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posted by LaminatorX on Tuesday November 25 2014, @10:14PM   Printer-friendly
from the mobile-home dept.

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2014-11/caos-ssr112114.php
Abstract: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1055790314003819

A new genetic sequencing technique has found that turtles are not as closely related to lizards and snakes as previously thought; and instead have a closer relationship with birds, crocodiles and dinosaurs.

A team of scientists, including researchers from the California Academy of Sciences, has reconstructed a detailed "tree of life" for turtles. The specifics of how turtles are related--to one another, to other reptiles, and even to dinosaurs--have been hotly debated for decades. Next generation sequencing technologies in Academy labs have generated unprecedented amounts of genetic information for a thrilling new look at turtles' evolutionary history. These high-tech lab methods revolutionize the way scientists explore species origins and evolutionary relationships, and provide a strong foundation for future looks into Earth's fossil record.

Research results, appearing in Molecular Phylogenetics and Evolution, describe how a new genetic sequencing technique called Ultra Conserved Elements (UCE) reveal turtles' closest relatives across the animal kingdom. The new genetic tree uses an enormous amount of data to refute the notion that turtles are most closely related to lizards and snakes. Instead, authors place turtles in the newly named group "Archelosauria" with their closest relatives: birds, crocodiles, and dinosaurs. Scientists suspect the new group will be the largest group of vertebrates to ever receive a new scientific name.

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  • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 25 2014, @10:37PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 25 2014, @10:37PM (#119945)

    Turtles: "Happy Together"

    Birds: "Mr. Tambourine Man"

    Dinosaurs: "Get It On (Bang a gong)" (T-Rex)

    Lizards: "Light My Fire" (Jim Morrison = lizard king)

    I agree, the Turtles are closer to the Birds than to either the other two.

    • (Score: 2) by Jeremiah Cornelius on Tuesday November 25 2014, @10:55PM

      by Jeremiah Cornelius (2785) on Tuesday November 25 2014, @10:55PM (#119954) Journal

      Flying Lizards: "Money (That's What I Want)"
      Barrett Strong: "Money (That's What I Want)"
      The Beatles: "Money (That's What I Want)"

      I dunno, man.

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  • (Score: 2) by Jeremiah Cornelius on Tuesday November 25 2014, @10:58PM

    by Jeremiah Cornelius (2785) on Tuesday November 25 2014, @10:58PM (#119956) Journal

    Ankylosaurus

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 26 2014, @02:06AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 26 2014, @02:06AM (#120050)

      Jedi Anakin and Jedi Rex were running along the streets of Coruscant when Darth Tyrannus spotted them and gave chase.

      Anakin shouted "Tyrannus saw us, Rex!"

  • (Score: 1) by Pino P on Wednesday November 26 2014, @12:34AM

    by Pino P (4721) on Wednesday November 26 2014, @12:34AM (#120013) Journal

    Compare plush turtle [thecollectorzone.com] to plush dinosaur [uwm.edu]. Similar eyes, similar snout, and they both even have a shell.

  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 26 2014, @02:54AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 26 2014, @02:54AM (#120059)

    Molecular studies showed that turtles were closer to archosaurs than lepidosaurs a while ago. Check Timetree.org. This is not a new finding.

    Using UCEs for phylogeny is also pretty bizarre.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 26 2014, @03:45AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 26 2014, @03:45AM (#120077)

    Blue-throated Hummingbird
    Resting heart rate: 250 beats per minute
    Maximum heart rate: 1260 beats per minute
    Lifespan: 5 years

    Galapagos Tortoise
    Resting heart rate: 6 beats per minute
    Lifespan: over 100 years (some say up to 200 years)

    These creatures are related? Heh.
    (BTW, you share 40 percent of your DNA with a banana.)

    -- gewg_

    • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Wednesday November 26 2014, @03:54AM

      by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday November 26 2014, @03:54AM (#120082) Journal

      (BTW, you share 40 percent of your DNA with a banana.)

      Vehemently, I am not!!!
      (but it may be that you are watching too much porn)

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    • (Score: 2) by martyb on Wednesday November 26 2014, @03:56AM

      by martyb (76) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday November 26 2014, @03:56AM (#120083) Journal

      Blue-throated Hummingbird
      Resting heart rate: 250 beats per minute
      Maximum heart rate: 1260 beats per minute
      Lifespan: 5 years

      Galapagos Tortoise
      Resting heart rate: 6 beats per minute
      Lifespan: over 100 years (some say up to 200 years)

      These creatures are related? Heh.

      /me tries to imagine a Galapagos Tortoise that could fly: flap... wait... wait... wait... wait... wait... flap... wait... wait... wait... crash!
      Lifespan while airborne: about 10 seconds. :/

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    • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Wednesday November 26 2014, @05:28PM

      by Gaaark (41) on Wednesday November 26 2014, @05:28PM (#120325) Journal

      And i share 100% of my banana with my wife. :)

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