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posted by martyb on Wednesday June 19 2019, @02:31AM   Printer-friendly
from the easier-than-trading-eyeballs dept.

iOS 13's newly expanded NFC support will be useful for more than just hopping on the subway. Germany is taking advantage of the upcoming software's support for Apple-approved NFC identification documents to let residents scan their ID cards and use them both online and for check-ins at international airports. You'll need to wait for both the release of iOS 13 (likely in September) and the German government's AusweisApp2 to make everything work, but this might just save you the trouble of pulling out your wallet to prove who you are.

Source: https://www.engadget.com/2019/06/17/germany-ios-13-id-card-nfc-support/


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  • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 19 2019, @03:25AM (11 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 19 2019, @03:25AM (#857315)

    Ich bin so froh, dass meine Regierung mich jetzt überall verfolgen kann, nicht nur bei meinem Telefonanbieter. Hurra!

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 19 2019, @03:35AM (10 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 19 2019, @03:35AM (#857320)

      You mean they don't already?
      Or, maybe, they do and you are in a river in Egypt.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 19 2019, @03:42AM (9 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 19 2019, @03:42AM (#857323)

        Nein. Das ist nicht so. [dw.com]

        Sie beobachten mich nur mit Kameras und meiner Internetaktivität. Sie verfolgen mein Handy noch nicht. Aber sie werden es bald sein.

        Ich bin so aufgeregt und kann es einfach nicht verbergen. Ich werde die Kontrolle verlieren und ich denke, es gefällt mir.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 19 2019, @06:16AM (3 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 19 2019, @06:16AM (#857337)

          They are tracing your cell phone, most recently they selected for all mobile phones present in the vicinity of the Walther Lübcke murder site.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 19 2019, @06:47AM (2 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 19 2019, @06:47AM (#857341)

            Danke vielmals! Das wusste ich nicht.

            Das ist Grossartig!

            Die Polizei muss in der Lage sein, Verbrecher aufzuspüren, und ich möchte, dass sie sie finden.

            Deshalb gebe ich unseren Freunden, der Polizei, immer das, was sie wollen.

            Nachdem ich ins Gefängnis gegangen war, weil ich auf dem Bürgersteig gespuckt hatte, wurde mir klar, dass die Polizei alles über alle wissen musste. Zu unserer Sicherheit and Sekuritat.

            Tschuss!

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 19 2019, @06:55AM (1 child)

              by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 19 2019, @06:55AM (#857343)

              Das Leben der Anderen, https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0405094/ [imdb.com] Angela Merkel is fantastic in this role!

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 19 2019, @07:14AM

                by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 19 2019, @07:14AM (#857348)

                Fick dich!

                Dein Anführer ist ein riesiges Stück Scheiße.

                Angi Markle ist alt, aber sie regiert gut.

                Sie gibt einen tollen Blasen und ist eine tolle Hure. Wir lieben sie.

                Deine Anführer macht nicht beides. Wertlos.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 19 2019, @06:46AM (4 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 19 2019, @06:46AM (#857340)

          "iPapieren, Bitte!" Are you circumcised, mein Comrade?

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 19 2019, @06:57AM (3 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 19 2019, @06:57AM (#857345)

            Das ist nicht sehr nett.

            Du lasst uns klingen, als wären wir Nazis. Wir lieben alle, auch die Juden.

            Ich bin hierher gekommen, um Dinge zu besprechen, die wichtig sind, um nicht als Nazis bezeichnet zu werden.

            Arschloch!

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 19 2019, @07:10AM (1 child)

              by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 19 2019, @07:10AM (#857347)

              Du hast meine Frage nicht beantwortet.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 19 2019, @07:17AM

                by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 19 2019, @07:17AM (#857349)

                Ja, das stimmt. Du bist ein Arschloch.

                Das ist deine Antwort!

            • (Score: 2) by inertnet on Wednesday June 19 2019, @09:49AM

              by inertnet (4071) on Wednesday June 19 2019, @09:49AM (#857382) Journal

              My mother often told me that during the war, citizens in occupied countries were constantly terrified to hear the words "Ausweis bitte!", not "Papieren bitte!". Hearing those words could mean that you were about to get deported, never to be heard from again.

              I agree with you that current generations should not be held responsible for crimes in the distant past.

  • (Score: 2) by Chocolate on Wednesday June 19 2019, @03:27AM (5 children)

    by Chocolate (8044) on Wednesday June 19 2019, @03:27AM (#857316) Journal

    Just wondering because so far not one place has given a rationale for taking a photocopy of ID to the point of refusing to give a room key for a room already booked and paid for online just for asking why it is needed.

    "We must prove this is you getting your room key so a photocopy of a driver's license is needed" is complete bullshit

    --
    Bit-choco-coin anyone?
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 19 2019, @03:35AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 19 2019, @03:35AM (#857319)

      Yes. Mostly just to piss you off.
      Then again, it's better to be pissed off than pissed on. Unless you're into that kind of thing.

      Now you know.

    • (Score: 2) by NotSanguine on Wednesday June 19 2019, @03:58AM (1 child)

      Thinking back to the last few times I stayed at a hotel, while I was asked for ID (and a credit card for incidentals), no one photocopied my ID or scanned it or anything.

      They looked at it and (presumably, as they didn't say that's what they were doing) verified that the name matched the credit card and the reservation and handed it back to me.

      In fact, I'm not sure that's ever happened when I've checked into a hotel. I suppose it's possible and I don't remember, but definitely not in the past five years or so.

      Is it a particular hotel chain (or country) you're referring to?

      --
      No, no, you're not thinking; you're just being logical. --Niels Bohr
      • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Chocolate on Friday June 21 2019, @03:12PM

        by Chocolate (8044) on Friday June 21 2019, @03:12PM (#858565) Journal

        Not one in particular, no. All of them in two cities required to photocopy a license, and none would provide their policy in writing saying why it was needed. All of them checked the credit card against photo ID, even though the credit card policy says they should not do this.

        --
        Bit-choco-coin anyone?
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 19 2019, @03:24PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 19 2019, @03:24PM (#857469)

      I guess for those situations the iPhone thing is an advantage: Even if they make a photocopy of your iPhone, it probably won't reveal much. :-)

  • (Score: 3, Informative) by Acabatag on Wednesday June 19 2019, @03:46AM (2 children)

    by Acabatag (2885) on Wednesday June 19 2019, @03:46AM (#857324)

    Actually, I really don't want my phone to become anything that is an 'official identity' item. Namely, I don't want my phone to ever become something that law enforcement or government feels like they have the right to scrutinize.

    I like it for there to be little or no plausible reason for a government official to ask me to pull my phone out of my pocket.

    • (Score: 2) by driverless on Wednesday June 19 2019, @06:54AM

      by driverless (4770) on Wednesday June 19 2019, @06:54AM (#857342)

      "Your papers.... iPhone, please! Obersturmbannfuehrer, check his pap... verdammt!"

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 19 2019, @03:32PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 19 2019, @03:32PM (#857473)

      On the other hand, I can imagine that to give a new level of identity theft: You don't need to steal someone's ID card, you just have to scan it with your iPhone …

  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Nuke on Wednesday June 19 2019, @09:08AM (4 children)

    by Nuke (3162) on Wednesday June 19 2019, @09:08AM (#857370)

    this might just save you the trouble of pulling out your wallet to prove who you are

    So why is pulling out an iPhone less trouble than pulling out your wallet? Is it because hipsters never put their iPhone away?

    In fact their iPhone is likely to be at their ear for a non-stop conversation, so it could be kinda difficult to use it for ID at the same time.

    • (Score: 2) by takyon on Wednesday June 19 2019, @09:29AM

      by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Wednesday June 19 2019, @09:29AM (#857376) Journal

      If you're fondling your phone constantly, you know where it is at all times.

      Meanwhile, you have your wallet, passport, etc. stashed away to prevent them from being lost or stolen.

      I think most people are using apps, web browsers, and texts rather than talking, so that is not a problem.

      --
      [SIG] 10/28/2017: Soylent Upgrade v14 [soylentnews.org]
    • (Score: 3, Informative) by SomeGuy on Wednesday June 19 2019, @10:36AM (1 child)

      by SomeGuy (5632) on Wednesday June 19 2019, @10:36AM (#857388)

      So why is pulling out an iPhone less trouble than pulling out your wallet? Is it because hipsters never put their iPhone away?

      Because $$$$ iPhones are sexy. $0.05 ID cards are ugly. Show people your iPhone instead of an ID and you show them you have a big wang and are so rich that you can afford to waste money on a frivolous toy that has to be replaced every couple years and constantly upgraded instead of some plastic ID card that almost never has to be replaced.

      Besides, how is Apple supposed to track people and sell marketing data if they don't use their "phones" for absolutely every absurd little thing?

      • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Wednesday June 19 2019, @04:34PM

        by Freeman (732) on Wednesday June 19 2019, @04:34PM (#857497) Journal

        That would be new model Apple phones, as opposed to say the iPhone SE that I got my wife for $119 + tax/shipping. Google is no better in the tracking department and likely quite a bit worse than Apple with regards to user privacy. So long as you also have an ID card, it's just a convenience for a portion of the population. Sure, men may have a wallet in their pocket, but women generally have it in their purse. The wallet may be buried in there somewhere, but the phone is likely in a side pocket, or the like. I've seen my wife's purse and sometimes it is scary in there.

        --
        Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 22 2019, @07:15PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 22 2019, @07:15PM (#858909)

      I rarely carry my wallet around these days. I can use my phone to pay for most things as pretty much everywhere takes contactless, and I can even use my phone to withdraw money from a cashpoint if I need to.

      I don't live in a country that requires me to carry ID with me either, so would probably take a pass on using my phone for ID anyway.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 19 2019, @03:28PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 19 2019, @03:28PM (#857472)

    As long as they don't make owning an iPhone mandatory, I'm OK with this.

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