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posted by LaminatorX on Saturday January 31 2015, @07:07PM   Printer-friendly
from the Royal-Fortune dept.

About a month ago, a story was submitted to another site that the Pirate Bay domain name was back online. That story mentioned a timer, which supposedly showed the time since the police raid on the pirate bay servers. I didn't notice at the time, but a more recent check showed this counter was counting down, not up, with a time to reach zero at the end of January. Sometime around a week ago, the waving pirate flag video changed to a graphic of an orange phoenix, and a disabled search box showed up. I've been watching the site since, and now, about 12 hours before the timer was to reach zero, the site is back up, complete with searches.

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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 31 2015, @07:15PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 31 2015, @07:15PM (#139875)

    My Cert Patrol [psyced.org] install gave me an alert that they are using a new SSL certificate - this one is for cloudflare.com. It seems unlikely that Cloudflare will stand up to the MAFIAA. I'll be impressed if it is still up next saturday.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 01 2015, @01:50AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 01 2015, @01:50AM (#139950)

      It is what 4chan uses. If that wretched hive of scum and villainy can survive, piratebay may too.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 01 2015, @01:54AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 01 2015, @01:54AM (#139953)

        4chan has a DMCA policy, TPB does not.

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by sigma on Sunday February 01 2015, @07:55AM

      by sigma (1225) on Sunday February 01 2015, @07:55AM (#140003)

      It appears that they're IP logging every visitor to the new TPB. Beware, it's likely a honeypot.

      • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 01 2015, @10:04AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 01 2015, @10:04AM (#140008)

        > It appears that they're IP logging every visitor to the new TPB.

        How would you even know that?
        If you are referring to some 3rd party web-bug or the like, the original piratebay was loaded with ads served by a ton of 3rd party ad networks.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 31 2015, @09:57PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 31 2015, @09:57PM (#139902)

    And...It's Down Again

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by Snotnose on Saturday January 31 2015, @10:39PM

      by Snotnose (1623) on Saturday January 31 2015, @10:39PM (#139907)

      Working fine for me.

      --
      When the dust settled America realized it was saved by a porn star.
    • (Score: 1) by cbiltcliffe on Saturday January 31 2015, @11:19PM

      by cbiltcliffe (1659) on Saturday January 31 2015, @11:19PM (#139918)

      And...It's Down Again

      Not by my testing. Although I've seen Cloudflare errors on several sites recently, so it could be that cloudflare is having issues, rather than TPB itself.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 01 2015, @03:44PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 01 2015, @03:44PM (#140064)

      I'm not able to access it either. Says its "Unable to complete secure transaction. (Fatal error 40 from server)".

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by BsAtHome on Saturday January 31 2015, @10:10PM

    by BsAtHome (889) on Saturday January 31 2015, @10:10PM (#139904)

    I'd love to see the media sales figures for the time up to the takedown and afterwards. Should be an interesting read that could shed some light into whether someone is stepping on their own sales...

    • (Score: 5, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 31 2015, @11:19PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 31 2015, @11:19PM (#139917)

      Not exactly what you asked for:

      Unprecedented Music Piracy Collapse Fails to Boost Revenues [torrentfreak.com]

      A survey carried out by music industry group IFPI has revealed that just 4% of Norwegians under 30 are now using illegal file-sharing platforms to obtain music, down from 70% in 2009. But while that achievement is unprecedented, overall music industry revenues have remained static.
      ...

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 01 2015, @12:22AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 01 2015, @12:22AM (#139930)

        “Hopefully this will also involve a better economy for several Norwegian artists and record companies.”

        https://torrentfreak.com/unprecedented-music-piracy-collapse-fails-to-boost-revenues-150126/ [torrentfreak.com]

        and why is it 'hopeful' that (certain corrupt) 'record companies' do well. Why is there anything wrong with people simply choosing not to buy anything from record companies and, instead, choosing to buy content directly from artists. Or, better yet, choosing to support more reasonably and permissibly licensed content. If infringement were to disappear but record companies were also to lose all their revenue due to everyone not wanting to give them anything is that necessarily a 'problem' that needs the government to address.

        • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 01 2015, @12:27AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 01 2015, @12:27AM (#139931)

          Oh, this is hilarious

          “All of us who work with this every day want a healthy and fair economy in our industry. It is our main task in the exciting years ahead of us.”

          https://torrentfreak.com/unprecedented-music-piracy-collapse-fails-to-boost-revenues-150126/ [torrentfreak.com]

          HAH, as if. They destroy the public domain through undemocratically buying politicians and then they have the nerve to say they want a 'fair' economy in their industry? That's a lie. They want to control distribution and have all the copy protections assigned to them so that they can make all their money with minimal work on their part at the expense of artists and the public. They want to buy laws to force everyone else to fund and support their selfish agenda. These gangsters don't care at all about fairness and for them to speak on the matter is a joke.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 01 2015, @12:31AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 01 2015, @12:31AM (#139932)

            Sorry the link to that last post was

            http://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/piracy-virtually-eliminated-norway/ [musicbusinessworldwide.com]

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 01 2015, @07:11AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 01 2015, @07:11AM (#140001)

            Since p2p networks have gone I no longer buy music. Or.many movies. I have a GB of music, why buy more. Someone bought a lady gaga cd for me, which I really liked. I would probably buy more but for $20 to $30 I just can't be bothered.

            I am getting older. What I would really like is good quality dvd rips of english and japanese movies and series with decent subtitles.

            I hate DVD DRM. I have tossed lots now. And CDs. Scratched. Broken. Kiddied. I have lots of hdd space.

            Will no one, besides Humble Bundle, take my money?

      • (Score: 2) by Dunbal on Sunday February 01 2015, @12:33AM

        by Dunbal (3515) on Sunday February 01 2015, @12:33AM (#139933)

        That's pretty simple to explain. The music is still crap and no one wants to buy it.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 01 2015, @01:24AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 01 2015, @01:24AM (#139943)

        70% to 4%? That sounds like complete and utter nonsense. Both numbers (70% and 4%) were probably collected using highly unscientific methods.

        • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 01 2015, @01:52AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 01 2015, @01:52AM (#139952)

          The kids don't download anymore. They stream and the streams are legal, but often cost the same as piracy.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 01 2015, @10:58PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 01 2015, @10:58PM (#140143)

            Capture the stream [google.com]

            "The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems will slip through your fingers."
            Media companies (middlemen) are obsolete.

            -- gewg_

  • (Score: 3, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 01 2015, @01:51AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 01 2015, @01:51AM (#139951)

    This incident still hasn't been sorted out yet [torrentfreak.com]

    In the end there is already thepiratebay.se, oldpiratebay, maybe this other new one, and potentially many others.

    Now that we know the user and comments databases were intact, the recovery of thepiratebay.se is more useful than previously known. But a revolt of the trusted users isn't too great

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by SGT CAPSLOCK on Sunday February 01 2015, @01:33PM

    by SGT CAPSLOCK (118) on Sunday February 01 2015, @01:33PM (#140039) Journal

    A lot of things just don't seem right with this reborn version of TPB.

    It now seems to be hosted by Cloudflare, the "legal threats" section has been entirely removed from the website, the old staff members are not able/allowed to access the moderation panel anymore, and the Suprbay forum is no longer linked in the links section.

    I'm particularly concerned that the "legal threats" section is gone. It had a lot of important symbolism.

    It's probably best to wait a while and watch what happens before diving back in if you were an active user there. There's no rush anyway; Oldpiratebay ran by the ISO Hunt staff seems to rival TPB's popularity now anyway.

  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 01 2015, @01:57PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 01 2015, @01:57PM (#140044)

    the "old" onion (http://uj3wazyk5u4hnvtk.onion/) doesn't work.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 04 2015, @04:16PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 04 2015, @04:16PM (#141174)

      it seems to be up now. anyone know a better onion proxy than https://uj3wazyk5u4hnvtk.onion.cab/ [onion.cab] ?

      but http://bayimg.com/ [bayimg.com] is still off :-(
      it was very nice site to use for screenshots when explaining things.

  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 03 2015, @03:03PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 03 2015, @03:03PM (#140692)

    the important thing is that making and reading comments now works again. Can all the piratebay-sites share the comments now?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 11 2015, @03:48PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 11 2015, @03:48PM (#143620)

      related to that, what bittorrent website or torrent search do you think have the best comments and dicussions about each torrent? is TPB on top when it comes to that or are there better places now?