An issue was brought to our attention by user Tanuki64 where we were limiting the amount of comments a user could post per day. A code review showed that the daily limit was 10 for ACs, 2 for users with negative karma, 25 for users with less than 25 karma, and 50 for users with more karma than that.
We believed that these limits were hurting the community and the values have been increased requiring a slash reboot that gave some of you 503 errors earlier. The limits are now 150 for ACs, 25 for negative karma, 150 for users under 10 karma, and 999 for users with 10 and higher karma. These limits may seem a bit high, but we chose these values to make sure people using our Tor address would be able to post even if they all seem to come from one IP address.
As always comments are welcome, whether positive or negative.
(Score: 2) by present_arms on Wednesday September 17 2014, @10:46PM
I've hit the comment limit a couple of times getting a 503 :)
http://trinity.mypclinuxos.com/
(Score: 2) by frojack on Thursday September 18 2014, @03:59AM
Doubt it, looks like you only have about 175 comments all-time.
No, you are mistaken. I've always had this sig.
(Score: 3, Funny) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday September 18 2014, @10:24AM
Whoosh!
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 17 2014, @10:55PM
I am very pleased to hear this! Raising the limits is an excellent decision.
This is the kind of thing that has bothered me for years over at Slashdot. They have the stupidest limits in place, and I don't think they would ever even consider making any changes. But here just a single user speaks, and real change happens so quickly! This responsiveness is something that can surely make this a much better site than Slashdot.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 18 2014, @12:20AM
I don't have an account and have only hit my limit 3 times in 7 months.
Each time, after about a half hour, I was good to go again.
I wonder if flame wars will now become more common.
There was already a racist AC the other day who bloated up a thread insisting he wasn't a racist.
-- gewg_
(Score: 2) by tibman on Thursday September 18 2014, @02:15AM
I really liked it when SN fixed the broken lame/shouting filter. Little tweaks here and there really add up.
SN won't survive on lurkers alone. Write comments.
(Score: 3, Informative) by hankwang on Thursday September 18 2014, @06:43AM
"when SN fixed the broken lame/shouting filter."
It used to be worse? If you start a thread and forget the subject, it will give a cryptic message like "cat on your tongue, nothing to say?" Took me forever last time, because I thought it didn't like all the URLs with too little text in between.
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(Score: 2) by paulej72 on Thursday September 18 2014, @11:40AM
Team Leader for SN Development
(Score: 2, Interesting) by zugedneb on Wednesday September 17 2014, @10:59PM
Will there be a karma reset system for those with bad karma?
Say, after a couple of months it resets to neutral?
Background is this: I liked to read comments on slashdot, did not post for a long while... But eventually I got pissed, and trolled the wrong people, and got bad karma.
These "wrong people" now, have nothing to do with (contemporary) history, industry, or, technology at all - these topics I never troll. They were the social media type of people; they hunt in packs :D
Now, my karma over there is bad, and I can not post in topics where even I would have relevant things to say...
My fault, of course... But, can't stand some type of people...
Still, I think, that if some user hurts the feelings of these "important, social" (psychopaths) type of people, and they mod that user "into oblivion", this should not hunt that user for ever.
Maybe some limit on how much karma can be lost within a day would be good...
old saying: "a troll is a window into the soul of humanity" + also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ajax
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 17 2014, @11:07PM
This is a superb idea! The problem you are describing is very real. If you dare question certain groups at Slashdot or HN or reddit they will hunt you down and they will group-mod your account to death. For all the screaming they do about "tolerance" they sure do like to try to censor people at those sites who happen to express a differing viewpoint! But I digress. You are right, karma should never be able to be used as a long term weapon by warriors of social justice or Ruby programmers or whatever they like to call themselves these days. I wish never to have somebody here fall victim to that sort of harassment by downmodders!
I would even say give all users 999 comments, regardless of whether or not they have an account and regardless of how many karma points they may have. The 25 limit makes little sense if that same person could just post AC and get 150 more comments! Karma is an archaic hold over from the early days of the Internet when censorship was seen as something good. But we are enlightened during these modern days and we know that free expression, not the crushing of it, is what makes online communities great!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 18 2014, @11:15AM
If you dare question certain groups at Slashdot or HN or reddit they will hunt you down and they will group-mod your account to death.
I ran into this just yesterday on HN. In the Debian apt vulnerability thread, I said I might switch back to using Slackware since it doesn't have a package manager per se that could be corrupted like that. I got quite a few upvotes, then came the apt lovers claiming I was spouting nonsense about not verifying source hashes and other BS, and I got modded into oblivion (I didn't specify that I verify hashes - which I do - and they took that omission as saying I didn't and ran with it). One of the oldest HN users then went into a tirade about how I was being immature and childish for defending my position, never mind that in his own profile he calls out brigading and mobbing.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 18 2014, @12:13PM
I don't know why this is, but I've tended to observe that kind of downvote mobbing happening the worst when the discussion involves projects and people who proclaim to support freedom and openness the most.
The GPL, Debian, Mozilla, Perl, Ruby and JavaScript communities are among the worst perpetrators of that kind of communal downvoting.
(Score: 2) by paulej72 on Wednesday September 17 2014, @11:12PM
Team Leader for SN Development
(Score: 4, Interesting) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday September 17 2014, @11:19PM
You could submit stories too. Easy way to get out of the cellar really.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 18 2014, @08:48AM
tmb, might be worth highlighting the karma bonus for an accepted submission. not sure if its documented somewhere already, but maybe could also be displayed prominently to a user if their karma falls below a certain value (10 maybe). sometimes its hard to find info, and getting bad karma if your comments are genuine can be disparaging so a tip to help might be welcome
coffee++
ps. i like trains
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 17 2014, @11:21PM
Users shouldn't have to redeem themselves when they didn't even commit any sort of a crime in the first place. Merely having an opinion that others may dislike should not be something that you need to repent for! The problem isn't with the person who expresses the unpopular opinion. The problem is with the gangs of downmodders who will abuse moderation to censor those whom they oppose. Being a victim of a downmod gang attack shouldn't mean that you have to post "good" (whatever that even means!) comments just to again be able to express yourself. That is punishing the victim, when it is the offenders (the gang of downmodders) who should be punished.
(Score: 4, Informative) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday September 17 2014, @11:34PM
I tend to agree but some people very much earn their bad karma.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 1) by Tork on Thursday September 18 2014, @04:09AM
I tend to agree but some people very much earn their bad karma.
I'd prefer a trained moderator make that decision than the randomly chosen masses that think your smartphone OS preference is enough to warrant modding you down.
🏳️🌈 Proud Ally 🏳️🌈
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 18 2014, @04:19AM
Who trains moderators? Is there some college program that offers Internet forum moderation courses?
(Score: 1, Redundant) by Tork on Thursday September 18 2014, @04:34AM
🏳️🌈 Proud Ally 🏳️🌈
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday September 18 2014, @10:22AM
Ahh but SoylentNews is People. Kind of our founding principle and all that this is your site, we just keep things running. I really don't want to end up with reddit-like tyranny.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by arashi no garou on Thursday September 18 2014, @11:47AM
I think you're exactly right: The people should continue to be allowed to moderate. There's no such thing as a perfect system, and heavily censored sites like HN and Reddit prove that when the site owners get involved in meta-moderating, the people's voice gets muted. I don't think SN is big enough to even have roving brigades at this stage. Maybe it's something that will need to be addressed as we grow larger, but for now I think the moderation system is working as intended.
(Score: 1) by Tork on Thursday September 18 2014, @04:52PM
🏳️🌈 Proud Ally 🏳️🌈
(Score: 2) by Tork on Thursday September 18 2014, @05:50PM
🏳️🌈 Proud Ally 🏳️🌈
(Score: 1) by arashi no garou on Thursday September 18 2014, @06:04PM
Exactly, which is why I said it may need to be addressed in the future, as the site grows. Any time you have more than one person, you have the opportunity for an argument. Add a third person and you may just get a troll. We don't have a lot of members here yet, and only a few AC trolls so far, but the site will inevitably grow to the point that meta-moderation will have to be revisited. But right now it seems the system is working as intended, at least as far as I can tell.
(Score: 2) by Tork on Thursday September 18 2014, @06:28PM
🏳️🌈 Proud Ally 🏳️🌈
(Score: 2) by frojack on Thursday September 18 2014, @04:12AM
Seriously, why would a AC say something like:
Merely having an opinion that others may dislike should not be something that you need to repent for!
You've already insulated yourself from any criticism just by posting AC!
Maybe its HOW you state your opinions rather than what you state?
No, you are mistaken. I've always had this sig.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 18 2014, @04:16AM
It's not about me. I get sick to my stomach when I see perfectly fine comments modded down. I don't care who posted them! That's irrelevant. Censorship disgusts me regardless of who the victim is, and regardless of who the perpetrator is.
(Score: 2) by monster on Thursday September 18 2014, @01:55PM
True, but form also matters. If someone is posting a perfectly valid argument, but the post is full of name-calling, it could still be rightly downmodded as flamebait.
Let's keep SN a civil place, please.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by zugedneb on Wednesday September 17 2014, @11:25PM
Not sure, honestly...
If this site grows, even the "bad" kind of trolls will be using that same feature...
Thus, many will not read at -1, just for the sake of giving aid to some fallen paladins :D
By the way, I should have mentioned that before some incident, I used to have positive karma...
I do not see the reason to "fight" my way back, just because some "mindset" feels insulted.
Still think, bad karma should fade with time, slowly reset to 1, unless the user in question really wants to keep it low...
old saying: "a troll is a window into the soul of humanity" + also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ajax
(Score: 2) by bob_super on Wednesday September 17 2014, @11:49PM
Good karma should fade with time too, something like a point per day if you don't post, and one per week in which you don't get upmodded.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 18 2014, @01:59AM
As someone who had a full 50 karma before I decided to go AC, I am in agreement that good karma should expire. It will encourage positive contributions. I think policy decisions that encourage good rather than punish bad are the way to go because erring on the positive side doesn't really hurt anyone but erring on the negative side can be very discouraging.
(Score: 2) by NCommander on Thursday September 18 2014, @09:24AM
It's been long planned. I just haven't gotten around to rewriting the entire karma/mod system.
Still always moving
(Score: 1) by canopic jug on Thursday September 18 2014, @10:38AM
That would be welcomed. Would all the points last just as long, or would the extremes disappear faster with the rate at which it approaches 1 or 0 slowing?
Money is not free speech. Elections should not be auctions.
(Score: 2) by frojack on Thursday September 18 2014, @04:21AM
If this site grows, even the "bad" kind of trolls will be using that same feature...
One of the things that chased me from that green site, is the horrendous influx of ACs. Its now like 80% ACs over there. Nobody is willing to take responsibility for what they say, so they log in as AC, hoist their balls, and start slinging insults rather than engaging in conversation, or supporting their views.
Its one drive by shooting after another.
I think 10 posts per day by ACs was plenty.
No, you are mistaken. I've always had this sig.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 18 2014, @08:43AM
from http://sylnt.us/suggest#Suggestions_from_IRC [sylnt.us]
for moderation, maybe allow anyone to moderate at any time as long as they are logged in and haven't contributed to the conversation, and only have a 'report spam' option as the only negative mod available ~ crutchy @ 02:11, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
i don't post logged in very often cos of the negative karma trolls
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 18 2014, @11:57AM
What really makes "frojack" or any other username less anonymous than "Anonymous Coward"? Nothing.
And what stops somebody with an account from posting the exact same content thst they'd post as AC? Nothing.
I see anti-AC comments like yours often enough at /., and they always sound so silly. The username associated with a comment in no way guarantees or dictates the quality of the comment.
(Score: 2) by RaffArundel on Thursday September 18 2014, @01:00PM
Quality - not at first, but it does certainly help me classify the quality once I get familiar with the poster. So are you the AC that makes good points, or the one flinging monkey feces?
I don't always agree with frojack, and some of the posts come off jerky, but I know when I see the header what to expect. By using "frojack", he or she is taking credit and/or responsibility for the posts under that name. AC's have to be lumped together (minus that weird "signing" thing gweg_ does) and if this site turns out like the green one, there will be three kinds of AC: modders, sock puppets and trolls. I'm not sure that there is a lot of value in any of those that I would choose to raise the limit. I regularly get mod points so I go at -1 around here, but that is going to change if we get flooded by AC crap posts.
As for the limits - meh, don't care. I'm surprised that there was an issue (that many AC's using TOR on the same exit node or proxy posting here? interesting) but since I don't AC all it will do is possibly change my filter when reading replies.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 18 2014, @01:46PM
When someone posts as an AC, you should assign it zero credibility while understanding that valid reasonining is valid reasoning no matter who posted it.
However, people are simpler than that: if there are 1000 ACs merely parroting the same opinion (in sufficiently obfuscated way so that they aren't obviously connected), it will appear as something popular enough to be legitimate.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 18 2014, @04:55PM
Posting as AC because, you know, I can. While I am sensitive to the issue of trolls using AC to do "drive by shootings", I think that having the AC option does have one nice side effect. I have noticed on more than one occasion that people have posted comments which are clearly directed at the person rather than what they actually wrote. Too many people seem to use comments in a misguided attempt at settling old scores. On the other hand, anonymity seems to force people to direct their responses at the issue rather than the person. While this still leaves the group vulnerable to "drive bys", these can be mitigated by down modding the offenders. Just my $0.02, of course.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by aristarchus on Thursday September 18 2014, @01:09AM
You are forgetting how they most likely got in the karma hell in the first place! More posts will probably have the opposite effect.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 17 2014, @11:29PM
> I got pissed, and trolled
That sums it up pretty nicely.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 17 2014, @11:33PM
I think you are probably misrepresenting the situation even more so than you already were by taking his comment out of context like you just did.
By "trolled" I think he meant that he voiced a dissenting opinion when some very intolerant and abusive people were around, and they banded together to harass him though downmodding.
These attacks happen all the time at HN. Somebody will post some really good points about how the GPL isn't suitable for their needs, and this will bring the GPL zealots out of the woodwork. These GPL zealots will downmod and downmod and downmod until the person who posted the good comment is drowning in bad karma. These attackers are so weak minded that they cannot take even valid criticism of their preferred opinions!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 18 2014, @09:41AM
He said:
But eventually I got pissed, and trolled the wrong people, and got bad karma.
If he had meant to say something different, he should learn to communicate better. If he hasn't learned to communicate better he deserves his oblivion karma.
It's more likely he actually trolled them and got down modded to oblivion.
I've posted stuff that got modded down (sometimes wrongfully in my opinion). What you do is just move on to a different topic/story. If you start/keep trolling, it means you haven't grown up and should leave the posting to others.
It's not like Slashdot didn't have enough posts. Slashdot didn't have enough _high_quality_ posts.
Lastly if people want a karma reset they can always create a new account. If they have to keep creating new accounts it means they haven't learned much or they are posting to the wrong forum/audience in which case their posts getting hidden is a feature not a bug.
(Score: 1) by arashi no garou on Friday September 19 2014, @01:54AM
These attacks happen all the time at HN.
I've seen that as well, which is why I just go there for the headlines and stay out of the conversations. I'm not founding or working at a startup, so I doubt they'd find my opinion valid anyway (at least that seems to be the prevailing attitude there; "you aren't one of us so shut up").
It's a shame too, because once in a while the holy rollers sleep and really thoughtful conversations bubble to the surface. It's just a shame that more often than not, a perfectly valid or reasonable opinion is greyed out and attacked because it doesn't follow the herd.
(Score: 2) by nyder on Thursday September 18 2014, @08:26AM
How about you just learn to post correctly?
(Score: 2) by umafuckitt on Thursday September 18 2014, @08:56AM
Why did you not choose reasoned argument instead of "trolling"? If the only appropriate response to what others were saying was trolling, then surely it would have been better for you not to have bothered responding in the first place. I would have thought the whole point of the moderation system is to reduce the quantity of angry, trolling replies.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by bob_super on Wednesday September 17 2014, @11:20PM
Can we reduce the "one minute between posts" limit?
I often post while I'm working. I'll see two comments/articles I want to reply to, but instead of a few seconds, the second post takes over a minute... It's not terminal, but it's annoying.
Make it 60 seconds minus Karma, if you're afraid of AC spammers.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 17 2014, @11:25PM
This is a superb idea, too! Or just ramp up the limit over time. Allow 5 comments within a minute, and if the user consistently exceeds that then introduce every growing delays.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday September 17 2014, @11:36PM
Damn, that's not a bad idea. I may steal it.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by goodie on Thursday September 18 2014, @12:54AM
Hear, hear! Sometimes I want to answer 2 or 3 comments in a row and have tabs prepared, just waiting to be proofread before hitting submit. It's a great idea IMHO.
(Score: 3, Informative) by paulej72 on Thursday September 18 2014, @01:04AM
Team Leader for SN Development
(Score: 2) by frojack on Thursday September 18 2014, @04:02AM
This.
No, you are mistaken. I've always had this sig.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 18 2014, @04:21AM
I would not mind paying for that feature, but I do not want to create an account in order to do so. I've got too man damn accounts at various sites already. I don't need another. Besides, it's not the name on my comments that matter. It's the content of them.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 18 2014, @07:36AM
If you comment as a logged in user, there is a check box "Post Anonymously" if you don't want to attach your name to the posts. (And if this site is too unimportant for you to create an account for, even with a throwaway email address, then it'd be unlikely that you'd be visiting it enough to hit various comment limits)
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday September 18 2014, @10:34AM
What AC said. You can be a subscriber and still post everything AC. There's even a setting under Preferences->Comments to set this as your default.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 4, Interesting) by Jaruzel on Thursday September 18 2014, @01:53PM
Random thought...
Hows this: Maybe a Registered And Logged In User ticking the 'post as AC', but they don't post as 'Anonymous Coward' but as 'Registered User' - their identity is still obscured but additionally carries the weight of being a real user, and not some drive-by AC.
Probably a fair bit of work to implement tho :(
-Jar
This is my opinion, there are many others, but this one is mine.
(Score: 1) by arulatas on Thursday September 18 2014, @02:35PM
I like this idea.. sadly no mod points today.
----- 10 turns around
(Score: 2) by WizardFusion on Friday September 19 2014, @12:17PM
+1 for this.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 18 2014, @09:57AM
Besides, it's not the name on my comments that matter. It's the content of them.
You assume your comments matter. Not all of us may agree. Looking at Slashdot I doubt SN's problem would be not enough comments from ACs.
If your comments really matter to you that they should be posted, either you pay in time (wait) or pay in time and effort to create an account, or pay in $$$ for a subscriber account.
Otherwise, it's very likely it doesn't actually matter that much if they never were posted at all.
Or it might even be better if they weren't posted at all- just like your post and my reply to your post - SN would have more signal and less noise without both of them.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 18 2014, @01:58PM
Currently I'd rather look at the absolute amount of signal rather than proportional. I haven't yet run into a topic with so many posts that it'd make sense to filter them.
(Score: 2) by martyb on Thursday September 18 2014, @01:06AM
I could be mistaken, but I believe that is one of the benefits of subscribing [soylentnews.org] to SoylentNews.
Unfortunately, I cannot be certain. The subscription page does a good job of explaining HOW to subscribe, but I did not see anything there about WHY I would subscribe.
Wit is intellect, dancing.
(Score: 2) by martyb on Thursday September 18 2014, @02:03AM
(I apologize for the poor form of replying to myself.)
I found this story: Subscriptions Live on SoylentNews; Please Support Us [soylentnews.org] which was posted on Thursday August 28, @12:01PM [EDT]. It states, in part:
As I see it, the benefits to subscribers are few enough as it is. (In addition to supporting this site — Thank You!) I would cast my vote for keeping this a subscription-only benefit.
Given the opportunity for spam that these relaxed limits allow, I am not in favor of increasing the daily limits for Anonymous Cowards. (I seem to recall we got hit with some spam posts about a month or two into this site's existence. The time spent cleaning up that mess was time that could have been better spent in other endeavors on this site.) Like so many things in life, there are tradeoffs, and in light of these possibilities, I think it quite reasonable set limits who can post comments without a rate limit.
I'd even go so far as to suggest reverting this change back to the rate-limit values we had before the update. SPAM ruined USENET for me; I'd hate to see it happen here, too.
Wit is intellect, dancing.
(Score: 2) by zafiro17 on Thursday September 18 2014, @09:55AM
I disagree, even though I've gotten that error message on more than one occasion (and been irritated by it) myself. The idea is to promote, longer, more interesting, better thought-out posts. You're unlikely to have those kind of posts if you can rapid-fire out your responses. So on that basis, I support the time limit.
One of my complaints about Reddit is that no post is longer than a sentence or two, and it quickly makes threads digress into rapid one-liners, pun wars, and other stuff that isn't that useful. (It's less of a problem on technical subreddits, but it's still there).
Making people truly explain themselves is an important part to useful technical discussion, I think. I also believe that the new Slashdot Beta interface not only encourages this kind of Reddit posting but also encourages posting as an anonymous coward. And look what that's gotten them! The quality of post on /. now is almost ridiculous.
Dad always thought laughter was the best medicine, which I guess is why several of us died of tuberculosis - Jack Handey
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 18 2014, @12:17AM
You know, this is the kind of things that makes me loyal to SN. Thanks for improving the site!
I actually saw Tanuki64's comment [soylentnews.org] complaining about this a few hours ago:
Your complain has been heard and the issue was fixed in mere hours. Care to show a bit of appreciation here, T64? ;)
(Score: 3) by richtopia on Thursday September 18 2014, @01:40AM
I do enjoy promoting good comments, however it seems like I rarely have mod points. If they didn't expire so fast I would mod more.
Or: don't have all mod points expire. Have 6 that will expire rapidly, but 4 stick around, encouraging you to burn through six while four will be available in the future.
(Score: 2) by umafuckitt on Thursday September 18 2014, @08:59AM
The expiration is important, but why not have the clock start ticking from three days after receiving the points or from when the first point is used (whichever comes sooner).
(Score: 2) by bootsy on Thursday September 18 2014, @10:51AM
What time zone is the deadline for moderating in? I am in GMT, I assume is one of the US time zones but it would be helpful to print that or even better adjust to my preference. You do everything internally in UTC right?
(Score: 2) by istartedi on Thursday September 18 2014, @01:57AM
If you're logged in IP shouldn't matter. If you know that traffic coming from a particular IP is ToR,
then you could just increase the limit for ACs posting from there. Otherwise, just use their login to make
these decisions. Am I missing something here?
I can't imagine any legit. reason for me to post 999 times in one day while logged in; but I can imagine
that many posts coming from multiple users posting as AC via ToR.
Appended to the end of comments you post. Max: 120 chars.
(Score: 2) by tibman on Thursday September 18 2014, @02:21AM
The Tor thing seems strictly for ACs as they are not logged in at all. Being logged in over Tor would use your karma and not the 150 per IP limit.
SN won't survive on lurkers alone. Write comments.
(Score: 2) by frojack on Thursday September 18 2014, @04:07AM
Your IP does matter in subtle ways.
It can be a problem when several people in the same company decide to post on the same story through the same router. Especially if one of them has mod points.
No, you are mistaken. I've always had this sig.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 18 2014, @03:14AM
It's not like comments are overflowing here.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 18 2014, @04:25AM
I'm starting to see more comments here for some stories than I'm seeing at Slashdot. And the commentary here is so much better than what's being posted to HN or over at reddit.
(Score: 2) by marcello_dl on Thursday September 18 2014, @03:53PM
> It's not like comments are overflowing here.
Are you kidding me, anonymous coward? half of the comments here are YOURS -.-
(JK)
(Score: 2) by marcello_dl on Thursday September 18 2014, @03:56PM
Comments on a story about comment limits is very meta.
BTW this very comment is very meta-meta.
(Score: 2) by kaszz on Thursday September 18 2014, @04:23AM
The limit on how short interval between posts can be is more limiting than the limit of number of posts in total. It wastes time.
(Score: 1) by fatuous looser on Thursday September 18 2014, @08:12AM
A moderation system is arguably necessary to the well-being of a site such as Soyville, but it overvalues the opinion of the Mass Man. (The Mass Man [a-la Carl Jung] owns an iPhone or equivalent & consults it regularly to keep abreast of "social media." It provides a soothing milieu of consensus & "sharing.")
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Folks in the know don't care diddley about automated surveys & pay no attention whatsoever to the reckoning of how many thumbs are up & how many down.
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What might be useful would be a system to rate a poster's (il)literacy or (in)ability to articulate a thought. Seems to be an awful lot of fuzzy, nebulous thinking & bad English in Soyville.
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Oh noes, there went my "karma." BFD
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 18 2014, @08:26AM
yeah! finally found the *.onion domain of soylent news: 7rmath4ro2of2a42.onion!
but i found that sometimes when posting (to soylentnews.org) from my samsung tablet that connects to the internet thru
wifi that gets torified transparently that if i take too long to compose a message that is errors out.
you can try it yourself.
i assume that the problem is that when i click "post" and take time to check all my spelling errors
that the tor-exit has changed in the mean time and when i click "submit" it then throws a error... or something?
the "other" site doesn't have this problem tho. don't know how they solved it, but i can take my sweet time to compose and check spelling and it doesn't error out when going thru a tor-exit.
ok sometimes i can't load the "other" site at all because it complains about "abusive proxy" and the tor-exit i'm coming thru has been banned altogether : )
this has never happened on soylentnews.org ... ever ...(yet?)
(Score: 3, Interesting) by NCommander on Thursday September 18 2014, @09:22AM
There's code in Slashcode to specifically block Tor clients. We don't have it enabled, and for those coming through the onion address, you should appear to Slash as a "normal" user. Rapid IP changes cause bad juju to happen with session cookies (something long overdue for a rewrite), which is what causes things to go boom when you use the it. A lot of that is anti spam/abuse crap tor accidently trips. I don't regularly use the tor onion hole, but if you can make it reproducable, we can look at trying to fix it.
Still always moving
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 18 2014, @12:16PM
... if i take too long to compose a message that is errors out.
Whenever I have this problem (with any website, probably for a variety of different reasons), it's taught me to either:
+ Compose my text in a local text editor
+ Make a local copy before hitting the "submit" button