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posted by janrinok on Thursday December 18 2014, @07:22PM   Printer-friendly
from the looking-under-bridges dept.

The MIT Technology Review has an article up on Swedish journalists and researchers who expose internet trolls.

Back at the Troll Hunter office, a whiteboard organized Aschberg’s agenda. Dossiers on other trolls were tacked up in two rows: a pair of teens who anonymously slander their high school classmates on Instagram, a politician who runs a racist website, a male law student who stole the identity of a young woman to entice another man into an online relationship. In a sign of the issue’s resonance in Sweden, a pithy neologism has been coined to encompass all these forms of online nastiness: näthat (“Net hate”). Troll Hunter, which has become a minor hit for its brash tackling of näthat, is currently filming its second season.

This article covers the television show Trolljägarna (Troll Hunter), and the activities of a group of volunteer researchers called Researchgruppen (Research Group) in tracking and exposing internet trolls and touches on the privacy issues and potential backlash from other groups of this kind of work.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 18 2014, @07:30PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 18 2014, @07:30PM (#127233)

    This show sounds like MTV's Catfish for a non-American audience. A little more broad, a little less hokey.

  • (Score: 2) by ikanreed on Thursday December 18 2014, @07:46PM

    by ikanreed (3164) Subscriber Badge on Thursday December 18 2014, @07:46PM (#127240) Journal

    I'm not normally one for "look at these horrible humans for you to smugly feel superior to" reality shows as a genre, but I'm deathly curious what the fuck is wrong with some people on the internet. You see so many awful people, you have to wonder.

    • (Score: 2) by dyingtolive on Thursday December 18 2014, @07:58PM

      by dyingtolive (952) on Thursday December 18 2014, @07:58PM (#127243)

      Not only that, but there's a really impressive amount of time put in to it. I mean, I get shit all over another human being because you're in a bad mood and it might cheer you up, but to troll to the time consuming extent that a lot of people do borders on some sort of genuinely frightening... I don't even know what.

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      • (Score: 2) by dyingtolive on Thursday December 18 2014, @08:00PM

        by dyingtolive (952) on Thursday December 18 2014, @08:00PM (#127245)

        s/shit/the idea of shitting/g

        I... I don't actually get shit all over human beings.

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      • (Score: 2) by ikanreed on Thursday December 18 2014, @08:09PM

        by ikanreed (3164) Subscriber Badge on Thursday December 18 2014, @08:09PM (#127246) Journal

        The common allegation is, of course, it's mostly teenagers with too much free time.

        But as the article describes, a lot of these people are adults, some are even prominent politicians.

        • (Score: 0, Troll) by Ethanol-fueled on Thursday December 18 2014, @08:42PM

          by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Thursday December 18 2014, @08:42PM (#127254) Homepage

          Trolling is only a natural form of pushback caused by a society which eschews honesty in place of phoney modesty. Sure, some trolling is pathological, but I wouldn't call it an issue of public health or safety. Bullying has always existed in various forms, and is a problem with very human nature so it won't be going away anytime soon.

          Regarding the so-called "Troll-hunters," they kinda remind of me of the people from Perverted Justice, totally maladjusted and angry wrecks and losers who are very obviously compensating for their lack of success at life if not their reaction-formation self-hatred for their feeling the same very urges. Angry losers displacing their aggression on others under the guise of righteousness.

          Although in this case it's slightly different. Swedish men, after all, are known for being legendary effeminate cuckolds and sit idly by and watch as their flawless women are being swept of their feet by African immigrants.

          You can hunt your mouth on my fat brown dick, Troll-hunter Nancy-Boys!

          • (Score: 3, Insightful) by ikanreed on Thursday December 18 2014, @08:51PM

            by ikanreed (3164) Subscriber Badge on Thursday December 18 2014, @08:51PM (#127258) Journal

            I'm glad you're the only racist shithead whose mindless bile I have to read on this site. It's much better than on slashdot.

            If I see a racist shithead saying stupid shit, I can be 100% confident I know exactly who the shithead is.

            • (Score: 2) by dyingtolive on Thursday December 18 2014, @08:54PM

              by dyingtolive (952) on Thursday December 18 2014, @08:54PM (#127260)

              I mean, it's his normal schtick, but it actually is somewhat on topic this time.

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              • (Score: 0, Troll) by Ethanol-fueled on Thursday December 18 2014, @09:45PM

                by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Thursday December 18 2014, @09:45PM (#127280) Homepage

                I rest my case, actually reading the article because I was curious to see just why the so-called "racist" politicians were being labeled "racist."

                Lo and behold, they were being called "racist" for saying that Muslim immigrants are "like Locusts." Just as in Fight Club, it happened to be that it was on the tip of everybody's tongue even though the participants didn't mention it publicly. Maybe Muslim immigrants are the problem? The same technique is being used by American liberals, that is, to label everybody who doesn't agree with amnesty and unfettered illegal immigration "racist" no matter how professionally the anti-immigration argument was delivered.

                You whiny bed-witting thumb-sucking folks had best shut your itchy mouths with using the word "racist," hence you dilute its meaning and reduce its impact to nothingness while insulting the folks like the Freedom Riders [wikipedia.org] who were on the receiving end of real racism like beatings and being set on fire.

                As for me, I'm going to fuck a Mexican woman tomorrow night. You can suck my racist cock, you whiny little sissies! Brown Menace Forever!

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 18 2014, @09:48PM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 18 2014, @09:48PM (#127281)

                  Classy, as always.

                • (Score: 1) by zugedneb on Thursday December 18 2014, @10:12PM

                  by zugedneb (4556) on Thursday December 18 2014, @10:12PM (#127290)

                  This is actually true... (I have said in many comments that I live in Sweden)
                  Both about "racist" politicians and about "superior" swedish woman...

                  Every time has it's own trends and rewards... In this time and age, you can't speak bad about the muslims and it is a reward in it self to call someone a racist, for any shady reason.
                  The one named racist has lost by default, and the one naming racist stands in the light by default :D

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                  old saying: "a troll is a window into the soul of humanity" + also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ajax
                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 18 2014, @10:30PM

                    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 18 2014, @10:30PM (#127295)

                    Xenophobia and misogyny all in one, you must be a real catch.

                    • (Score: 1) by zugedneb on Thursday December 18 2014, @10:39PM

                      by zugedneb (4556) on Thursday December 18 2014, @10:39PM (#127299)

                      what makes u tick?

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                      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 18 2014, @11:07PM

                        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 18 2014, @11:07PM (#127307)

                        I dunno, what makes you a misogynist xenophobe?

                        • (Score: 1) by zugedneb on Thursday December 18 2014, @11:27PM

                          by zugedneb (4556) on Thursday December 18 2014, @11:27PM (#127312)

                          life experience mostly...
                          if I see a pattern, my wisdom says, lets not deny it until it is safe...

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                          old saying: "a troll is a window into the soul of humanity" + also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ajax
                          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 19 2014, @12:44AM

                            by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 19 2014, @12:44AM (#127333)

                            Yeah, that is precisely why I like to say that all bigotry is a problem of bad math.
                            People think that their personal anecdotes are representative.
                            Oddly enough, most such people are smart enough to realize that in any other context a non-random sample size that small can't possibly be accurate. But people love to hate, it is so comforting to have an enemy, someone to look down on. So once someone gets stuck in that rut, it takes enormous strength of character to get out. Typically what they do is start looking for more biased anecdotes to rationalize their bias rather then seek out a better analysis.

                            • (Score: 1) by zugedneb on Friday December 19 2014, @01:36AM

                              by zugedneb (4556) on Friday December 19 2014, @01:36AM (#127341)

                              dude, or miss, whatever... do you realize that we are all products of evolution?
                              we have murdered and raped and pillaged each other for most part of our existence?
                              that people might distrust and dislike too many of others inside the own base has a reason?

                              "But people love to hate, it is so comforting to have an enemy, someone to look down on. So once someone gets stuck in that rut, it takes enormous strength of character to get out."
                              in my soul I am a soldier, not a fucking vampire or sect leader... I can not take a strategy that builds on me fucking around and try to reach/move/touch other with my personality/carisma/whatever seriously...

                              A general advice I can give all who listen: do not be a complicated cunt who needs to be handled by others...
                              Why are not hungarians or russians or polish hated, though they are everywhere? Because the are not compicated cunts...
                              Why are muslims, gypsies, and some other hated? Because they are complicated cunts...
                              Ez?

                              --
                              old saying: "a troll is a window into the soul of humanity" + also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ajax
                              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 19 2014, @02:35AM

                                by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 19 2014, @02:35AM (#127348)

                                Why are not hungarians or russians or polish hated, though they are everywhere? Because the are not compicated cunts...
                                Why are muslims, gypsies, and some other hated? Because they are complicated cunts...

                                Right on cue, looking for more anecdotes because sucking at math is easy, thinking objective is hard.

                                What you don't know is that in other countries all of of those ethnicities are hated by someone.
                                For example, the BNP hate Poles. [worldcrunch.com]

                                At least you can take comfort that your silly little bigotted head has tons of company all over the world, everybody wants to hate somebody.

                                • (Score: 1) by zugedneb on Friday December 19 2014, @04:01AM

                                  by zugedneb (4556) on Friday December 19 2014, @04:01AM (#127376)

                                  "...your silly little bigotted head..."
                                  generally, I consider my activities on forums as a monologue, because very few can catch up with me in the head department...

                                  I gave you two options: take the difficult one, where you have evolutionary psychology and all related topics, or take the easy one where you have more reasons to denigrate me...

                                  as such, this conversation is over, you can not match me

                                  --
                                  old saying: "a troll is a window into the soul of humanity" + also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ajax
                                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 19 2014, @06:07AM

                                    by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 19 2014, @06:07AM (#127393)

                                    > I gave you two options: take the difficult one, where you have evolutionary psychology and all related topics,
                                    > or take the easy one where you have more reasons to denigrate me...

                                    Yes, because referring to people as "complicated cunts" was such scholarly logic.
                                    I'm afraid you denigrated yourself, I just held up the mirror.

                                    > as such, this conversation is over, you can not match me

                                    Indeed, I can not, the depths at which you dwell would cause my brain to implode with the black madness of hate. That your hate only burbles out in drips and drabs is a testament to your strength of ego.

                                    • (Score: 1) by zugedneb on Friday December 19 2014, @07:12AM

                                      by zugedneb (4556) on Friday December 19 2014, @07:12AM (#127415)

                                      "Yes, because referring to people as "complicated cunts" was such scholarly logic."
                                      things are as they are...

                                      But hey, if I am wrong, then we do actually not need the military, police, secret services' and all other security related organisation for our nation/society...
                                      We will all get along on the power of pure love :D

                                      --
                                      old saying: "a troll is a window into the soul of humanity" + also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ajax
                                      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 19 2014, @01:41PM

                                        by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 19 2014, @01:41PM (#127462)

                                        But hey, if I am wrong, then we do actually not need the military, police, secret services' and all other security related organisation for our nation/society...

                                        Absolutely! All criminality is due to ethnic defectiveness.
                                        Thank you for opening my eyes to the way the real world works!
                                        The inside of your head must be hell.

                                        • (Score: 1) by zugedneb on Friday December 19 2014, @05:38PM

                                          by zugedneb (4556) on Friday December 19 2014, @05:38PM (#127532)

                                          Have you read lately the articles about chimps taking over territory, patrolling, and killing "eachother"?
                                          So do you think that chimps are all "we" from their perspective? Yo bro lets share some ganja?
                                          What do you think the history of human beings are? All flowers?
                                          We do not like eachother, but with great intellectual effort we can stand eachother...

                                          Also, what I try to understand in this conversation is the fact that you are trying to pick on someone who is not your enemy, but just points out things to you that you do not like...
                                          Funny thing is, in sweden there are lots of people like this.
                                          We talk about arabs and them cutting up womans genitals, psychos, domestic violence, cultural violence...
                                          And as we progress in the talk, it strikes me that they hate me, a hard but rather nonviolent, white, engineers, who, by and large, is the most informative person these haters could hate met...

                                          So why, really, do you keep picking on me? If you look at the history of humanity, is there something in my statements you find untrue?

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                                          old saying: "a troll is a window into the soul of humanity" + also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ajax
                                          • (Score: 1) by zugedneb on Friday December 19 2014, @05:48PM

                                            by zugedneb (4556) on Friday December 19 2014, @05:48PM (#127535)

                                            "...the most informative person these haters could _have_ met..." would I have written...

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                                            old saying: "a troll is a window into the soul of humanity" + also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ajax
                        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 19 2014, @12:38PM

                          by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 19 2014, @12:38PM (#127452)

                          Exposure to the US Constitution.

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 18 2014, @10:26PM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 18 2014, @10:26PM (#127294)

                  > no matter how professionally the anti-immigration argument was delivered.

                  Because real racism is carried out by ugly thugs, those who dress well and speak with eloquence about charts and graphs have proven themselves immune to the dark pull of xenophobia.

                  > hence you dilute its meaning and reduce its impact to nothingness while insulting the folks like the Freedom Riders who
                  > were on the receiving end of real racism like beatings and being set on fire.

                  And when that was going on there were people just like you ready to excuse the treatment the freedom riders suffered by saying it wasn't racism because they weren't slaves, they were free men on that bus who made a choice to be there. So they had better quit their bitchin lest they dishonor the people like Harriet Tubman who risked their lives to break the law.

                • (Score: 2) by dyingtolive on Friday December 19 2014, @03:59AM

                  by dyingtolive (952) on Friday December 19 2014, @03:59AM (#127373)

                  As you're replying to me, I fear you misunderstand me: I have a hard time getting worked up about racism on the internet. I roll my eyes every time I see the words "white privilege", or really any "privilege" at all. I'm also much more disturbed by "real" racism, like people getting beaten to death by hammers for the color of their skin. I was just pointing out a consistent trend in the subject matter of your posting, and how it is easy to consider it to be trollish. Personally, I find it strange that a group so intent on making sure that everyone is respected in spite of their beliefs or who they are generally appears to viciously hates people who dislike people based upon their beliefs, i.e. your "liberals" against anything perceived as racist.

                  Also, food for thought: There are people out there who would consider the very fact that you're interested in fucking a Mexican woman racist, or that you're sexist bastard for desiring intercourse with a woman at all. Granted, most of them are on Tumblr, but I still think that there is a strong possibility that a large majority of humanity (perhaps including myself) is just utterly insane. But I just keep to myself and write code mostly. I think everyone else has more of a handle on the world beyond that. They certainly have stronger opinions on the matter than I do.

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                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 19 2014, @06:12AM

                    by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 19 2014, @06:12AM (#127394)

                    > I find it strange that a group so intent on making sure that everyone is respected in spite of their
                    > beliefs or who they are generally appears to viciously hates people who dislike people based upon their beliefs

                    Ah, that monument to logic - if you don't tolerate hate, you are intolerant!
                    Such masterful reasoning, in one fell swoop you've proved that anyone who challenges the status is actually a hypocrite.
                    Winning!

                    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 19 2014, @07:09AM

                      by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 19 2014, @07:09AM (#127414)

                      Well, yeah, when "tolerating hate" is short for "tolerating anyone who isn't a progressive/social democrat," as is usually the case with SJWs.

                    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 19 2014, @12:50PM

                      by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 19 2014, @12:50PM (#127454)

                      You're right, you're not capital-I-Intolerant. At the end of the day though, it seems as if, when you say "Ah, that monument to logic - if you don't tolerate hate, you are intolerant!", you're trying to actually suggest that if you're intolerant of hate, you AREN'T intolerant of SOMETHING, specifically.

                      Ever notice make the argument that you are without anger or contempt, similar to how you did?

                      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 19 2014, @01:35PM

                        by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 19 2014, @01:35PM (#127460)

                        Dictionary pedantry isn't insightful. Seeking a defence in technicalities is an admission that the truth of the words is something you can't refute.

                        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 19 2014, @02:00PM

                          by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 19 2014, @02:00PM (#127466)

                          Who's being pedantic? Hate is hate. Whatever the reason you're hating someone, you're still hating them. You're simply creating a division where it is excusable in one way, and not another.

                          I assume the previously aforementioned emotion instilled in retorts is some sort of manifestation of cognitive dissonance.

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 08 2015, @07:19AM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 08 2015, @07:19AM (#132838)

                  let's have a journal entry on you fucking the mexican chick please

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 18 2014, @09:30PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 18 2014, @09:30PM (#127276)

            2/10

          • (Score: 2) by Tork on Thursday December 18 2014, @09:52PM

            by Tork (3914) Subscriber Badge on Thursday December 18 2014, @09:52PM (#127286)
            Society's fault, or do you just ache for attention and found that an easy way to get it is to dole crude slurs?
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    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 18 2014, @08:33PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 18 2014, @08:33PM (#127252)

      In related news, including the obligatory dupe

      Internet Trolls Are Sadists https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=14/04/11/1332215 [soylentnews.org] and

      Study: Internet Trolls are the "Prototypical Everyday Sadists" https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=14/06/22/0355241 [soylentnews.org]

      • (Score: 2) by ikanreed on Thursday December 18 2014, @08:55PM

        by ikanreed (3164) Subscriber Badge on Thursday December 18 2014, @08:55PM (#127261) Journal

        Hmmm, dark tetrad, as well. Same things that predict failed relationships, crime, inability to hold a job. I wonder if we'll ever be able to treat these people.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 19 2014, @03:25PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 19 2014, @03:25PM (#127501)

          This really is well characterized by the stereotypical fat neckbeards living in their mother's basement.

          failed relationships

          Does not being about to start one count?

          crime

          Technically torrenting episodes of My Little Pony counts.

          inability to hold a job

          If you can't haul your fat ass up the stairs to go to an interview.

          and as for the "dark triad"

          Narcissism

          Flexing your e-peen and "pwning newbs" in WoW

          Machiavellianism

          Trolling in general counts, but some people may include pornography in this section

          Psychopathy

          If spending weeks at a time in a basement doesn't count as anti-social behavior, I don't know what does.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 18 2014, @08:58PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 18 2014, @08:58PM (#127263)

      Humans are social creatures, put us in an environment with greatly reduced social pressure to conform to social norms and people go nuts. That's not always bad, we get all kinds of creativity by freeing people from conformity but it is a spectrum and the asshole nature comes out too. You might even be familiar with the stereotype of artistic people being assholes in person, it tends to go hand in hand, its just that on the net you don't have to be a creative genius in order to get away with also being an asshole.

      One thing you can count on is that every one of these "trolls" believes that the people they are targeting absolutely deserves it. That they've constructed some sort of twisted justification that permits the troll to feel like they are righteously defending some value like freedom of expression, truth, their own honor or whatever.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 18 2014, @10:12PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 18 2014, @10:12PM (#127292)

        One thing you can count on is that every one of these "trolls" believes that the people they are targeting absolutely deserves it.

        Most interesting. Care to explain how you know what every one of those "trolls" believes?

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 18 2014, @10:16PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 18 2014, @10:16PM (#127293)

          > Most interesting. Care to explain how you know what every one of those "trolls" believes?

          It is human nature. Nobody ever thinks of themselves as a bad guy. Villains twirling their moustaches is something out of a disney movie, not real life. The absolute best you can hope for is regret after the fact, but even that is pretty rare.

  • (Score: 2) by aristarchus on Thursday December 18 2014, @09:12PM

    by aristarchus (2645) on Thursday December 18 2014, @09:12PM (#127269) Journal

    Wait! Wasn't this a Norwegian movie of 2010? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1740707/ [imdb.com] Except about actual trolls, not online trolls. Something of an endangered species, as I recall. Secret government agency trying to keep them on a secret troll preserve, and having to deal with those that escaped. There is even a bridge, as I recall.

  • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 18 2014, @10:08PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 18 2014, @10:08PM (#127288)

    Doxxing and harassment is ok when its the SJWs doing it.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 19 2014, @12:52AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 19 2014, @12:52AM (#127335)

      > Doxxing and harassment is ok when its the SJWs doing it.

      RTFA, that's exactly the point the article is making.

  • (Score: 1) by zugedneb on Thursday December 18 2014, @10:32PM

    by zugedneb (4556) on Thursday December 18 2014, @10:32PM (#127296)

    "Avpixlat is an influential voice in Sweden’s growing right-wing populist movement, which is driven by a xenophobic panic that Muslim immigrants and Roma are destroying the country. "
    SD, a swedish right party, got 12.68% in the last swedish election...
    Q: Do we have problem with immigrnts in general?
    A: Nonononononono, that 12-13% are fucking morons haters naciz and gas chamber technicians...
    Now, that's not a good or professional approach to any debate...

    The problem is, that when you get exposed as a nazi moron hater by this pure and elite group, you will find out that the laws protecting employees at work are not what they seem to be... And of course, that is why they are anonymous in the first place. That is, to get away from harassment at work, neighbourhood, school... And to keep your children from being harassed by the pure and elite, just because you commit a political crime in their eye...

    I remember a case, google it yourself, where a member of Hyresgästföreningen, an organisation for those who rent (and not own) apartments kicked (or made to resign) a member, just because of his rightwing opinions...
    Now, that's not justice...

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    • (Score: 2) by Arik on Thursday December 18 2014, @11:44PM

      by Arik (4543) on Thursday December 18 2014, @11:44PM (#127318) Journal
      "Now, that's not justice..."

      It's also an old tradition, since Inge Stenkillson at least.
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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Yog-Yogguth on Friday December 19 2014, @12:04AM

    by Yog-Yogguth (1862) Subscriber Badge on Friday December 19 2014, @12:04AM (#127328) Journal

    These are the people who paid other people to hack Disqus so as to supposedly reveal people's identity. They'll usually call themselves the “autonomous left” but anything they think will work as cover for harassing people will do.

    Some of them do as Aschberg and claim to “research” it to connect it to actual people who more than likely are completely random and then confront them with whatever they found objectionable. Aschberg basically admits that it doesn't matter if they are random innocent people because the cause justifies it. Has anyone here ever signed up for Disqus using real identification? Thought not.

    Others use violence. Doesn't matter if it involves kids or anything. No different from Anders Behring Breivik except for the scale of it but they would claim to be enemies.

    They claim to be against racism but are nearly always white, with white friends, in white groups, and with their preference of white ideology (usually some stalinist or trotskyist bullshit). Get to know any of them and you'll discover they're as racist as is possible: everything is about race and they think of non-whites as less than animals in need of protection. If any non-whites chooses to join, support, vote for, represent, be elected on behalf of, or argue in favor of any “racist” (meaning anti-immigration) political parties they'll be screaming their lungs out about “uncle Tom” and “coconuts” and “slave mentality”.

    Last year the Swedish leftist political parties ever so slightly started getting embarrassed about all of this and began to distance themselves from it but not by much. One shouldn't expect anything else: Sweden is a shitty place.

    The likes of Aschberg and his peers are the people who beat up their own sympathizers “by accident” because they “looked like” opponents (whatever the hell that is supposed to mean, they themselves “look like” Nazis judging by their own actions: maybe they should all start wearing brown shirts to make it easier?). Didn't matter that it was a sixteen year old girl on their own side. That's how superficial they are.

    They're fascists. As long as they get to have their kicks they don't care.

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    • (Score: 2) by TK on Friday December 19 2014, @03:29PM

      by TK (2760) on Friday December 19 2014, @03:29PM (#127502)

      In the US, we call them Oreos. [wikipedia.org]

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      The fleas have smaller fleas, upon their backs to bite them, and those fleas have lesser fleas, and so ad infinitum
      • (Score: 2) by Yog-Yogguth on Saturday December 20 2014, @08:40PM

        by Yog-Yogguth (1862) Subscriber Badge on Saturday December 20 2014, @08:40PM (#127820) Journal

        And to get back to reality & sanity one (perhaps surprisingly) has to (partially) quote Clive Barker: “Wherever we're opened, we're red”.

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