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Three families of victims killed in a 2015 terrorist attack in San Bernardino, California have sued Twitter, Google, and Facebook, alleging that the tech giants knowingly supported ISIS by allowing it to build an online presence and recruit new members for attacks:
Similar lawsuits against social-networking companies have been dismissed by U.S. courts because of a law which immunizes online providers from liability over user postings.
Court records show that in previous cases, Google, Facebook and Twitter have said, while they are sympathetic to victims, they are not liable for what happened.
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(Score: 3, Insightful) by WizardFusion on Friday May 05 2017, @04:16PM (13 children)
My first thought on reading this was "Oh just fuck off". Some people will just about anyone just to try and get a payout. The lawyers are to blame too, they should be disbarred for this sort of ambulance chasing crap.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by fustakrakich on Friday May 05 2017, @04:44PM
The victims' families are actually defending the shooter. He alone is responsible, and they just cannot accept that.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 4, Informative) by DeathMonkey on Friday May 05 2017, @05:13PM (6 children)
This one is especially specious because (as far as I'm aware) there's no evidence they were radicalized on any of these platforms.
This article [businessinsider.com] says:
"One law-enforcement official told CNN that the attackers look to have been "self-radicalized." Another source said the investigation is focusing on a workplace issue about religion more than the apparent ISIS connection."
(Score: 3, Interesting) by frojack on Friday May 05 2017, @07:17PM
I rather suspect this was part of their plan for a long time. They lied on the visa applications, hid their associations with particular groups in their home-country, etc. (She more than He from all accounts). Their California Mosque affiliation, and their own Mosque-shopping should have raised a few questions.
None of their background information was followed up or vetted until AFTER this event, because that wasn't politically correct in those days.
The families are shown visions of a shiny pot of money over at the social media companies, and the lawyer see an even bigger payout. Even if they win, the lawyers will get all the money. Its still not politically correct to go after the Mosque, and even the lawyers are afraid to enter that arena.
No, you are mistaken. I've always had this sig.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 05 2017, @07:54PM (3 children)
Well, self-radicalized can still mean externally inspired. Sure, maybe he did not accept orders nor be recruited from foreign agents. But really, do you think he designed a gun wielding, gay killing, alliance swearing moment as an original idea?
You know he saw crap like this on social media.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Friday May 05 2017, @08:36PM
You know he saw crap like this on social media.
Our system of criminal justice is based on evidence, not conjecture.
(Score: 2) by Anal Pumpernickel on Friday May 05 2017, @09:41PM
You know he saw crap like this on social media.
Even if that is true, he did not have to take the actions that he did; that was entirely on him.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 05 2017, @10:05PM
You know he saw crap like this on social media.
Also on TV, in newspapers, radio, podcasts, movies, cartoons, books, music, theater, games, D&D scenarios, LARPs, tap-dances, art galleries, in-person conversations, over the phone, in SMS, shouted or mumbled by the homeless, graffitied on the bathroom stall, on the back of a McDonald's menu, and probably a few other locations I've missed.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 07 2017, @12:45AM
self radicalized means they used the internet instead of being recruited in person like the us military does. it's radical to use the internet to learn about things instead of some authority teaching it to you like god intended. are you some kind of terrorist?
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 05 2017, @05:59PM (3 children)
My little brothers friend died in a car accident. His parents went totally nuts, they blame everyone, including his fiance, "If you had just left earlier/later this would've not happened" etc. They lost their minds. And in this case some lawyers are taking advantage of the families.
(Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Friday May 05 2017, @07:56PM (2 children)
Maybe, but if it results in shutting down Twitter it's worth it.
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Friday May 05 2017, @10:06PM
Not gonna happen, Trump needs it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 05 2017, @10:10PM
I disagree. I recall hearing that the US president can send a text message to every cell phone in the country, in case of emergency. And you just know that the Agent Orange will use that if the Twitter goes bust...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 05 2017, @06:26PM
Some people will just about anyone just to try and get a payout.
Before somebody slips up and accidentally the whole thing
(Score: 3, Touché) by its_gonna_be_yuge! on Friday May 05 2017, @04:57PM (1 child)
vonClownStick has made so many bizarre idiotic statements on trade that it's brought the $CDN down 3%. That's hurt my company. Can I sue?
(Score: 2) by Nerdfest on Friday May 05 2017, @05:36PM
If the TPP passes, perhaps.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Friday May 05 2017, @05:04PM (3 children)
We've all lost someone. Some of our losses have been more difficult than some others, but all of our losses hurt. This particular group of people lost their loved ones in a rather spectacular manner, very publicly, to an enemy of our nation, and enemy of our way of life. I can empathize with them, sympathize with them, and I can be enraged with them. But - suing public media for the actions of those enemies?
Sorry, boys and girls. You've just lost a good deal of empathy, sympathy, or whatever. Along with respect.
Suck it up, grow a pair, and understand that life goes on. You're not all that very special. And, you don't get millions of millions, and at the same time dictate to all of America what is acceptable, and what is not acceptable in social media.
What's next? If a pair of terrorists meet in a national park, before killing a bunch of people, they'll sue the national park service, claiming that the park service is responsible?
Oh, we can go one better. A bunch of terrorists kill Granny Smith, and use her house as a base of operations. After the operations, the Smith family is sued for harboring terrorists?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 05 2017, @05:07PM
I think it will be that someone reads about bitcoin before the next big crash (maybe even yesterday/today's crash...), buys high, sells low, and then tries to sue "Google, Facebook and Twitter" for allowing them to read about it.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 05 2017, @10:11PM
No, not my apple pie! I'll go Rambo on their asses if they do.
(Score: 2) by TheGratefulNet on Saturday May 06 2017, @01:47AM
>A bunch of terrorists kill Granny Smith
THEN you can sue that famous fruit company.
but not until then.
"It is now safe to switch off your computer."
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Dunbal on Friday May 05 2017, @05:50PM (5 children)
Might as well sue Sen. John McCain and the US government while they're at it.
(Score: 3, Touché) by Thexalon on Friday May 05 2017, @06:34PM (2 children)
John McCain? Nah, he's a pretty stand-up guy for a politician. Obviously, this is all really the fault of Warner Brothers, Inc, for teaching people that guns are harmless tools for wacky hijinks involving wascally wabbits.
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
(Score: 2, Funny) by Farmer Tim on Friday May 05 2017, @06:57PM
Came for the news, stayed for the soap opera.
(Score: 2) by Dunbal on Friday May 05 2017, @10:06PM
Yeah. Pretty stand up guy. Especially if you're a terrorist who is looking for US money and weapons [wordpress.com] or you want a regional government toppled [o0bg.com].
(Score: 1) by Ethanol-fueled on Friday May 05 2017, @07:11PM (1 child)
Too lazy to look up but I believe the shooter and his wife were immigrants. So, sue the ICE or whomever the relevant agencies are for failure of their vetting processes, and possibly the FBI and ATF for allowing the false-flag to happen.
The bonus is that the shootings took place during the reign of Grand Emperor and Emissary to the Salafi Imam Baraq Hussein Soetoro, so it will not reflect negatively against Trump. Actually, getting straight to the point and suing Obama might be the best idea yet, it's not like there's no shortage of money from his $400,000-a-pop corporate speeches he's blathering away his few remaining smidgens of dignity about.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 06 2017, @02:22AM
Grand Emperor and Emissary to the Salafi Imam Baraq Hussein Soetoro
lol! I think his True Name gets longer every time you use it!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 05 2017, @06:25PM (2 children)
My dog died yesterday. I'm suing the internet.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 05 2017, @08:50PM (1 child)
On the Internet, nobody knows your dog is dead.
(Score: 3, Touché) by c0lo on Friday May 05 2017, @10:13PM
Oh, but someone does... it was the nyan cat that killed my dog.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 2, Touché) by Empyrean on Friday May 05 2017, @09:28PM
They should also sue the ISPs and Internet backbone providers for transferring that data...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 07 2017, @12:42AM
victims families are the whiniest of babies trying to blame society for their bad fortune and ruin life for everyone else. have some self respect. you're they stupid bitches who voted to let them live in your neighborhood now reap what you sowed!