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posted by cmn32480 on Tuesday October 27 2015, @10:48AM   Printer-friendly
from the they-are-hiding dept.

A couple of years ago it was reported that in 2012 more than half of all American wage earners made less than $30,000 per year. The Social Security Administration's new earnings report for 2014 is out and there's still much gnashing of teeth about the dying middle class. With earnings numbers that haven't changed much in 2 years, estimates running as high as 100 million working age Americans without a job, and no one tracking the population of H-1B visa holders, where are the jobs really?

The July 9, 2015, issue of The New York Review of Books carried a very thoughtful piece by Andrew Hacker. In "The Frenzy About High-Tech Talent," Hacker discusses a number of books and reports that address whether or not there really is a need for more tech talent, the justification for the H-1B visa program, and issues in the American educational system.

[...] Throughout his piece Hacker is basically questioning two things:

1. Is there really an unfilled need for STEM graduates, or are we actually graduating too many so that many end up unemployed or employed in different areas?

2. Are there flaws in the American education system, both at the K-12 level and in college, that lead us to be very dependent on foreign STEM graduates?

[...] The texts Hacker is reviewing, and his own information, seem to dwell predominately on overall job projections for the STEM fields. Nowhere does there appear a breakout of the job forecast for computing related job categories. With the increased ubiquity of computing across all industries and employment sectors, it seems unlikely that we will see the "deskilling" trend that may be occurring in engineering (whereby engineers create equipment that means they and others like them no longer have job opportunities). We know that there are many jobs in the "tech sector" but there are also a lot of computing jobs in banking, finance, manufacturing, agriculture, healthcare, etc. We can get an accurate picture of future job openings only if we can make a good determination of the computing jobs that exist outside of the "tech sector."


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  • (Score: 0, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 27 2015, @07:23PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 27 2015, @07:23PM (#255246)

    Scam 1:
    i.e. call a Sr. DBA role a Jr. DBA role (with a Jr. DBA salary of course) on the job spec, then hire an actual Sr. DBA H-1B from a 3rd world country to fill the role. As the Jr. salary in the USA will still be multiples of what that H-1B would earn in their own country as a Sr. DBA, they will gladly take the role anyway even though it is a 'Jr. role', and push out the American Sr. DBA. They won't complain about as they don't want get sent back to India or whereever.

    I keep seeing bollocks like this. You guys never consider that these H1Bs have to live in the US. "will still be multiple of what X would earn in their own country" is an invalid argument because they are no longer in their own countries.
    Learn how to relative, man.

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  • (Score: 2) by turgid on Tuesday October 27 2015, @10:47PM

    by turgid (4318) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday October 27 2015, @10:47PM (#255315) Journal

    Tomorrow I will tell you a story.