effects turn out to be.....

    And why do I assume that the NSA will have a back door.....

    • (Score: 4, Funny) by c0lo on Friday September 05 2014, @02:29AM

      by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Friday September 05 2014, @02:29AM (#89654) Journal

      And why do I assume that the NSA will have a back door.....

      I suspect you already have one, why would NSA need another?

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  • (Score: 2) by kaszz on Friday September 05 2014, @01:54AM

    by kaszz (4211) on Friday September 05 2014, @01:54AM (#89644) Journal

    Implant linked to a mainframe, and you can accomplish that true Matrix experience. With a all your will r00ted by NZA.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 05 2014, @02:50PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 05 2014, @02:50PM (#89841)

      I'd rather be r00ted by RZA.

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Snotnose on Friday September 05 2014, @01:59AM

    by Snotnose (1623) on Friday September 05 2014, @01:59AM (#89645)

    Until Comcast has one. It's a sad day when I trust Comcast more than my government.

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    • (Score: 2) by tathra on Friday September 05 2014, @05:53PM

      by tathra (3367) on Friday September 05 2014, @05:53PM (#89901)

      if there's one government agency you can trust, its DARPA - all they do is create and fund the creation of technology, most of which ends up benefiting civilians far more than the military or government. DARPA is responsible for the internet and GPS, and Tor came directly from DARPA-funded work. here's an article [pcpro.co.uk] on some technologies that DARPA had a hand in creating.

      DARPA would be something like the scientists kidnapped by evil geniuses for their world domination plots; they aren't responsible for what others do with the technology they create.

      • (Score: 2) by Snotnose on Sunday September 07 2014, @12:14AM

        by Snotnose (1623) on Sunday September 07 2014, @12:14AM (#90379)

        Up until a few years ago people thought the NSA's input into cryptography and computer security showed they were the good guys. And I have no doubt that pre-9/11 they mostly were the good guys.

        DARPA has done a lot of great things, I agree with you on that. But they are a US government agency, and one thing I've come to realize over the last 10 years is no US government agency can be trusted.

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  • (Score: 2) by PinkyGigglebrain on Friday September 05 2014, @03:00AM

    by PinkyGigglebrain (4458) on Friday September 05 2014, @03:00AM (#89664)

    This is how it starts.

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  • (Score: 1) by nishi.b on Friday September 05 2014, @11:01PM

    by nishi.b (4243) on Friday September 05 2014, @11:01PM (#90013)

    This seems to be the logical next step after current brain stimulation devices : making them smaller.

    Closed-loop systems are tried since a number of years now; in my lab there is ongoing research on detecting the onset of an epileptic seizure and stopping the propagation of the signal to the rest of the brain using classical deep brain stimulation. This is called a closed-loop system as there is a constant monitoring of the signal to detect an event, then a response sent through the same electrode, not a continuous electrical stimulation such as in Parkinson's disease deep brain stimulation.
    According to the article, this is more about miniaturization than real advances in the use of these systems. I am not sure where things are on nerve stimulation and signal decoding, but pain should be the obvious place to start (pain fibers are well known, and electrical stimulation could be used to stop the signal from getting to the brain).
    The rest seems to be a lot of speculation (all diseases ?).
    It leaves a lot of work to do : how can we detect that this signal is not good, where should we put the implant, what kind of stimulation should be applied and where... These are not solved questions !