For those Soylentils who are contemplating a job change or who are applying for work in IT (Information Technology), this Computerworld salary survey might help when it comes to negotiating compensation.
Remember, let the employer name a figure first, then haggle up from there. There are links at the end of the article providing report as well as to a page where you can compare your pay scale against different job titles, experience level, and geographic area.
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Computerworld's IT Salary Survey 2017
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(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 30 2017, @12:48AM
None of those jobs are allowed to print money. Become a Rothschilds' whore and print legal tender. Be beyond the reach of any and all laws.
Someone looking to change jobs will probably not just be looking at the meager salary and saying hmmm... 1K more than the other job... I think I will take it.
People are moved to do things that interest them. If your only desire is money, then spit-shine the shoes of the Rothschilds and you might get your own money-printing machine. Or you could get a Special Credit Card that you never have to pay back.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 30 2017, @12:57AM (4 children)
This report doesn't pass the smell test to me.
For example, it says the average salary of a programmer is some $91k. However, my understanding is that places like Seattle and Silicon Valley have entry level positions which earn $91k or more, so the average would necessarily be higher.
That's not to say it is "fake news." Just there is more to it than the article suggests... my guess is that regional differences are being masked over by the aggregate. That's fine, but something to keep in mind when comparing one's own salary to these lists.
(Score: 2) by Arik on Thursday March 30 2017, @01:40AM (1 child)
So what's a programmer? Hmm? Is it someone that knows how to point and drool through some IDE? Someone that can string together bits to impress the normies using a script language? Or a high level language like C or ASM? Or are we talking about someone that can actually code here?
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 30 2017, @10:53PM
"Or a high level language like C or ASM?" ROFLMAO
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 30 2017, @02:49AM
There are programmers in places other than seattle and silicon valley.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 30 2017, @10:51PM
I live in St Louis probably on of the lowest payed it areas in the country. These numbers are at least 30% too low.
(Score: 2) by TheGratefulNet on Thursday March 30 2017, @01:51AM (2 children)
it almost never works.
many of us know 'the first person to mention a number *loses*' but companies know this better than we do and they won't let us 'win' anymore.
if you CAN get them to say their number, first, great. but don't expect to have many situations like this.
"It is now safe to switch off your computer."
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 30 2017, @02:59AM (1 child)
So make sure you go job shopping when you already have a good job.
Then name a crazy high number.
If they are unhappy that you started the negotiations so high, tough shit you don't need them.
Or you can play it as a joke. [psychologicalscience.org] Naming a crazy high number as a deliberate joke still gives you the upper hand in negotiations because even though everybody acknowledges it as a joke it still causes the other side to subconsciously frame what they consider to be a valid salary range. IIRC, it was good for about a 10% boost compared to people who didn't make a joke.
(Score: 1) by anubi on Thursday March 30 2017, @05:35AM
They pull that one on me last time. They named something like 50K and thought I am going to fawn all over myself to accept.
Geez, I was just glad I wasn't head over heels in student debt. I'd rather just live lower on the social ladder than sell myself out for that.
In a way, it was almost an insult. Especially when I knew what the income of the guy making the offer was.
No wonder he was so much higher up in value than I was. He has the skill to get people to accept lower wages and still expect top-tier performance.
I had just as soon someone else put up with it. I imagine a H1-B filled that job. Would a Congressman accept that offer either - especially with the micromanagement of being subordinate to a manager comes with?
"Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." [KJV: I Thessalonians 5:21]
(Score: 2) by Snotnose on Thursday March 30 2017, @02:55AM
Then differentiate the results based on city.
Interesting to see how the H1-B salaries stack up against native salaries. Especially cross-correlated to city.
When the dust settled America realized it was saved by a porn star.
(Score: 2) by kaszz on Thursday March 30 2017, @03:38PM
People are still in the job-hours vs money exchange market? ;-)
The market for jobs is rigged.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 01 2017, @03:39AM
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/world/2008-06-18-salaries_N.htm [usatoday.com]
"Every year, Sweden publishes everyone's income tax returns. So do Finland and Norway. And nobody really cares. By contrast, U.S. law prohibits releasing anybody's tax information. Imagine the howl if the IRS put tax returns online, so co-workers, neighbors and mothers-in-law could see what someone earns."