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posted by janrinok on Friday October 10 2014, @07:27PM   Printer-friendly
from the very-large-canaries-in-very-large-numbers dept.

Common Dreams reports:

Federal biologists have discovered an unusual phenomenon on a beach in northwest Alaska: a massive gathering of walruses — 35,000 of them — crowded onto a small strip of shore. This swarm, which was sighted in a National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration aerial survey on Saturday, is a direct result of a warming climate and declining sea ice, say scientists.

Pacific walruses, who live in the Bering Sea during winter, require floating sea ice to meet their survival needs, using them for rest in between journeys to forage for food, such as clam, snails, and worms, as well as for giving birth and caring for their young. But as the oceans warm, this sea ice is receding, especially near coastal areas, forcing these walruses to take to the beach for resting and foraging, according to an explanation from the NOAA.

"The walruses are telling us what the polar bears have told us and what many indigenous people have told us in the high Arctic, and that is that the Arctic environment is changing extremely rapidly and it is time for the rest of the world to take notice and also to take action to address the root causes of climate change", said Margaret Williams, managing director of the group's Arctic program, in a statement.

[...]similar large aggregations of walruses have been seen in and near the area in recent years. The [World Wildlife Fund] tracked 20,000 walruses on the shore at Ryrkaipiy on the Chukchi Sea in Russia in 2009

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  • (Score: 2) by frojack on Friday October 10 2014, @08:04PM

    by frojack (1554) on Friday October 10 2014, @08:04PM (#104596) Journal

    The haul-outs of walruses is nothing new.

    Further this gathering happened in the middle of summer, which is normally ice free at those latitudes.
    I've seen these haulouts myself, even photographed them, and been down wind of them. (Not pleasant).

    When Ice comes, they will haulout on Ice, having very little choice in the matter. But when Ice is not there they use land. It bothers them not in the least. They are actually closer to their shallow water food sources than they would be if they were fenced off by 50 miles of sea ice.

    Seeing 35k of them in one place says more about the health of their population than anything else.
    Not every unusual animal behavior spells impending disaster. Its a warm summer day, the cows are fertile, lets party boys!

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    • (Score: 2) by jcross on Friday October 10 2014, @08:16PM

      by jcross (4009) on Friday October 10 2014, @08:16PM (#104598)

      > Its a warm summer day, the cows are fertile, lets party boys!

      It took me a second there to figure out you were quoting the walrus bulls, and until then I was imagining this was a dairy farmer talking to his buddies. Unusual animal behavior indeed.

    • (Score: 2, Flamebait) by aristarchus on Friday October 10 2014, @08:57PM

      by aristarchus (2645) on Friday October 10 2014, @08:57PM (#104605) Journal

      One of the better written and persuasive global warning denial posts I have read! Nothing to see here! Move along, especially because of the smell.

      ( I have always wondered if BP and Exxon pay individually, or is there a pooling of resources for good blog posts? And do they pay by the post, or is it more like being on retainer? Of course, the fact that people post global warming denying posts on blogs in no way means that there is any shilling going on. It could just be nice summer day, with cows.)

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 10 2014, @09:15PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 10 2014, @09:15PM (#104611)

        What the hell are you on about? If the walrus the gathering happens and has happened before, how is that a GW denial post? It just seems to point out that this is not a proof of GW. And your BP, exxon rant is just weird.

      • (Score: 1) by khallow on Friday October 10 2014, @10:05PM

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Friday October 10 2014, @10:05PM (#104634) Journal
        Maybe you could petition the SN administration to rename your account with something better approaching your desired level of intellectual discussion. OTOH, if you don't want your sacred cows gored by the observation bias fallacy, then get a higher quality of evidence.
        • (Score: 2) by aristarchus on Saturday October 11 2014, @04:35AM

          by aristarchus (2645) on Saturday October 11 2014, @04:35AM (#104688) Journal

          I don't think that "goring" was what the Walrus bulls had in mind. But your objection is noted. And your check is probably in the mail. I know nothing about such thing, but if you want to take on the NOAA, be my guest. (You climate denier, you!) Besides, to quote another walrus from Alaska, "Do you know who I am?"

          • (Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday October 11 2014, @04:45AM

            by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday October 11 2014, @04:45AM (#104690) Journal

            I know nothing about such thing

            Then shut the fuck up until that state changes.

            but if you want to take on the NOAA, be my guest. (You climate denier, you!)

            What makes them any different than say the NSA in terms of telling the truth? They're pursuing their self-interests with a story that just so happens to pander to a voting bloc that Obama needs in order to retain control of the US Senate.

            • (Score: 2) by aristarchus on Saturday October 11 2014, @04:55AM

              by aristarchus (2645) on Saturday October 11 2014, @04:55AM (#104693) Journal

              Are you, or are you not, taking money from petroleum companies to post on Soylent News? (if you are doing this for free you are a sucker!). And do you or do you not live in the great state of Montana? And further, do you, or do you not, know who Aristarchus of Samos was (or is, in his Soylent incarnation)?

              • (Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday October 11 2014, @10:38AM

                by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday October 11 2014, @10:38AM (#104723) Journal
                When you have nothing to say, then maybe you shouldn't say it? And I suggest changing your name to "aristarchus plutonium" so that you may sagely wuffle on about the PLUTONIUM ATOM TOTALITY [iw.net] during the down time when you're not ferreting out Exxon shills.
              • (Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday October 11 2014, @12:55PM

                by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday October 11 2014, @12:55PM (#104753) Journal
                As an aside, I think it's absurd to demand that I reveal whether I'm an oil shill or not. First, it doesn't distinguish between the states of being or not being a shill since either I'm not a shill or I'm being paid to act like I'm not a shill. The answers are more or less the same either way.

                Second, such a demand ignores the practical side of blogging propaganda. What exactly does an oil company gain by shilling on Soylent News? Sway the hearts and minds of perhaps a few hundred basement dwellers? Maybe some weird SEO angle? I don't see the value.

                And how much are they going to pay to maintain an SN account which probably already has a few hundred posts to it, most in completely irrelevant areas? Even if they're paying US minimum wage, that's hundreds to perhaps a few thousands of dollars for yet another flaming blowhard on the internet. Again, I don't see the value when such effort would be better spent trolling news sites and more popular blogs.
      • (Score: 2) by tathra on Friday October 10 2014, @11:29PM

        by tathra (3367) on Friday October 10 2014, @11:29PM (#104648)

        denialists don't use well thought-out or persuasive arguments, they simply repeat the same crap thats been torn apart repeatedly. a lot of evidence for AGW already exists, but that doesn't mean that everything blamed on AGW is actually a result of it. this may or may not support it, but don't simply call everyone who says it doesn't a denialist until its actually been proven that is a result of AGW.

        science depends on skepticism, but skepticism isn't the same thing as denialism. skeptics ask for more evidence, while denialists say the evidence doesn't exist and shift goalposts when they're forced to.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 11 2014, @06:32AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 11 2014, @06:32AM (#104703)

          skepticism isn't the same thing as denialism

          ...or, as Daniel Patrick Moynihan said:
          "You are entitled to your own opinion, but you are not entitled to your own facts."

          Anyone who has seen video of 2 mature male marine mammals fighting for dominance knows that any pup who happens to get in the way can get crushed.
          It happens all the time on beaches.
          A mom having a nice quiet place for to give birth and to park her kid while he's putting on some weight is nice.

          Having a platform where you can rest up after hunting--without having to swim 10 miles to dry land--makes life a lot less stressful.

          I found this item about the Antarctic:[1] [googleusercontent.com] (orig) Page 3 of the PDF [nerc.ac.uk]
          The Southern Ocean has an area of 35 million [sq km] and is covered by 60% sea ice in winter and 20% during the summer
          [...]
          There are many regions where large volumes of sea ice also persist into the summer months

          If someone can say that isn't true for the other polar region and why that is, I would be interested in that.

          [1] I have substituted a hyphen in that name everywhere a %20 appears in the original.
          Don't you just hate fuckwits who put "spaces" in filenames?

          -- gewg_

  • (Score: 1) by curunir_wolf on Friday October 10 2014, @09:04PM

    by curunir_wolf (4772) on Friday October 10 2014, @09:04PM (#104608)

    The walruses are telling us what the polar bears have told us and what many indigenous people have told us in the high Arctic...

    Well the walrus population is fine, correctly done studies tell us that the polar bear population is increasing, and I don't speak Inuit, but I hear a lot of people in colder climes dealing with even colder winters for the last couple of years. So I think Margaret is just telling us what she wants to say, not what the entities that can't speak for themselves are saying.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 10 2014, @11:37PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 10 2014, @11:37PM (#104650)

    > 35,000 Walruses On One Beach

    The inspiration for Kim Kardashian's new perfume.