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posted by LaminatorX on Monday October 20 2014, @06:54PM   Printer-friendly
from the dark-matters dept.

Over at Centauri Dreams is a piece by Andrew LePage on the questions over exoplanets around Centauri B, on the second anniversary of a (possible) detection.

Alpha Centauri (or α Centauri, if you prefer) is a binary star system, 4.37 light years from the Sun, and the closest star system to the Solar System. "Alpha Centauri A" is the primary star, "Alpha Centauri B" is the (slightly smaller) companion, and a planet, known as Alpha Centauri Bb was detected in October 2012 using data from the HARPS spectrograph.

However there is still some scepticism about about the the data and techniques used to establish the existence of Alpha Centauri Bb, and the Centauri Dreams article goes into detail about the background of the search, the findings to date and the current efforts.

While this planet, designated α Centauri Bb, was hardly the Earth-like planet for which interstellar travel enthusiasts had been waiting so long, its presence demonstrated that the closest star system to us harbored at least one planet and held the promise of more to be discovered. But two years after this momentous announcement, many questions still remain and this important discovery has yet to be independently confirmed.

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"Earth-Like" Exoplanet Found in Habitable Zone of Proxima Centauri 26 comments

Astronomers have reportedly discovered an Earth-like exoplanet in the habitable zone of Proxima Centauri, one of the closest stars to our Sun. However, the claim is based on an anonymous source who is said to have leaked the news ahead of an announcement by the European Southern Observatory:

[In] what may prove to be the most exciting find to date, the German weekly Der Spiegel [translation] announced recently that astronomers have discovered an Earth-like planet orbiting Proxima Centauri, just 4.25 light-years away. Yes, in what is an apparent trifecta, this newly-discovered exoplanet is Earth-like, orbits within it's sun's habitable zone, and is within our reach. But is this too good to be true? [...] Citing anonymous sources, the magazine stated:

The still nameless planet is believed to be Earth-like and orbits at a distance to Proxima Centauri that could allow it to have liquid water on its surface — an important requirement for the emergence of life. Never before have scientists discovered a second Earth that is so close by.

In addition, they claim that the discovery was made by the European Southern Observatory (ESO) using the La Silla Observatory's reflecting telescope. Coincidentally, it was this same observatory that announced the discovery of Alpha Centauri Bb back in 2012, which was also declared to be "the closest exoplanet to Earth". Unfortunately, subsequent analysis cast doubt on its existence, claiming it was a spurious artifact of the data analysis.

However, according to Der Spiegel's unnamed source – whom they claim was involved with the La Silla team that made the find – this latest discovery is the real deal, and was the result of intensive work. "Finding small celestial bodies is a lot of hard work," the source was quoted as saying. "We were moving at the technically feasible limit of measurement." The article goes on to state that the European Southern Observatory (ESO) will be announcing the finding at the end of August. But according to numerous sources, in response to a request for comment by AFP, ESO spokesman Richard Hook refused to confirm or deny the discovery of an exoplanet around Proxima Centauri.

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  • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Monday October 20 2014, @07:21PM

    by tangomargarine (667) on Monday October 20 2014, @07:21PM (#107929)
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    "Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 21 2014, @02:06PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 21 2014, @02:06PM (#108230)

      What a great game, perhaps the greatest of them all.

  • (Score: 2) by aristarchus on Monday October 20 2014, @08:01PM

    by aristarchus (2645) on Monday October 20 2014, @08:01PM (#107951) Journal

    How big is this alleged exoplanet? About the size of a bb, you say? Wait a minute, is this just coincidence, or is someone pulling our leg? Wait, here is a citation by Stronzo Bestiale [parolacce.org]

  • (Score: 2) by VLM on Monday October 20 2014, @09:33PM

    by VLM (445) on Monday October 20 2014, @09:33PM (#107985)

    many questions still remain and this important discovery has yet to be independently confirmed.

    Well that settles it, I guess we're going to have to send a probe.

    (hey any excuse for that is a good excuse)

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 20 2014, @09:39PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 20 2014, @09:39PM (#107990)

      (hey any excuse for that is a good excuse)

      Since when you need an excuse for guessing?

      • (Score: 2) by VLM on Monday October 20 2014, @09:46PM

        by VLM (445) on Monday October 20 2014, @09:46PM (#107992)

        I needed the excuse for not pulling off a joke about redirecting the probe originally aimed at Uranus to planet goatse orbiting star DD or whatever but I couldn't quite make it work. So I needed an excuse, you know, we'll do it for science and stuff.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 21 2014, @12:46AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 21 2014, @12:46AM (#108042)

      There are hundreds of stars less than 3 times the distance of Alpha Centauri. At least one of them should have a decent planetary system. We should just wait longer to get more interesting data.

  • (Score: 3, Informative) by takyon on Tuesday October 21 2014, @01:02AM

    by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Tuesday October 21 2014, @01:02AM (#108044) Journal

    ATLAST: The Gargantuan Telescope Designed to Find Life on Other Planets [theatlantic.com]

    If I assume that every single star has a planet around and that it's in exactly the right place, then I won't need to look at very many to have a good chance of finding life. With a 4-meter telescope, you can look at 10 systems, the 10 closest systems, in this way (the Hubble has a 2.4-meter mirror and the James Webb Space Telescope will have a 6-meter mirror). If I have an 8-meter mirror, I can observe hundreds of star systems in this way, and if I have a 16-meter mirror I can observe thousands. Those may sound like pretty big numbers, but remember in this scenario I'm assuming that there's an Earth in just the right place around every one of these stars. But we're not sure how many stars have a planet in just the right place, and we obviously don't know how many of those planets have an atmosphere with life in it. Kepler is giving us a handle on the first unknown, and it's looking like the answer is 0.1. It's looking like one in ten stars might have a planet in the habitable zone.

    So now let's say I build my 4-meter telescope. That 1 in 10 chance that only gives me one or two habitable planets to look at, which isn't a very big sample size. Certainly not big enough to tell is whether we're alone or not. And so the question becomes how big do you need your sample size to be? From our perspective, the answer is about a thousand. If there's no life in the closest thousand stars, there's a good probability that we're pretty much alone. And that means I need a 16-meter telescope.

    NASA Team Lays Plans to Observe New Worlds [nasa.gov]

    For now, however, the team is studying the viability of a 33-foot (10-meter) glass or carbon-fiber segmented mirror, which would give the telescope a larger light-gathering surface, but still fit inside the fairing of an existing launch vehicle. Currently, the team is baselining the Delta-IV Heavy launch vehicle because it offers the largest mass-to-orbit capability.

    “This gives seventeen times greater light-gathering capability than Hubble’s mirror,” added Carl Stahle, a Goddard engineer who is leading the team evaluating the technologies needed to pull off the ATLAST mission. The resulting technology plans would show the NRC that NASA has identified technology requirements and risks, which the agency is maturing now.

    In addition to building a larger segmented primary mirror, which, like the Webb telescope’s mirror, would fold up for launch and then deploy in space, mission planners would have to fine-tune techniques to align the mirror segments and assure stability. One of the big technical challenges for exoplanet imaging and spectroscopy is building a very stable observatory, Stahle said. ATLAST would require the wavefront error to be stable to 10 picometers for 10 minutes, a factor of 1,000 better than the Webb telescope’s stability requirements.

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  • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 21 2014, @07:22AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 21 2014, @07:22AM (#108134)

    According to Wikipedia, the orbital period of Alpha Centauri Bb, that is the length of its year, is about 3.2 earth days. That is, it has about two anniversaries per week.

    In two earth years, it therefore has 228 anniversaries.