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posted by martyb on Friday October 31 2014, @12:33AM   Printer-friendly
from the watch-those-data-caps dept.

By Jessica Rosenworcel, Commissioner, FCC.

The U.S. leads the world in 4G wireless deployment. In fact, while we are home to less than five percent of the globe’s population, we have nearly half of all 4G subscriptions worldwide.

So far, so good. But if we want our wireless future to be bold, we need to do more than rest on our 4G laurels. Because efforts to develop the next generation of wireless technology are already under way. In short, the race to 5G is on.

I can see this clearly from where I sit at the Federal Communications Commission. The world’s wireless economies are busy planning for 5G service, with speeds ranging from one to 10 gigabits per second. South Korea and Japan have plans to deploy 5G services by the time they host the Olympics in 2018 and 2020, respectively. The European Commission has committed to support 5G research with South Korea. In China, three of the nation’s ministries have jointly established a group to promote the development of 5G technologies. There is no need for the U.S. to stay stuck in the starting gate. We can build on our 4G success — if we get going right now.

http://recode.net/2014/10/27/the-race-to-5g-is-on/

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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by meisterister on Friday October 31 2014, @12:52AM

    by meisterister (949) on Friday October 31 2014, @12:52AM (#111749) Journal

    I for one could not care less if I had 1 megabit or 100 gigabits on my phone when it's capped as horribly as it is. How about we see a gigabyte race instead of a gigabit race...

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    • (Score: 2) by Nerdfest on Friday October 31 2014, @03:44AM

      by Nerdfest (80) on Friday October 31 2014, @03:44AM (#111782)

      Capped, throttled, and probably moving towards 'fast lanes' for big providers. I'd rather have a neutral backbone than move another step towards having the internet fall further under the control of a few corporations.

    • (Score: 2) by davester666 on Friday October 31 2014, @04:48AM

      by davester666 (155) on Friday October 31 2014, @04:48AM (#111791)

      I'm pretty sure the big mobile providers are busy trying to figure out how to market the current network they have, with minor tweaks, as being 5G.

      Just like they did last time transitioning from 3G to 4G.

      • (Score: 3, Interesting) by frojack on Friday October 31 2014, @05:59AM

        by frojack (1554) on Friday October 31 2014, @05:59AM (#111800) Journal

        Tweak? They don't need no stinking tweaks. They will just add some imaginary feature and CALL it 5G.

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  • (Score: 2, Informative) by Thesis on Friday October 31 2014, @01:45AM

    by Thesis (524) on Friday October 31 2014, @01:45AM (#111765)

    I bet money that in the US, carries will simply do minor upgrades, if any, and call it 5G. This is exactly what happened with 4G. US carriers used the terms as PR spin, rather than follow the standards, from what I gather.

    http://money.cnn.com/2010/12/01/technology/4g_myth/ [cnn.com]

    http://www.cnet.com/news/is-the-at-t-iphone-4s-a-4g-phone-or-not/ [cnet.com]

    • (Score: 1) by willoughby on Friday October 31 2014, @08:52AM

      by willoughby (4742) on Friday October 31 2014, @08:52AM (#111811)

      Yep. I came here to say the same thing. I remember when my ATT iPhone 4S went from "3G" to "4G" (as indicated on the status bar) after an OS update.

    • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Friday October 31 2014, @09:33AM

      by FatPhil (863) <reversethis-{if.fdsa} {ta} {tnelyos-cp}> on Friday October 31 2014, @09:33AM (#111815) Homepage
      If Apple's devices show "4G" in their network indicator, rather than, say , "3.5G", which is what everyone more honest has been calling the HSPA extensions, then Apple are as culpable as the operators in this deceipt.

      And according to that CNET article they do, so they are.
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    • (Score: 2) by Arik on Friday October 31 2014, @03:27PM

      by Arik (4543) on Friday October 31 2014, @03:27PM (#111932) Journal
      It's nothing but lies and fraud anyway. They advertise 4g but no one actually offers it. And some sources are indicating they still wont offer real 4g even when they call it 5g. Plus of course regardless of the actual throughput they will cap and throttle you anyway.

      And people in third world countries will still be getting better service for less.
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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 31 2014, @01:52AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 31 2014, @01:52AM (#111766)

    They will turn the bandwidth knob on the equipment they already have from 1 --> 1.5 and bam...5G.

    Then charge everyone more money.

  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Buck Feta on Friday October 31 2014, @01:57AM

    by Buck Feta (958) on Friday October 31 2014, @01:57AM (#111768) Journal

    I'm still looking for a razor with 9 blades, because my 8 blade razor sucks.

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  • (Score: 1) by axsdenied on Friday October 31 2014, @03:02AM

    by axsdenied (384) on Friday October 31 2014, @03:02AM (#111778)

    May as well skip 5G and call it 6G... it will sell better

    • (Score: 2) by LoRdTAW on Friday October 31 2014, @06:28PM

      by LoRdTAW (3755) on Friday October 31 2014, @06:28PM (#111982) Journal

      It's better if we skip straight to 10G. I will fit in better with:
      Windows 10
      OS X
      10 Gig Ethernet
      Base 10
      Metric system
      etc.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 31 2014, @04:43AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 31 2014, @04:43AM (#111790)
    So they're adding 1 gig to my data cap? Nice.
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 31 2014, @11:39AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 31 2014, @11:39AM (#111835)

      No, the number means how many times they are overselling their capacity.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 31 2014, @08:14AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 31 2014, @08:14AM (#111806)

    The U.S. leads the world in 4G wireless deployment.

    It all depends how you look at the figures. Only about 20% of the US population has a 4G subscription (same as Japan) whereas South Korea has about 60% of its population using 4G.

    IMHO, it seems more rational to look at it on a per capita basis, just like GDP, in which case South Korea leads the pack and will keep doing so since they already preparing the next step (the *real* 5G, not a marketing stunt a la 4G in the US)

    http://www.bloomberg.com/slideshow/2013-09-19/countries-with-the-most-4g-mobile-users.html [bloomberg.com]

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 31 2014, @11:46AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 31 2014, @11:46AM (#111838)

      Well, I got a nice list from that page by simply disabling the style. Here it is:

      Top 10 Nations
      10. Philippines
      9. Russia
      8. Germany
      7. United Kingdom
      6. Canada
      5. Sweden
      4. United States
      3. Australia
      2. Japan
      1. South Korea

    • (Score: 2) by HiThere on Friday October 31 2014, @07:03PM

      by HiThere (866) Subscriber Badge on Friday October 31 2014, @07:03PM (#112003) Journal

      Is 4G actually even offered by any US carrier? I don't mean the name, I mean the standard. You can't can actual usage unless the service is offered.

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  • (Score: 2) by Fnord666 on Friday October 31 2014, @11:39AM

    by Fnord666 (652) on Friday October 31 2014, @11:39AM (#111834) Homepage
    Does a claim about 4G subscriptions mean subscribers that have 4G capable phones, subscribe to a carrier that provides 4G connectivity in at least one location, or what? The percentage of 4G subscribers doesn't mean doodly squat if those subscribers don't actually have access to 4G connectivity.
  • (Score: 2) by hamsterdan on Friday October 31 2014, @02:17PM

    by hamsterdan (2829) on Friday October 31 2014, @02:17PM (#111910)

    North America leading the world in telecoms? please... Before going to 5G, can we have reasonable data caps? I know telecoms also are TV providers and are afraid of Netflix, but the caps we have are ridiculous (more so in Canada where 60GB is considered a lot for residential service). Give me TV, Internet, land line and cell phone for the same price as in european countries (about the same as only one service here), and we'll talk. Paying 75$/month just so I can watch Netflix without busting my caps is totally absurd.

    • (Score: 2) by Snow on Friday October 31 2014, @06:34PM

      by Snow (1601) on Friday October 31 2014, @06:34PM (#111990) Journal

      I'm in canada and my data cap is 250GB (Shaw). Telus is pretty much the same.

      Let me guess you are on Rogers/Bell?

      • (Score: 2) by hamsterdan on Friday October 31 2014, @09:26PM

        by hamsterdan (2829) on Friday October 31 2014, @09:26PM (#112060)

        Was on Videotron (Quebec). Quotas are more reasonable in other provinces.