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posted by LaminatorX on Sunday October 05 2014, @10:00PM   Printer-friendly
from the Patient-0' dept.

A study published in Science (abstract) has traced the origin of HIV back to Kinshasa in the 1920s. The authors say Kinshasa, now in the Democratic Republic of Congo, did undergo an explosive population growth at the time while supporting an abundant sex trade. These factors, combined with the use of unsterilized needles at health clinics and the railways moving a million people in and out of the city each year, conspired to start the pandemic. "HIV is a mutated version of a chimpanzee virus, known as simian immunodeficiency virus, which probably made the species-jump through contact with infected blood while handling bush meat. The virus made the jump on multiple occasions. One event led to HIV-1 subgroup O which affects tens of thousands in Cameroon. Yet only one cross-species jump, HIV-1 subgroup M, went on to infect millions of people across every country in the world."

"HIV came to global attention in the 1980s and has infected nearly 75 million people."

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  • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 05 2014, @10:30PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 05 2014, @10:30PM (#102210)

    So some jungle bunny screws a chimpanzee in 1920 and million of gays die 60 years later... win-win for everyone except the chimpanzee.

    • (Score: 1) by Ethanol-fueled on Sunday October 05 2014, @11:22PM

      by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Sunday October 05 2014, @11:22PM (#102226) Homepage

      I dunno, I think the chimpanzee probably enjoyed it, wild animals are like that.

      I was at the lake the other day and saw 2 male ducks gang-banging a female duck, pointy duck-butts were bumping against each other all over the place. Not to mention that the weight of the two males was holding the female duck underwater, and her head popped up every now and then to gasp for air. That day there were plenty of kids at that lake. Their parents probably had a lot of explaining to do later.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 05 2014, @11:29PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 05 2014, @11:29PM (#102228)

        Animals can't give consent, so by definition beastiality is rape. Like sex with a retard, or a fully developed, post-pubescent, cock-hungry minor, or a drunk chick who pulls your dick out and stuffs it down her throat, whether it was enjoyed or not is beside the point, its still legally rape. Thats partly just proof of how fucked the laws are though.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 05 2014, @11:52PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 05 2014, @11:52PM (#102232)

          Consent is a social construct.

        • (Score: 2) by Techwolf on Monday October 06 2014, @02:15AM

          by Techwolf (87) on Monday October 06 2014, @02:15AM (#102267)

          Ever has a k9 hump your leg?

          Try rapeing a hourse. You be lucky to walk away. Hoofs can break and shatter your knee in an instence. And if one hoof lands on your chest, slim chance of living.

          Animials can communate in many different ways besides the spoken language.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 06 2014, @02:08PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 06 2014, @02:08PM (#102416)

            Try raping a horse

            I did. She liked it. She said "I wish all the equine stallions were as big as you."

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 05 2014, @11:42PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 05 2014, @11:42PM (#102229)

      b u s h m e a t

      Where's your study?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 06 2014, @08:19AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 06 2014, @08:19AM (#102329)

        Ah, so a member of the Bush family was involved? ;-)

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 06 2014, @12:23AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 06 2014, @12:23AM (#102240)

      I'm confused by this. I've always heard that every problem in Africa is because of white people. How could this problem have possibly be caused by a chimpanzee, then?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 06 2014, @12:44AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 06 2014, @12:44AM (#102243)

        Whites colonized Africa, and made them poor enough to eat shitty bush meat, increasing the risk vectors.

        • (Score: 2) by mendax on Monday October 06 2014, @01:45AM

          by mendax (2840) on Monday October 06 2014, @01:45AM (#102257)

          shitty bush meat

          I hear that it's actually pretty tasty. it's kind of a delicacy. There is a reason why some tribe in New Guinea uses the words in their language "long pig' to refer to people. Apparently, we taste like pork, and chimps taste like us. Pork is very tasty as you non-kosher, non-halal bacon lovers know.

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          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 06 2014, @08:22AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 06 2014, @08:22AM (#102330)

            Actually, pigs are also quite similar to us in biological terms, which is why it is one of the favourite animals for medical research.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 06 2014, @10:26PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 06 2014, @10:26PM (#102725)

              Plus the researchers get to turn the control group into bacon.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 06 2014, @02:24AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 06 2014, @02:24AM (#102270)

          So what else were they eating before whites came? Oh, that's right, they were already eating bushmeat.

          Agriculture developed in the Middle East. It hadn't even spread to many parts of Africa by the time that whites arrived. The only reason farming happens in certain areas of Africa today is because it was introduced by whites.

      • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Monday October 06 2014, @05:02AM

        by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Monday October 06 2014, @05:02AM (#102308) Journal

        I've always heard that every problem in Africa is because of white people. How could this problem have possibly be caused by a chimpanzee, then?

        Blame him! [about.com]

        (ducks for cover)

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 06 2014, @08:25AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 06 2014, @08:25AM (#102331)

          (ducks for cover)

          I don't think being covered by ducks is a very pleasant experience ... ;-)

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 06 2014, @11:06AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 06 2014, @11:06AM (#102362)
            You should try it some time.
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 06 2014, @10:02AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 06 2014, @10:02AM (#102350)

        From this Wikipedia article [wikipedia.org]:

        Amit Chitnis, Diana Rawls, and Jim Moore proposed that HIV may have emerged epidemically as a result of the harsh conditions, forced labor, displacement, and unsafe injection and vaccination practices associated with colonialism, particularly in French Equatorial Africa. The workers in plantations, construction projects, and other colonial enterprises were supplied with bushmeat, which would have contributed to an increase in hunting and, it follows, a higher incidence of human exposure to SIV. Several historical sources support the view that bushmeat hunting indeed increased, both because of the necessity to supply workers and because firearms became more widely available.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 05 2014, @10:37PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 05 2014, @10:37PM (#102213)

    ...let's get 'em!!!

  • (Score: 2) by mendax on Monday October 06 2014, @01:48AM

    by mendax (2840) on Monday October 06 2014, @01:48AM (#102258)

    It's no accident that it is believed the origins of the Ebola virus are also in the bushmeat trade, although the root cause is not in the animals being butchered. Perhaps we should leave those poor chimps alone.

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    • (Score: 2) by VLM on Monday October 06 2014, @01:43PM

      by VLM (445) on Monday October 06 2014, @01:43PM (#102408)

      There is an interesting strain in pop culture where its simultaneously accepted that:

      1) Human diseases can be mutated / evolved off animal diseases

      2) Evolution is just a theory and the christian god created everything that'll exist once a long time ago.

      3) Space aliens, if they arrive, will infect us with cooties or we'll infect them (both?) and one of us will die off even though we're likely closer genetically to slime molds than space aliens and most people probably aren't going to cook or mate with space aliens and vice versa.

      Combining the three into one thought explains why Americans get so many headaches.

      • (Score: 2) by mendax on Monday October 06 2014, @10:17PM

        by mendax (2840) on Monday October 06 2014, @10:17PM (#102716)

        Space aliens don't infect us with cooties; girls do. Didn't you learn that in school? Of course, once we get older we discover that girls don't infect us with cooties. They infect us with STD's (and vice versa).

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 06 2014, @03:38AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 06 2014, @03:38AM (#102288)

    are an Ethanol troll. We need more members.

    • (Score: 2) by aristarchus on Monday October 06 2014, @04:38AM

      by aristarchus (2645) on Monday October 06 2014, @04:38AM (#102302) Journal

      Ethanol troll

      That is redundant, but point taken. I for one feel that Soylent will never succeed until it can deal with this bĂȘte noire. Perhaps it would help not to post articles on racism or sexual deviance?

      • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Monday October 06 2014, @11:22AM

        by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Monday October 06 2014, @11:22AM (#102365) Journal

        Perhaps it would help not to post articles on [...] sexual deviance?

        What??? Give up "fuck systemd"**? Com'on mate, not even Cromwell dared! Seriously, check [archive.org] by yourself

        ** can you imagine more extreme deviance than fucking something worse than a rotten piece of shit?

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    • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 06 2014, @08:28AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 06 2014, @08:28AM (#102333)

      Yeah, I agree, we also need Methanol trolls, Butanol trolls and Propanol trolls. ;-)

      • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Monday October 06 2014, @11:36AM

        by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Monday October 06 2014, @11:36AM (#102368) Journal
        I'll take care of the catechol trolls.
        If time did allow, the "Rosacea karlsbadensis rugo" bark-extract trolls too.
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