Get your bugs ready! LLDB is coming to Windows. "We've spoken in the past about teaching Clang to fully support Windows and be compatible with MSVC. Until now, a big missing piece in this story has been debugging the clang-generated executables. Over the past 6 months, we've started working on making LLDB work well on Windows and support debugging both regular Windows programs and those produced by Clang." This is big news.
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(Score: 2) by TheRaven on Wednesday January 21 2015, @10:07AM
sudo mod me up
(Score: 1) by speps on Wednesday January 21 2015, @02:42PM
Yes, VS has the ability to use external debuggers. Python Tools for Visual Studio for example allows you to debug Python from VS directly, same goes for Unity Tools for Visual Studio (formerly UnityVS). However, creating a new debug engine for VS is tricky, the documentation for it is scarce and samples are too basic.
(Score: 2) by BasilBrush on Thursday January 22 2015, @10:27AM
OS X developers also tend to debug in the IDE (XCode).
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(Score: 2) by TheRaven on Thursday January 22 2015, @10:54AM
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(Score: 2) by BasilBrush on Friday January 23 2015, @03:28PM
Indeed. Within XCode. But no-one does breakpoints or single stepping etc that way. They do it with the GUI. I haven't come across many programmers doing more than the occasional "po" in the command line within XCode. And they'd do that with the GUI also if the GUI supported it.
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(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 21 2015, @11:16AM
The share holders thank you for your efforts...
(Score: 4, Insightful) by PizzaRollPlinkett on Wednesday January 21 2015, @12:01PM
The fundamental thing a summary should do is tell us why we should care. This summary does not even bother to explain what LLDB is. Or why anyone who sees the summary would care that it is available on Windows. I assume it is some sort of database.
Here is a sample summary I made up:
"LLDB, the MySQL fork that implements low-level locking, is now available for Microsoft Windows. Many applications demand low-level locking, a feature not available in most databases, for better performance. The arrival of LLDB for Windows will allow a new class of applications to be written which improve database performance by orders of magnitude. Previously, these applications have only run on Linux. Microsoft has announced support for low-level locking in SQL Server 2018."
Now I made all that up, but the point is that I tell you what LLDB is and why anyone cares that it is available on Windows. Contrast this with the content-free summary which assumes you already know what LLDB is and you already care.
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(Score: 1) by DBCubix on Wednesday January 21 2015, @12:03PM
Much better summary. Thanks!
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 21 2015, @12:26PM
If you read the summary and don't know what Clang is then LLDB isn't for you. Don't recognize MSVC? Then move along.
BTW, you spent more time "crafting" a 0% accurate summary than it would have taken you to look up LLDB on Wikipedia.
If you don't like the quality of the summaries then submit stories yourself. Since you had no clue what Clang or LLDB is you never would have ever read TFA in the first place and therefore never would have submitted this story (with or without your completely false summary).
SN gets better when people spend more time "doing" and less time bitching about what others do or don't do. Me? I submit stories if I think they are relevant to SN and the story isn't already in the queue. Now if you'll excuse me I have to submit a story about the rapper LLDB making it rain through Windows with his new song Clang.
(Score: 2) by hubie on Wednesday January 21 2015, @10:49PM
I believe SN gets better with well written summaries as the OP suggests. If you want to foster good comments, which is a recurring mantra here, then you need to foster decent communication. If someone has to run to Google or click on a link to a Wiki page to figure out if the article is worth reading further, then I think it was a poorly written summary.
And for what it's worth, I do submit stories, but I don't think that should be a requirement to offer constructive criticism.
(Score: 0) by Inops on Wednesday January 21 2015, @12:35PM
Man, I've been using GDB wrong for years...
(Score: 2) by mcgrew on Wednesday January 21 2015, @01:32PM
Indeed; it was an incredibly poor summary. Beware acronyms! I had to google to find out that the article and summary were about a debugger. The "DB" in the name made me think of what I worked with for decades, databases, and I was all set to try it out on my Linux box.
Beware the acronym! Don't be so damned lazy, spell it out. Don't waste my fucking time like that!
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(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 21 2015, @02:21PM
Don't waste my fucking time like that!
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fixed that for ya....