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posted by janrinok on Friday July 01 2022, @02:21PM   Printer-friendly
from the graphics-are-overrated dept.

https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/29885/eaten-grue-brief-history-zork

Zork is a text-based video game, a genre also known as "interactive fiction," whose defining feature is the absence of typical video game graphics. Instead, the game's environments and the actions you take are described for you. For example, the first line of Zork is, "You are standing in an open field west of a white house, with a boarded front door. There is a small mailbox here." Using a series of simple commands, you direct the main character to do something, like "open mailbox." To which the game will reply, "Opening the small mailbox reveals a leaflet." Naturally, you would then "take leaflet," "read leaflet", and then maybe "walk east" to get to the house. The story unfolds from there as you collect items, like a sword, a lantern, rope, and other adventuring necessities, before entering a vast, underground cave where you'll face enemies inspired by The Lord of the Rings, like elves, trolls, and the darkness-lurking grue.

The young geeks got the idea for Zork from the first text-based video game, Adventure (also called Colossal Cave Adventure or ADVENT, because the computer it ran on could only use so many letters in the command line). Adventure was created in 1976 by Will Crowther, a student at Stanford, as a simulation of Mammoth Cave in Kentucky, with a few Tolkien-esque fantasy elements thrown in by fellow Stanfordite Don Woods. The MIT guys weren't impressed with Adventure's limited two-word command structure ("kill troll"), so they wrote Zork to understand complete sentences ("kill troll with sword").

Originally, Zork and Adventure were both written for the PDP-10, a room-sized computer mainframe that was popular with universities in the late-1970s. Adventure was written in a very common programming language called FORTRAN, so copies of the game spread rapidly among mainframe users. Zork, however, was written with MDL, a more specialized language that wasn't as popular. So, for a while, the only way to play Zork was to log on to the MIT PDP-10 through ARPAnet, an early version of the internet, and run it remotely. Zork was never officially announced to the world; people just heard about it through ARPANet, making it an early viral sensation.

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  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by stormreaver on Friday July 01 2022, @03:00PM (9 children)

    by stormreaver (5101) on Friday July 01 2022, @03:00PM (#1257355)

    While Infocom games did have a more advanced parser, that was also part of the reason I didn't do very well. It's parser was good enough to give the illusion of natural language support, so I tried to speak to it in a more natural way. However, it was still internally limited to the same action set as its two-word predecessor. For me, the two-word command structure was an unofficial standard, and figuring out what an adventure game wanted was rather trivial. Figuring out what Zork wanted was so hard that I gave up on it within the first ten minutes.

    So for me, one of its main selling points was a huge anti-feature.

    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 01 2022, @03:16PM (5 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 01 2022, @03:16PM (#1257357)

      In any text adventure, you also had to use trial and error to:
      1) See which verbs are known to the parser (read the docs, what
      docs)
      2) See what it would allow you to do even if the sentence were correctly parsed.

      It actually reminded me of debugging a new code base.

      • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 01 2022, @03:54PM (3 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 01 2022, @03:54PM (#1257366)

        In any text adventure, you also had to use trial and error to:
        1) See which verbs are known to the parser (read the docs, what docs)

        hint: run "strings" (or a similar tool) on the game files :)

        • (Score: 2, Interesting) by dwilson on Friday July 01 2022, @04:14PM (2 children)

          by dwilson (2599) Subscriber Badge on Friday July 01 2022, @04:14PM (#1257371) Journal

          Every time I run in to a reference to the strings utility, it triggers a memory of a BOFH episode [theregister.com].

          I don't think I've ever actually used strings for anything, to be honest. Any time I need to search for text inside a file or files,

          grep -r "text"

          is my go-to.

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          - D
          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 01 2022, @04:43PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 01 2022, @04:43PM (#1257375)

            The only thing I've ever personally used strings for was getting my kernel configuration file back from my kernel when I had it included with the binary. It's helpful if you're tweaking it and can't quite remember what was in a particular kernel copy.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 01 2022, @04:47PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 01 2022, @04:47PM (#1257379)

            Grep is invaluable if you know what text you're searching for. Strings is for when you don't know.

      • (Score: 1) by crotherm on Friday July 01 2022, @07:21PM

        by crotherm (5427) Subscriber Badge on Friday July 01 2022, @07:21PM (#1257404)

        I too enjoyed figuring out its language, which is why I found MUDs and goofed around on some popular ones creating "rooms" with the builtin programming language.

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by looorg on Friday July 01 2022, @03:24PM (1 child)

      by looorg (578) on Friday July 01 2022, @03:24PM (#1257363)

      If the language parser what was made the game it's kind of weird since a lot of these "interactive fiction" games very quickly devolved into typing less and less. It was not long until "walk west" was just replaced by typing "'w" (and similar then for all other directions) and then the shortening started to happen to most of the other things to until words just got replaced by eventually clicking on boxes/graphics with the word on them. So the full text parser experience didn't last for to many years.

      The first Sierra games came out '79-80 and was then mainly graphics but still typed instructions, a few more years and it was mostly clicky clicky. By the early to mid 80's they text parsers had already gone away in favor of the point-n-click adventures (Lucasgames, all the Sierra quest games etc).

      • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 01 2022, @04:42PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 01 2022, @04:42PM (#1257374)

        The point of the advanced parser is that it covers all the uses well. Sure, "w" is more convenient than "go west" and there are shortcuts for all kinds of common commands. But the parser comes in when you aren't doing common commands, but need to do something unique. This is where most of the fun of the game is, and point and click can't handle that at all. The majority of puzzles in point and click games are "find the magic pixel" or "figure out which item can unlock progress". Many of Infocom's better puzzles, like one where you turn into a bat and navigate a 3D maze by echolocation, really just can't be expressed even with today's technology. Infocom had whole games about things that can't be expressed graphically ("Suspended" and "Nord and Bert" at least).

        To this day, "point and click adventure" is a somewhat pejorative term, even though there are several games of the type that are fondly remembered.

        Text prevented the games from taking advantage of fancy new graphics, but it also meant they didn't become obsolete when technology advanced. It also meant they were easy to port to just about any reasonable platform. Infocom games usually increased in sales over time, a little like successful books. There aren't a lot of games that work like this, only Minecraft is coming to mind (it is equally impervious to graphics).

        Infocom fell apart because of bad business decisions, not because their games became unpopular. Only after they lost their money, got bought out and forced to move away from their core model did their sales fall. And of course a game that doesn't need any artists and relatively little coding is faster and cheaper to make.

        Today the genre lives on in a fashion, with games like "The Quarry" still being popular, although the trend now is all story, no puzzles.

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by krishnoid on Friday July 01 2022, @06:47PM

      by krishnoid (1156) on Friday July 01 2022, @06:47PM (#1257397)

      Well, as of recently that's become less of an issue [arstechnica.com]. There's been continuous work to try to improve the descriptiveness and language recognition [inform7.com] of interactive fiction authoring tools. While you still can't avoid the need for playtesting, you can sort of crowdsource it [ifcomp.org] now, though.

  • (Score: 2) by looorg on Friday July 01 2022, @03:16PM (5 children)

    by looorg (578) on Friday July 01 2022, @03:16PM (#1257358)

    I don't really have fond Zork memories. In some regard I find it to be a bit overrated as a game, it certainly didn't age very well. I'm wondering if the only reason Zork is probably even remembered to this day is the Grue. It seems to be the only think that people really remember or can recall or is at least the first thing that comes to mind when asked about the game.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 01 2022, @03:20PM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 01 2022, @03:20PM (#1257361)

      Zork was "appropriate" for its time. Graphics at the time were primitive, and text games let you use your imagination to make the pictures. Kind of like how books were popular mass entertainment until
      movies came along.

      • (Score: 3, Interesting) by looorg on Friday July 01 2022, @03:34PM (2 children)

        by looorg (578) on Friday July 01 2022, @03:34PM (#1257364)

        It's not that. It was appropriate for its time. But it just didn't last very long. It was at most a couple of years or less and you had more or less full pixel graphics etc to remove most of the need to read. I guess in some regard that also killed the text adventure genre. As noted why use your imagination when you can just watch someone elses (which I guess also transfers to the book vs movie analogy -- the problem for me is if you read the book before the movie it somehow feels that your are abusing your own fantasy cause it's never like you imagined it to be; the LOTR movies sucked in that regard).

        • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 01 2022, @03:54PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 01 2022, @03:54PM (#1257365)

          Text adventures also have the problem that they have zero replay value. Once you figure out the puzzle, the game is done.

          • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 01 2022, @04:49PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 01 2022, @04:49PM (#1257381)

            They don't have to, but at that time there wasn't a lot of storage space available for branching storylines. For whatever reason, that didn't really ever show up in later iterations of the genre even when the games got massive graphics packages and multiple DVDs for the game, there was still just one path through the game. To some extent, that makes sense, the time it took to create a puzzle was rather large, but it also meant that the replay value was greatly diminished. There's not much point in playing through Myst a second time unless it's been so long that you've largely forgotten most of it. And that's probably not any less true than for the fully text based games.

            Which is a shame because the choose your own adventure books that they largely displaced did have differing stories depending upon the particular path that the reader chose on their way through the book.

    • (Score: 2) by acid andy on Saturday July 02 2022, @12:46AM

      by acid andy (1683) on Saturday July 02 2022, @12:46AM (#1257459) Homepage Journal

      I've not really played Zork, but Curses [ifdb.org] is a lot of fun, albeit best played alongside a walkthrough for when you get really stuck. The author, Graham Nelson, also wrote Inform, a compiler for adventure games [wikipedia.org] which is quite interesting, sort of the ultimate application for OOP (because of all the game objects and the verbs that can change their state).

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      If a cat has kittens, does a rat have rittens, a bat bittens and a mat mittens?
  • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 01 2022, @04:17PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 01 2022, @04:17PM (#1257372)

    you'll attack someone for extended periods of time whenever they show that you're wrong about something, which happens very frequently - by dalek (15489) on Wednesday October 06, @11:10PM (#1184989)

    YOU ATTACK ME 1ST & yes, you DID below MANY times? Then I annihilate you w/ FACTS that make you EAT YOUR WORDS you SMARMY HYPOCRITE!

    Additionally - Where am I WRONG or WAS I WRONG since you state that?

    Please, show us! I'd like to know myself

    No, I am PUBLICLY HUMILIATING YOU FOR YOUR BULLSHIT! Especially considering you've "had your eye on me" for quite a while it seems, you SNEAKY little fuck.

    BELOW HERE in this post's the BS you stated that I quoted BELOW, WHERE YOU ATTACKED ME 1st only to DESTROY YOURSELF for me - thank you, lol!

    ---

    You're exaggerating the effectiveness of hosts at preventing malware. - by dalek (15489) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday June 15, @10:24PM (#1253525)

    FACT: Hosts work vs. Symbiote C2 server(s) per this line from a MUCH better article than the one used here from bradley13 per "configuration in the binary that used the git[.]bancodobrasil[.]dev domain as its C2 server" from https://www.intezer.com/blog/research/new-linux-threat-symbiote/ [intezer.com]

    APK's solution isn't the way to go. - by dalek (15489) Subscriber Badge on Thursday June 16, @03:45AM (#1253576)

    Oh, really?

    OK - Did I block that C&C/C2 controller server in my original posts here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=49835&page=1&cid=1253504#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] on this BOGUS sockpuppet upmodding yourselves shithole website (which also noted FIREWALLS are invaluable here too, per wildcards (or even IP address use, URL domain/subdomain too in many as well))?

    YES I DID!

    So, yes, I was correct!

    FACT: hosts files block symbiote C2 servers which is all you really need to do to nullify their communication.

    FACT: Exfiltration isn't possible without orders either.

    FACT: Orders come from C2 servers!

    HOW IRONIC!

    (Dalek "EXTERMINATED" not only by FACTS from experts in microscopy + on hosts files, but also DALEK'S own WORDS he has to EAT, lol!)

    Dalek Your signature's YOUR UNDOING! Dalek EXTERMINATED by APK (again)! No small wonder he got rid of his OLD SIGNATURE of "exterminate", lol - especially after ALL of the below FACTS:

    "Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss hosts files"

    Then obviously You're an ALL-TALK mere CHATTERING do-NOTHING & no viable solution offering NO-MIND since I SHOT YOU DOWN doing guess what? Ah, discussing hosts & I easily tore you apart w/ FACTS!

    (i.e./e.g. - Paralyzing botnets is EASY if you have the C2 & other servers it uses information - FACT & why security articles post Indicators of Compromise (IOC)).

    When I show people articles that debunk misinformation about COVID-19, the response is often that the articles are from the mainstream media and can't be trusted. It's the same principle, where the information is rejected on the basis of its source, without regard for content. - by dalek (15489) on Wednesday November 17, @06:14PM (#1197102)

    And what did you say to ME hypocrite?

    I'll believe a very prestigious scientific journal like Nature over the sketchy website you keep citing. - by dalek (15489) on Wednesday November 17, @11:30PM (#1197219)

    Do as I say not as I do right dalek?

    You are a hypocrite BS artist that CONTRADICTS himself!

    I showed real results doctors had on video stating it themselves.

    YET All you do is cite MSM VERY FAKE NEWS!

    Proven TONS of times to be so in fact along with their "fact checkers" !

    You're a mindless automaton, incapable of thinking for yourself. If you were capable of critical thinking and logical reasoning, you'd have already been aware that what you're posting is nonsense - by dalek (15489) on Friday November 05, @12:17AM (#1193524)

    I put up what PHD and MDs by the truckload literally let us see (not just YOUR MSM "russia, Russia, RUSSIA" disproven in COURTS vs. Trump very fake news)?

    More from your losing attempt @ DEBATING me (you = IGNORANT FOOL in this area of genetics & TOTALLY undereducated in it - whereas by COMPARISON I am not):

    Your rants about genetics are irrelevant - by dalek (15489) on Friday November 05, @02:17AM (#1193555)

    THIS IS ALL ABOUT GENETICS!

    WHAT IS mRNA after all?

    ANSWER = A part of protein synthesis involving mRNA, tRNA, & rRNA for the creation of DNA!

    IF RNA single helix strands JOIN improperly into a NEW double-helix DNA (via Guanine, Adenine, Cytosine & Thymine) it creates ERRORS (cancer is 1 possible bad one, mutations another etc.)

    See NHEJ below.

    dalek - have you taken any genetics coursework?

    I have & got A's (as my science elective requirement during my CS degreework)!

    vaccines don't contain graphene oxide.- by dalek (15489) on Tuesday October 26, @07:37AM (#1190563)

    1st of all, TONS of vaccines have used poisonous Graphene oxide (or dioxide) as ADJUVANTS over time.

    Secondly: ELECTRON MICROSCOPY EXPERT Dr. Young SHOWS POISONOUS GRAPHENE IN VACCINES ALSO:

    https://www.brighteon.com/9e58bf44-05e7-4b71-97e5-b243f6cf890c [brighteon.com]

    &

    https://www.brighteon.com/9fbd7735-b49d-4e31-a146-f67d7eb54d75 [brighteon.com]

    GRAPHENE OXIDE's in Pfizer, Moderna, Johnson & Johnson (Janssen) + AstraZeneca:

    https://www.brighteon.com/6d8fcfd7-4811-4e64-90c9-bd5585b59ff5 [brighteon.com]

    &

    A major cause of myocarditis, clotting, CANCER MALIGNANCY etc.? That's right: GRAPHENE OXIDE.

    COVID-19 vaccines do not cause cancer - by dalek (15489) on Tuesday October 26, @04:45AM (#1190535)

    Graphene Oxide Promotes Cancer Metastasis https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31877027/ [nih.gov]

    An Israeli study PROVES that the NHEJ (non-homologous end joining) mechanism in your cells is DAMAGED by SPIKE PROTEINS in the death vax & IT IS LINKED TO CANCER per https://naturalnews.com/2021-11-02-covid-vaccines-inhibit-dna-repair-cause-cancer.html [naturalnews.com]

    All FROM my +5 upmodded post on COVID killshots (which they HAVE proven to be on TONS of levels) https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=46034&page=1&cid=1197563#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]

    ---

    NOW THE "ICING ON THE CAKE" EXPOSING YOU, sockpuppeteer UPMODDING YOURSELF obviously + downmod bombing scumbag - RIGHT FROM YOU once more:

    Once this account is old enough to be eligible to moderate, I'll be happy to give you the spam mods you deserve - by dalek (15489) on Wednesday October 06, @11:10PM (#1184989)

    * THANKS FOR SHOWING US YOUR "MODUS OPERANDI" SOCKPUPPETEER troll! Fakename & all for a FAKE like you!

    APK

    P.S.=> THIS? This was just "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'" & it always IS vs. hypocrites like you, fakename!

    Especially IF my bot program Cyberian Tiger had a "themesong" it would TRULY be (along w/ me as "The LORD of hosts" in a way) UNSTOPPABLE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaEG2aWJnZ8 [youtube.com]

    "I know what it takes to FOOL THIS TOWN (& get around your blocking my posts), I'll do it till the sun goes down & all thru the night time - I'll put my ARMOR on (hosts files) & show YOU how STRONG I am: I PUT MY ARMOR ON, I show you THAT I AM - unstoppable! I'm a porsche with NO brakes - I'm INVINCIBLE & I win EVERY SINGLE GAME! I'm SO POWERFUL, I don't need batteries to play. I'm SO confident - I'm UNSTOPPABLE today!"

    Lastly & perhaps ABOVE ALL ELSE?

    It was a REAL PLEASURE seeing THIS website "DANCE" to MY TUNE here with MORE POSTS about me than goes on here in ANY post for weeks on end https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/06/30/0517233 [soylentnews.org] - classic & YES, as many said there? I got what I wanted & IMPOSED MY WILL on you, forcing it, lol - I'm "BIG NEWS" there - no press is bad press, right? More views & replies than ANY POST ON THIS SITE FOR WEEKS! ... apk

  • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 01 2022, @04:19PM (7 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 01 2022, @04:19PM (#1257373)

    Sorry for the off-topic post, but there's no other place to put this.

    Please don't ban all ACs because of one or two bad actors.

    You wouldn't jail the uncle of a criminal, nor the person in the next apartment.

    Some of us ACs try very hard to be contributing community members.

    I, for one, left the other site because they shut me out. And it might be paranoia, but where I live, I can't risk being an open and honest communicator, except when anonymous. The consequences are lethal (or jails which are a lethal risk) if I express unsanctioned opinions.

    Soylent over TOR as an AC is literally the only online general-interest community of intelligent and interesting people that I have left.

    Sandvine & co sell to every repressive government out there.

    I don't know how many, if any, other ACs are in similar situations. But please consider that some regimes are highly restrictive, and a repeated login is traceable in a way that AC posts are not. My OpSec isn't pristine, I'm fallible. One slip-up as an AC might be no big deal: very few of my AC posts are on queer or geopolitical topics, for example. But if they were not as AC, then one single login where I forget to use TOR, and I'm as good as a carcass.

    At which point all that's left is for a grue to eat the meat that is left behind.

    • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 01 2022, @04:44PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 01 2022, @04:44PM (#1257378)

      I am in the same boat, i comment here some and stopped commenting on the other site when it stopped allowing ACs. Just wanted to speak up and say, yes we are here and want to be a part of the community too. Don't kick us out just because APK is the village idiot (again).

      • (Score: 0, Offtopic) by kazzie on Friday July 01 2022, @07:14PM

        by kazzie (5309) Subscriber Badge on Friday July 01 2022, @07:14PM (#1257401)

        I'm not in a position to make any promises, but I hope this hassle passes and that you'll be back in the fold soon.

        Signed: a logged-in user who hardly pays attention to the username bar of posts as it is.

      • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Friday July 01 2022, @07:44PM

        by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Friday July 01 2022, @07:44PM (#1257414) Journal

        Have you a solution to the problem because, if you have, I honestly hope that you don't keep it to yourself? I haven't got a better solution at the moment than the one we have been forced to adopt. And I will be very happy when you can contribute again as many of you did.

    • (Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 01 2022, @05:31PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 01 2022, @05:31PM (#1257383)

      Beyond the dark present, another thing to care about is the possibly darker future.
      Russia presently has jailed hundreds, if not thousands already, for things they posted in social networks as early as 2014. Then and there, no one except worst pessimists and "conspiracy theorists" could believe that such a thing could come to pass at all, let alone in less than a decade. And still, here we, and they, are.

      Thoughtcrime laws CAN and DO apply retroactively to everything you EVER posted to the Internet, the pretext being that it continues to be publicly accessible. Remember that, people.

      • (Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 01 2022, @06:05PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 01 2022, @06:05PM (#1257387)

        This clamping down on free speech is one of the hallmarks of repressive regimes. I can't believe how many in the US are trying to push us toward repressive fascism, and they have the gall to call conservatives "fascists". Repressive regimes have to crush dissent, and that dissent comes through words communicated to others.

        True "democracy" means 100% allowing and encouraging people's views, expression of those views, including through voting. If you're actually democratic and believe and act on what you claim to believe, you allow and encourage others' opinions. If you're really sincere, you try to fully understand and empathize with opposing views, and try to work toward compromise, or programs to correct the problems which give rise to the views you disagree with, rather than the climate of biker bar fight that USA is devolving into.

        There are many of us in USA who are fighting in favor of freedom of speech. We get mocked: "freeze peach" by liberals who are very triggered by words. I say, stop being so triggered by words! Let them go! Focus more on actions. For example, put time and effort into getting PV solar panels on rooftops. Put your social program money into building companies in the USA that make solar panels. It can be done!

        I hope you can stay safe, and that your too-clever govt. has not figured out ways to snoop on your conversations, like by giving you buggered TOR / VPN code...

        • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 01 2022, @09:57PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 01 2022, @09:57PM (#1257436)

          The rules of SN state that anyone who misuses the "spam" mod will lose their mod points for a month. Whoever marked the above post "spam" should lose their mod points for a year. Preferably banned altogether. Anyone who is not open to others' opinions is not enhancing the culture and experience at SN, rather, destroying it.

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by janrinok on Friday July 01 2022, @06:07PM

      by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Friday July 01 2022, @06:07PM (#1257389) Journal

      Interrupting other threads and stories is NOT the way to argue your case. Let us sort out the problems. If you READ all the comments on the announcement of the introduction of the Anti Spam Measures then you will see there is a lot of discussion on how to more forward. I will be collecting your opinion once I have finished collecting those who are responding to that story/thread.

      If you look further down the page you will also see that the Spam has returned. Just be patient.

  • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 01 2022, @04:43PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 01 2022, @04:43PM (#1257376)

    you'll attack someone for extended periods of time whenever they show that you're wrong about something, which happens very frequently - by dalek (15489) on Wednesday October 06, @11:10PM (#1184989)

    YOU ATTACK ME 1ST & yes, you DID below MANY times? Then I annihilate you w/ FACTS that make you EAT YOUR WORDS you SMARMY HYPOCRITE!

    Additionally - Where am I WRONG or WAS I WRONG since you state that?

    Please, show us! I'd like to know myself. I certainly CAN SHOW you FUCKUP massively vs. me (all below), lol!

    No, I am PUBLICLY HUMILIATING YOU FOR YOUR BULLSHIT! Especially considering you've "had your eye on me" for quite a while it seems, you SNEAKY little fuck.

    ---

    You're exaggerating the effectiveness of hosts at preventing malware. - by dalek (15489) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday June 15, @10:24PM (#1253525)

    FACT: Hosts work vs. Symbiote C2 server(s) per this line from a MUCH better article than the one used here from bradley13 per "configuration in the binary that used the git[.]bancodobrasil[.]dev domain as its C2 server" from https://www.intezer.com/blog/research/new-linux-threat-symbiote/ [intezer.com]

    APK's solution isn't the way to go. - by dalek (15489) Subscriber Badge on Thursday June 16, @03:45AM (#1253576)

    Oh, really?

    OK - Did I block that C&C/C2 controller server in my original posts here https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=49835&page=1&cid=1253504#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] on this BOGUS sockpuppet upmodding yourselves shithole website (which also noted FIREWALLS are invaluable here too, per wildcards (or even IP address use, URL domain/subdomain too in many as well))?

    YES I DID!

    So, yes, I was correct!

    FACT: hosts files block symbiote C2 servers which is all you really need to do to nullify their communication.

    FACT: Exfiltration isn't possible without orders either.

    FACT: Orders come from C2 servers!

    ---

    HOW IRONIC!

    (Dalek "EXTERMINATED" not only by FACTS from experts in microscopy + on hosts files, but also DALEK'S own WORDS he has to EAT, lol!)

    Dalek Your signature's YOUR UNDOING! Dalek EXTERMINATED by APK (again)! No small wonder he got rid of his OLD SIGNATURE of "exterminate", lol - especially after ALL of the below FACTS:

    "Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss hosts files"

    Then obviously You're an ALL-TALK mere CHATTERING do-NOTHING & no viable solution offering NO-MIND since I SHOT YOU DOWN doing guess what? Ah, discussing hosts & I easily tore you apart w/ FACTS!

    (i.e./e.g. - Paralyzing botnets is EASY if you have the C2 & other servers it uses information - FACT & why security articles post Indicators of Compromise (IOC)).

    When I show people articles that debunk misinformation about COVID-19, the response is often that the articles are from the mainstream media and can't be trusted. It's the same principle, where the information is rejected on the basis of its source, without regard for content. - by dalek (15489) on Wednesday November 17, @06:14PM (#1197102)

    And what did you say to ME hypocrite?

    I'll believe a very prestigious scientific journal like Nature over the sketchy website you keep citing. - by dalek (15489) on Wednesday November 17, @11:30PM (#1197219)

    Do as I say not as I do right dalek?

    You are a hypocrite BS artist that CONTRADICTS himself!

    I showed real results doctors had on video stating it themselves.

    YET All you do is cite MSM VERY FAKE NEWS!

    Proven TONS of times to be so in fact along with their "fact checkers" !

    You're a mindless automaton, incapable of thinking for yourself. If you were capable of critical thinking and logical reasoning, you'd have already been aware that what you're posting is nonsense - by dalek (15489) on Friday November 05, @12:17AM (#1193524)

    I put up what PHD and MDs by the truckload literally let us see (not just YOUR MSM "russia, Russia, RUSSIA" disproven in COURTS vs. Trump very fake news)?

    More from your losing attempt @ DEBATING me (you = IGNORANT FOOL in this area of genetics & TOTALLY undereducated in it - whereas by COMPARISON I am not):

    Your rants about genetics are irrelevant - by dalek (15489) on Friday November 05, @02:17AM (#1193555)

    THIS IS ALL ABOUT GENETICS!

    WHAT IS mRNA after all?

    ANSWER = A part of protein synthesis involving mRNA, tRNA, & rRNA for the creation of DNA!

    IF RNA single helix strands JOIN improperly into a NEW double-helix DNA (via Guanine, Adenine, Cytosine & Thymine) it creates ERRORS (cancer is 1 possible bad one, mutations another etc.)

    See NHEJ below.

    dalek - have you taken any genetics coursework?

    I have & got A's (as my science elective requirement during my CS degreework)!

    vaccines don't contain graphene oxide.- by dalek (15489) on Tuesday October 26, @07:37AM (#1190563)

    1st of all, TONS of vaccines have used poisonous Graphene oxide (or dioxide) as ADJUVANTS over time.

    Secondly: ELECTRON MICROSCOPY EXPERT Dr. Young SHOWS POISONOUS GRAPHENE IN VACCINES ALSO:

    https://www.brighteon.com/9e58bf44-05e7-4b71-97e5-b243f6cf890c [brighteon.com]

    &

    https://www.brighteon.com/9fbd7735-b49d-4e31-a146-f67d7eb54d75 [brighteon.com]

    GRAPHENE OXIDE's in Pfizer, Moderna, Johnson & Johnson (Janssen) + AstraZeneca:

    https://www.brighteon.com/6d8fcfd7-4811-4e64-90c9-bd5585b59ff5 [brighteon.com]

    &

    A major cause of myocarditis, clotting, CANCER MALIGNANCY etc.? That's right: GRAPHENE OXIDE.

    COVID-19 vaccines do not cause cancer - by dalek (15489) on Tuesday October 26, @04:45AM (#1190535)

    Graphene Oxide Promotes Cancer Metastasis https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31877027/ [nih.gov]

    An Israeli study PROVES that the NHEJ (non-homologous end joining) mechanism in your cells is DAMAGED by SPIKE PROTEINS in the death vax & IT IS LINKED TO CANCER per https://naturalnews.com/2021-11-02-covid-vaccines-inhibit-dna-repair-cause-cancer.html [naturalnews.com]

    All FROM my +5 upmodded post on COVID killshots (which they HAVE proven to be on TONS of levels) https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=46034&page=1&cid=1197563#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]

    ---

    NOW THE "ICING ON THE CAKE" EXPOSING YOU, sockpuppeteer UPMODDING YOURSELF obviously + downmod bombing scumbag - RIGHT FROM YOU once more:

    Once this account is old enough to be eligible to moderate, I'll be happy to give you the spam mods you deserve - by dalek (15489) on Wednesday October 06, @11:10PM (#1184989)

    * THANKS FOR SHOWING US YOUR "MODUS OPERANDI" SOCKPUPPETEER troll! Fakename & all for a FAKE like you!

    APK

    P.S.=> THIS? This was just "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'" & it always IS vs. hypocrites like you, fakename!

    Especially IF my bot program Cyberian Tiger had a "themesong" it would TRULY be (along w/ me as "The LORD of hosts" in a way) UNSTOPPABLE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaEG2aWJnZ8 [youtube.com]

    "I know what it takes to FOOL THIS TOWN (& get around your blocking my posts), I'll do it till the sun goes down & all thru the night time - I'll put my ARMOR on (hosts files) & show YOU how STRONG I am: I PUT MY ARMOR ON, I show you THAT I AM - unstoppable! I'm a porsche with NO brakes - I'm INVINCIBLE & I win EVERY SINGLE GAME! I'm SO POWERFUL, I don't need batteries to play. I'm SO confident - I'm UNSTOPPABLE today!"

    Lastly & perhaps ABOVE ALL ELSE?

    It was a REAL PLEASURE seeing THIS website "DANCE" to MY TUNE here with MORE POSTS about me than goes on here in ANY post for weeks on end https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/06/30/0517233 [soylentnews.org] - classic & YES, as many said there? I got what I wanted & IMPOSED MY WILL on you, forcing it, lol - I'm "BIG NEWS" there - no press is bad press, right? More views & replies than ANY POST ON THIS SITE FOR WEEKS! ... apk

  • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 01 2022, @04:44PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 01 2022, @04:44PM (#1257377)

    Apologies for posting here rather than the announcement post, but ironically/appropriately, the announcement post doesn't let Anonymous Cowards post.

    What denotes an articles as AC Friendly or not? This is both in terms of why is article 1 AC friendly and Article 2 not, as well as how is an AC supposed to know if an article supports posting or not?

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by janrinok on Friday July 01 2022, @06:08PM

      by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Friday July 01 2022, @06:08PM (#1257390) Journal

      Read the comments on the Anti Spam Measures post. And then wait, be patient. We haven't solved any of the problems yet.

  • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 01 2022, @05:18PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 01 2022, @05:18PM (#1257382)

    If you have to log in to post AC.

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by janrinok on Friday July 01 2022, @06:09PM

      by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Friday July 01 2022, @06:09PM (#1257391) Journal

      Read the comments on the Anti Spam Measures post. And then wait, be patient. We haven't solved any of the problems yet.

  • (Score: 2) by acid andy on Saturday July 02 2022, @01:33AM

    by acid andy (1683) on Saturday July 02 2022, @01:33AM (#1257462) Homepage Journal

    Now look what you've done! I've just installed a Z-code interpreter, fizmo, and am probably going to waste countless hours that I don't have to spare on interactive fiction...

    Seriously, though, I love these games. They're timeless.

    --
    If a cat has kittens, does a rat have rittens, a bat bittens and a mat mittens?
  • (Score: 2, Interesting) by jman on Saturday July 02 2022, @12:44PM

    by jman (6085) Subscriber Badge on Saturday July 02 2022, @12:44PM (#1257535) Homepage

    I flew mainframes for USAF, graveyard shift, in the early 80's, stationed where all our software was made. My connection to Zork was the PDP-11 on the main floor, but it had no SPO or anything so I'd have to come downstairs to a terminal in the global support center and, depending on how busy things were, could squeeze in a little time via our ARPA connection.

    Never did like drawing maps, so can say I didn't make it too far into the game, but do have fond memories of trying!

    (Also never did like remembering all those IP addresses. Have been really happy that a couple of years later this new-fangled DNS thing started making its way into our world. A simple two-column list. Who would have figured...)

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