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Workers in the UK have suffered the biggest fall in wages among the world's richest countries since the financial crisis, research has suggested.
Between 2007 and 2015 wages in the UK fell by 10.4%, a drop equalled only by Greece, the analysis by the TUC [Trades Union Congress] found.
Women's pay in particular needs to be boosted, the union body said. Women earn on average 19.2% less than men, according to the latest official data.
The Treasury said the TUC's analysis did not fully reflect living standards.
The UK is the joint biggest faller on pay in 29 countries of the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) - a forum for wealthy countries who work together to promote financial growth and social wellbeing.
The UK, Greece and Portugal were the only three OECD countries that saw real wages fall, according to the research complied by the TUC.
Source: BBC News
(Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday August 02 2016, @11:01PM
You're a fucking moron. Those jobs won't come back unless we slap huge fucking tariffs on nearly everything coming into port. Then maybe over 10-20 years will see our local industries come back and be retrained to the point we used to be. For 150 years industry, shareholders, and the elites have pushed back against anything preventing their exploitation of the workers. Their monied influence in politics has assured their ability to hamper organized labor, and then bypass it directly by outsourcing everything to countries where their corrupt practices reign supreme.
Then there is this bit of Trumpness "We'll build a wall and make China pay for it."
Be careful when you create a slave class underneath you to service you at your whim; Sometimes they revolt and kill their masters/oppressors. Keep thinking that is violent fantasy and not well founded fears about future events.
I create a slave class? When is your slave class ever going to be an employer when all they know how to do is suckle at the government teat? My policies would encourage create and growth of new employers and thus, create of new avenues for advancement. I think we need to understand who really is the slave-maker here.
(Score: 2) by edIII on Wednesday August 03 2016, @12:18AM
It's not love you stupid fuck, it's being able to live. Why the fuck would you work for an employer for less than what you need to survive? Ohh, yeah, that's right. Employment is voluntary, but if you deliberately manipulate the labor pool you have desperate hungry people willing to work for less because they have no other choice afforded to them. There are less jobs because of outsourcing to other countries, where there is no fucking way on Earth you can argue that it is fair and correct. We're not meant to compete with other desperate people in 3rd world hell holes. That's impossible, and your fucking solution (yes, yours), is that we move to these countries where the prices are cheaper.
What higher costs are we thrusting upon them? From the very beginning you stupid fuck those costs were about increasing safety, reducing pollution, offering a living wage. These are not unreasonable increases in costs at all, and you allow the corporations to leave this country to exploit others. So not only are we exploiting a foreign population for cheap labor, we're shooting ourselves in the foot over here eliminating these jobs that used to be the core of the middle class. Union factory jobs were what made this country as great as it was, and it wasn't until the late 70's and corrupt regulations that you saw everything being outsourced.
Yeah, nice how you completely ignore how there are workers and executives. They'll lay off workers who are too expensive, but somehow executives keep getting paid more and more. They're not worth it, and you fucking know it. What did we get from the geniuses again? Corrupt practices, they outsourced everything to foreign countries, performed massive amounts of malfeasance (Unaoil/Mosseck Fonseca).
You're being so fucking simplistic, it has to be deliberate ignorance.
There is your idiocy. Putting the tariffs up has nothing do with building a wall and having China pay for it. It means that we no longer allow those jobs to be performed in China at all. Eliminate all H1B work, and then slap tariffs on everything higher and higher, till surprise, surprise, the market reacts by bringing factories back to the U.S. That means union jobs come back, and that means our young people will start being trained again on how to do these kinds of work. You've heard of brain drain right you stupid fucker? Well, are we just going to forget how to make things? Sit back and be reliant on China, and who else becomes cheaper than China eventually?
Trade is supposed to be about us buying Italian meats, French cheeses and wines, etc. By it's very nature it is supposed to cost more than anything domestic, since you know, it's actually coming from fucking France and Italy. What we don't do though, is make farmers here throw away perfectly good food so that we can start importing more and more Spanish cherries to fuck up our local markets. Trade is not supposed to be about us having our local economies compete with foreign economies, and point in fact, that's what trade policies are supposed to handle. We get the benefits of trade without destroying our society.
Outsourcing jobs wholesale is just fucking stupid........ unless the whole point is to gentrify the entire fucking U.S to the point where we all moved to foreign countries to survive as expats, and you greedy fuckers turn the whole thing into Dubai.
There is your utter stupidity and bigotry revealed. None of us want to actually suckle at the government teat as you so offensively put it. Nobody working 40+ hours, and who is also on the government teat, is at fault in any way, shape, or form. YOU ARE AT FAULT, with the support of policies that allow Walmart to hire people as instant-wards-of-the-state. Why does Walmart get to higher somebody that instantly has to go on food stamps? Why does a major airline (UNITED IIRC), train their new pilots to *NOT* wear their uniforms when paying for groceries with food stamps?
That's what a living wage handles, but your too fucking stupid to see the whole picture. You literally lack the intelligence to hold these concepts in your mind I believe. The only thing you can see is letting businesses loose to enact the complete fucking myth of the trickle-down economy. Seriously, do think about Reagan while you masturbate?
We won't be on social programs if we could just get paid a living wage, and government could get smaller. There is nothing wrong with that at all. We have enough money with a living wage for:
- Food. The food stamp program can shrink down by at least half, probably more. How many people on food stamps are actually employed? How many of them have full hours in the aggregate over 2-3 jobs? You damn well fucking know that all you had to do was pay these people what is required to buy food. It's not fucking complicated, and once you remove the super luxury items, most people's food bills are fairly comparable.
- Shelter. Link this directly to the average property price, and nobody can ever be hurt by attempts for gentrification ever again. Limit how fast rents can raise through good public policy, and establish a minimum for the area. That's not fucking McMansions either, but just the basic, or average.
- Medical. Stop letting businesses get away with the 29 hours bullshit. Anybody over the age of 25 getting more than 1 hour has to have a health plan covered. Period. Either that, or repeal Obama Care entirely since that is what forces people to get insurance. Jobs for teenagers was never meant to be a market in which 50 years old competed with them. You shouldn't be allowed to be paid less than living wage UNLESS you can prove your subsidized by your parents or other incomes. So part time work with 16-24 years olds is preserved, but they can't fuck with the middle class anymore.
Those 3 things right there represent a huge chunk of the social programs, and a ton of people on the government teat as you put it. We don't have to be on the teat if you just fucking paid us.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday August 03 2016, @01:49AM
or repeal Obama Care entirely since that is what forces people to get insurance
First sensible thing you've said all day. There's plenty wrong with US health care. No one disputes this. But Obamacare was deceptive, unconstitutional, and destructive from the start. There hasn't been a year since its creation that it hasn't impaired our ability to provide for ourselves (that's despite it still not being fully implemented) or broken fundamental law.
Jobs for teenagers was never meant to be a market in which 50 years old competed with them.
Nonsense. One of the many benefits to working as a teenager is that you get to work with older people (you know, the people you "compete" with). You're not going to learn maturity hanging out at the local school prison.
Those 3 things right there represent a huge chunk of the social programs, and a ton of people on the government teat as you put it. We don't have to be on the teat if you just fucking paid us.
I guess you missed my observation where my plan does that and yours doesn't? I have to wonder at this point whose side you really are on? How many poor workers are you willing to kill for your goals?