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posted by martyb on Saturday May 30 2015, @01:52AM   Printer-friendly
from the Embrace-Extend-Extinguish dept.

At its WinHEC hardware conference in Shenzhen, China, Microsoft talked about the hardware requirements for Windows 10. The precise final specs are not available yet, so all this is somewhat subject to change, but right now, Microsoft says that the switch to allow Secure Boot to be turned off is now optional. Hardware can be Designed for Windows 10 and can offer no way to opt out of the Secure Boot lock down.

The presentation is silent on whether OEMs can or should provide support for adding custom certificates.


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  • (Score: 4, Informative) by Nerdfest on Saturday May 30 2015, @04:22AM

    by Nerdfest (80) on Saturday May 30 2015, @04:22AM (#189985)

    Microsoft will not pay them, they will threaten to charge them *a lot more* for Windows installs than other companies that play nice and lock out those nasty competing operating systems.

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  • (Score: 2) by captain normal on Saturday May 30 2015, @05:43AM

    by captain normal (2205) on Saturday May 30 2015, @05:43AM (#189994)

    More than likely they will have to pay the OEMs more to lock down boot. Google will very happy to push all the Chromium OSes for a lot less. Then there are other interesting players out there. I'd been looking at taking a 1/4G $ Samsung Chromebook and booting in Cyanogen. But now it seems I may soon be able to buy one off the shelf.

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    • (Score: 2) by Nerdfest on Saturday May 30 2015, @12:33PM

      by Nerdfest (80) on Saturday May 30 2015, @12:33PM (#190085)

      I forgot about Chrome. I think you're correct in that helping to mitigate their abuse.

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by kaszz on Saturday May 30 2015, @07:52AM

    by kaszz (4211) on Saturday May 30 2015, @07:52AM (#190016) Journal

    I'm sure the European Union competition regulators would love to bite deeply into a Microsoft or hardware manufacturers that attempt to lock out the competition. And manufacturers that plays along with the Microsoft agenda may be specifically targeted by people with deep coding skills and bad karma in their book. In a free for all scenario.
    Any good ideas? ;)

    Again this does however prove the point that Microsoft acts in bad faith and should be counteracted at all times.

    Otoh, "smart"-phones have this kind of locked bootloader. And look what that got them. Rooting, jailbreaks etc. So alternative OS may come with that inside the installation manager. Ie first install blessed OS, then run special installer to get a real OS.

  • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday May 30 2015, @01:43PM

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday May 30 2015, @01:43PM (#190098) Journal

    ExxxxxACTLY!

    Remember how MS built the beginnings of it's monopoly? With a simple threat. "You build ONLY MS OS computers, or you will build NONE AT ALL!" Which of the mega-manufacturers is going to risk being cut off completely?

    Just maybe the government will find itself capable of doing something meaningful if MS starts throwing it's weight around this time.

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  • (Score: 2) by Hairyfeet on Saturday May 30 2015, @09:20PM

    by Hairyfeet (75) <reversethis-{moc ... {8691tsaebssab}> on Saturday May 30 2015, @09:20PM (#190217) Journal

    Won't happen as the EU will throw the finehammer if they try that shit, so I'm willing to bet its just gonna be the tablet and convertables. After all nearly all of those are using the "Windows powered by Bing" free OS so by locking they at least get some Bing search data out of the deal.

    And lets be honest here guys....if you are sooo cheap that you buy a device that has cut so many corners its using a "Windows by Bing" instead of a true full version....do you REALLY have the right to bitch? It'd be like bitching that those sub $200 netbooks with Win 7 Starter didn't come with XP mode and 64bit support. YOU chose to buy the cheapest thing you could find, YOU could have taken a whole 4 seconds to read the bullet points (where they all clearly mark "powered by Bing") so why should anybody care about you wanting features you obviously weren't willing to pay for?

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