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posted by cmn32480 on Thursday November 24 2016, @11:44PM   Printer-friendly
from the soros'-programmers-screwed-up dept.

CNN Wire reports via KTLA TV in Los Angeles

Hillary Clinton's campaign is being urged by a number of top computer scientists to call for a recount of vote totals in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania.

[...] The computer scientists believe they have found evidence that vote totals in the three states could have been manipulated or hacked and presented their findings to top Clinton aides [on November 17].

The scientists, among them J. Alex Halderman, the director of the University of Michigan Center for Computer Security and Society, told the Clinton campaign they believe there is a questionable trend of Clinton performing worse in counties that relied on electronic voting machines compared to paper ballots and optical scanners.

[...] [It was noted that] Clinton received 7 percent fewer votes in counties that relied on electronic voting machines, which the group said could have been hacked.

Their group told Podesta and Elias that while they had not found any evidence of hacking, the pattern needs to be looked at by an independent review.

[...] A former Clinton aide declined to respond to questions about whether they will request an audit based on the findings.

Additionally, at least three electors have pledged to not vote for Trump and to seek a "reasonable Republican alternative for president through Electoral College" according to a [November 16 statement] from a group called the Hamilton Electors, which represents them.

"The Founding Fathers created the Electoral College as the last line of defense", one elector, Michael Baca, said in a statement, "and I think we must do all that we can to ensure that we have a reasonable Republican candidate who shares our American values."


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  • (Score: 4, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 25 2016, @01:47AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 25 2016, @01:47AM (#432686)

    You are incorrect. Proprietary software on voting machines has an effect on the freedoms [gnu.org] of everyone who uses it. This is especially bad in this context, because you must choose between not voting or using proprietary software.

    It's important for everyone to have the freedom to see and modify the source code (i.e. educate themselves about how the software works and what its flaws are), as well as make changes and distribute those changes for everyone to potentially make use of. Also, we don't want the government to be completely dependent upon some private company to develop the software, since then the only options are to either cease all use of the software or hope the company fixes problems and doesn't do anything nefarious. Governments should promote freedom and education, so them using proprietary software--something that is in opposition to both of those things--is completely inappropriate.

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  • (Score: 2) by darkfeline on Saturday November 26 2016, @09:19PM

    by darkfeline (1030) on Saturday November 26 2016, @09:19PM (#433395) Homepage

    >Proprietary software on voting machines has an effect on the freedoms of everyone who uses it.

    No it doesn't. Stallman specifically distinguishes between the owners of a computer and the users of a computer.

    >Likewise, I don't need to worry about what software is in a kiosk, pay phone, or ATM that I am using. I hope their owners migrate them to free software, for their sake, but there's no need for me to refuse to touch them until then. (I do consider what those machines and their owners might do with my personal data, but that's a different issue, which would arise just the same even if they did use free software. My response to that issue is to minimize those activities which give them any data about me.)

    https://stallman.org/stallman-computing.html [stallman.org]

    The users of a kiosk don't care whether the machine uses free or proprietary software, because proprietary software restricts the freedoms of the owner, i.e., the federal/local government.

    Even if the machines ran free software, they would still need to produce paper ballots, for example, in case of an unintentional software bug.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 01 2016, @09:10AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 01 2016, @09:10AM (#435350)

      No it doesn't. Stallman specifically distinguishes between the owners of a computer and the users of a computer.

      The owner in this case is the government, which uses taxpayer money and is supposed to be a servant of the people.

      I also disagree. I think proprietary software is always an injustice, both to the owners of the computer and to everyone who uses it. Its mere existence is an abomination.

      Even if the machines ran free software, they would still need to produce paper ballots, for example, in case of an unintentional software bug.

      Which is what I said.