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The CBC reports that
Previously some French's ketchup sold in Canada was manufactured in the United States, but that's no longer the case.
The company has begun ketchup production in the North York district of Toronto, using tomatoes grown in Canada. In 2014, competitor Heinz (now Kraft Heinz) closed the factory in Leamington, Ontario where Heinz had begun; a wave of nationalist fervour followed when
[...] a Facebook post by Orillia resident Brian Fernandez went viral, extolling the virtues of French's ketchup and sympathizing with Leamington over the loss of Heinz jobs.
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Batteries not included.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 10 2017, @11:06PM (12 children)
I don't know why. I like shouting 'racist' a lot!
Canada is all Liberal and Tolerant and everything, so it's perfectly acceptable for THEM to be nationalist.
(Score: 4, Informative) by edIII on Wednesday May 10 2017, @11:50PM (11 children)
The difference is that when Canadians are being nationalist, they are including all Canadians. White
SupremacistsNationalists are not exactly a welcoming and inclusive bunch ofprickspeople.Technically, lunchtime is at any moment. It's just a wave function.
(Score: 2, Touché) by wisnoskij on Thursday May 11 2017, @12:16AM (6 children)
White Nationalist Meetup: https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1486/27/1486277415582.jpg, [4plebs.org] http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/001/216/562/4df.jpg [kym-cdn.com]
Huffpost Editorial Board: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ci7V02mXIAAs3eN.jpg [twimg.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 11 2017, @01:31PM
Huh... well that explains HuffPo.
Maybe instead of going for 100% diversity like HuffPo, somewhere between 40-60% diversity might be a decent compromise.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Thursday May 11 2017, @05:43PM (3 children)
A 404 and a token black guy. Touche!
(Score: 2) by wisnoskij on Thursday May 11 2017, @06:16PM (2 children)
The comma got mixed in with the URL.
And it is, from left to right.
An Asian lady
White male
black lady
Asian lady
Looks like a black man (but it could be Hispanic)
white female
Black male
white female
Totaling: 3 super minorities, 4 minorities, and a single white oppressor. (a ratio of 8:1)
And the picture with the wonky URL:
Asian guy (Maybe? I am not really sure)
4xWhite guy
Indian Male (or thereabouts [west Asian])
Black who-knows
Asian male
Native American or inuit male
white male
white female
white male
Mexican male
Totaling: 7 minorities, 6 white males
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Thursday May 11 2017, @07:44PM (1 child)
Pretty amazing that whoever modded you up was able to tell that from a broken link... Pretty amazing indeed...
(Score: 2) by Osamabobama on Thursday May 11 2017, @09:33PM
I looked for moderations on the GP and found none. There was a karma bonus for logging in, though...
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(Score: 1) by butthurt on Thursday May 11 2017, @10:58PM
> Huffpost Editorial Board
You're saying that the Huffington Post are white nationalists, right? Because they're not a Canadian company.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 11 2017, @12:23AM (3 children)
when Canadians are being nationalist, they are including all Canadians.
Except those Quebecois frogs, and those Newfie sheep fuckers, and those conservative shithead Albertans, ... eh!
Canadians aren't all the same, dummy.
(Score: 2) by wisnoskij on Thursday May 11 2017, @12:27AM (2 children)
Are you even Canadian? You cannot compare our joking about Newfies with our burning hatred for all Frenchmen.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 11 2017, @12:41AM
No I'm a bloody Yank. I just enjoy watching Schitt's Creek and other fine Canadian TV.
(Score: 3, Informative) by Gaaark on Thursday May 11 2017, @01:53AM
Yup!
My Canada includes a Quebec that either puts up or shuts up:
Separate already or JUST STOP the shit. ,(Piss or get off the pot).
But recently, the nonsense seems to have died.
It's funny: Toronto has more Chinese speakers than French by far (French is like the 7th most spoken language, but they have to be English/French bilingual.
Stupidity from the first Trudeau seems to have passed down to his son.
I like newphies: I knew this trucker.... Buddy wasisname, dere. EVERYONE is buddy wasisname, dere, lol.
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(Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 10 2017, @11:07PM (4 children)
American Ketchup for America! I want my tater fries in the shape of and size of Trump fingers!
(Score: 2) by ilsa on Wednesday May 10 2017, @11:14PM
I want my tater fries in the shape of and size of Trump fingers!
Here you go!
https://www.etsy.com/ca/listing/289435969/2-miniature-french-friesminiature-potato?ref=market [etsy.com]
(Score: 1) by Ethanol-fueled on Wednesday May 10 2017, @11:33PM (2 children)
We call 'em Freedom Fries now, you nitwit.
(Score: 2) by butthurt on Thursday May 11 2017, @12:08AM
I tried to put "🇨🇦 freedom fries" (🇨🇦 being the Unicode symbol for a Canadian flag) as the department line, but it seems to have been eaten.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 11 2017, @12:46AM
We called them Freedom Fries while Saddam was alive.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by ilsa on Wednesday May 10 2017, @11:11PM (23 children)
It's unconscionable to let an entire region dangle in the wind like that, just so Heinz can sell us lower quality products and pocket the additional profits.
I may be just one person, but I'm choosing with my wallet and not buying any more Heinz products. Fuck 'em.
It's no 1812, but the British have saved us from American douche canoes again! I wonder if we can paint the white house ketchup red? :)
(Score: 2) by mendax on Wednesday May 10 2017, @11:22PM (6 children)
Unfortunately, Heinz ketchup is the only kind I like. All the others are not right. So let the peasants rot... and riot!
It's really quite a simple choice: Life, Death, or Los Angeles.
(Score: 4, Informative) by ilsa on Wednesday May 10 2017, @11:29PM (5 children)
That is true. I've had some really disgusting ketchups. But the French's ketchup I bought tastes almost exactly the same to me (possibly better... hard to say) as the Heinz ketchup I used before, so.... *shrug*
Also, since the topic came up, I did some quick googling and found this (for anyone who is interested)
http://windsorstar.com/news/local-news/heinz-frenchs-primo-who-won-the-ketchup-war [windsorstar.com]
Frenches Ketchup sales have apparently shot through the roof since this whole thing began. Still way behind Heinz, but it takes time for people's own stores to get used up, so I guess we'll see what happens this summer.
(Score: 2, Informative) by marknmel on Thursday May 11 2017, @12:34AM (2 children)
Agree, as far as taste - I did a taste test, since I was a Heinz or nothing kinda guy. French's is very very similar. As a Canadian, switching was a no brainer. French's Ketchup, French's Mustard and Bicks Relish on an all Canadian Beef Burger!
Do Americans even know relish is? Can you even buy it there?
There is nothing that can't be solved with one more layer of indirection.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 11 2017, @01:34PM (1 child)
Yes, we have relish here, several kinds actually (just plain dill relish for me thanks), but we put it on hotdogs, not burgers.
(Score: 2) by quacking duck on Thursday May 11 2017, @06:03PM
We put relish on both hot dogs *and* hamburgers. That's how inclusive we are!
(Score: 2) by aclarke on Thursday May 11 2017, @01:19AM
Yeah, we switched too. French's tastes just fine to me.
(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Thursday May 11 2017, @01:56AM
+1 as well.
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(Score: 5, Informative) by captain normal on Wednesday May 10 2017, @11:29PM (15 children)
There is a great ketchup made in the USA. Of course you may have to search a bit for it cause it's sold mostly in places like Whole Foods and quality local markets. It's Sir Kensington's Ketchup. It is a bit spicy as it contains some jalapeno pepper.
https://sirkensingtons.com/ [sirkensingtons.com]
Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts"- --Daniel Patrick Moynihan--
(Score: 2) by edIII on Thursday May 11 2017, @12:03AM (6 children)
I modded you funny, but meant informative. Tis a good ketchup.
With the emotions running high in here around ketchup, I'm waiting for the person to come in and yell that "mustard" is better :)
Technically, lunchtime is at any moment. It's just a wave function.
(Score: 3, Funny) by charon on Thursday May 11 2017, @12:08AM (5 children)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 11 2017, @01:53AM (2 children)
It's hard to ketchup on all the posts.
(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Thursday May 11 2017, @01:59AM (1 child)
I had to run to Dijon.
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(Score: 3, Touché) by AthanasiusKircher on Thursday May 11 2017, @04:18AM
I don't relish the thought of more travel after my recent time in Worcestershire. I do think fondly back on my Hollandaise, spent with some good wine and a cheap tart-ar... Uh, fine young lady. (Whew, I'd better watch my language, or I'll end up in quite a pickle.)
(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Thursday May 11 2017, @01:56AM (1 child)
If I was Canadian I'd take advantage of the license that lets you take with food and use poutine instead of ketchup.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Thursday May 11 2017, @02:04AM
Sriracha sauce for my win!
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(Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Thursday May 11 2017, @12:57AM (7 children)
Sounds nasty. Why the hell would I want jalapeno in my ketchup, or anything else for that matter?
Whole Foods does have a good ketchup though: their 365 brand ketchup. It's pretty cheap too (comparable to Heinz I think), unlike a lot of other stuff in that store, including probably your Kensington krap. They should just stick to laptop security cables.
(Score: 1) by arcz on Thursday May 11 2017, @02:16AM (6 children)
It doesn't sound nasty. It sounds utterly disgusting. Brand names are brand names for a reason, they actually taste good. I don't know why so many people try to compete and yet they put out shitty competitors. Brand name loyalty? As-if. I would love to pay half as much for the generic ketchup if it weren't for the fact it's usually disgusting. I'm just glad whenever I find a generic that does not taste like shit (like Dr. Thunder, Gridlock, and many "Great Value" products, though not all of them.) I have yet to find a good generic Heinz Ketchup or Coca-Cola. No idea why they can't seem to do it...
(Score: 2) by AthanasiusKircher on Thursday May 11 2017, @04:30AM
Kensington's is not a "generic" -- it's an alternative brand. Some people (me included) dislike standard ketchup. I find most of the normal brands way too sweet for me to want to ever put them on food; I'd choose just about any other condiment. The only ketchups I've ever come close to liking were ones quite far from the Heinz standard.
By the way, I'm not at all saying anyone has to like what I do. But people have different tastes, and that's okay. Dominant brands are often conventional and familiar, and people like them not because there's some sort of "objective superior ketchup" but because they likely grew up eating it and taste preferences are often developed very early. Witness the regional mayo wars between Hellman's vs. Duke's, for example. Neither is objectively better for ALL PEOPLE: it's just familiar taste associations.
(Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Thursday May 11 2017, @04:41AM (4 children)
Brand names are brand names for a reason, they actually taste good.
Not necessarily. Major brand-name soft drinks have tasted like crap ever since they switched to HFCS, starting with New Coke and then "Coke Classic" (which is why people buy imported Mexican Coca-Cola made with cane sugar: it tastes quite different). Major brand-name soft drinks made with artificial sweeteners have always tasted disgusting.
No, the reason that particular ketchup has a following is, IMO, because there's been a big trend in recent years in America to spice things up a lot for some reason, I guess to appeal to Latinos or something.
You're not likely to find any generic brands at Walmart that taste any good; they're cheaper because they cut corners (even more than the regular name brands do). If you want to get away from the mass-market name-brand crap that dominates American grocery stores and try something different, go to a Trader Joe's or Whole Foods or other such market and try some other brands you've never heard of. You're going to pay for the privilege, but the food quality is usually far better. Just watch out for stupid shit where they add jalapeno or something like that. That's not the norm. Try buying stuff made in Italy; you don't have to worry about unnecessary spiciness with that, and the quality is excellent, far better than American made junk. And if you like soda, try Boylan's (made in New Jersey). You can get it at Cost Plus, and probably some other fancy grocery stores.
(Score: 1) by arcz on Tuesday May 16 2017, @08:08AM (3 children)
Most of the generic stuff tastes pretty decent. One thing I've learned is that expensive food is usually bad. The average price stuff usually tastes better.
(Score: 1, Troll) by Grishnakh on Tuesday May 16 2017, @01:53PM (2 children)
Are you a teenager? You have very poorly tuned taste buds, and probably are just addicted to the taste of HFCS. You're missing out a lot by not being able to enjoy quality food.
(Score: 1) by arcz on Wednesday May 24 2017, @10:30PM (1 child)
First, taste buds are not "tuned". Your genetics play a large part in that. There are a large number of genetic differences that affect the way people taste.
Second, you've just assumed that certain food is higher "quality" and implied that a subjective assessment was an objective one. Degrading others based on subjective viewpoints, and even inferring that your subjective viewpoints are objective and correct is a form of snobbishness and bigotry.
You cannot get addicted to HFCS. HFCS breaks down into simple sugars, which are not highly psychoactive. If you like the taste of HFCS, then that is personal preference. Biologically, it is normal to prefer HFCS to sugar as it has a higher sweetness profile.
Contrary to the belief which implicitly underscores your bigoted way of thinking, processed foods are not responsible for the obesity and poor health of modern society. Processed foods are not any less healthy in general than natural ones. Glucose is glucose and fructose is fructose, whether that enters your body in the form of HFCS or fructose from an apple does not change that fact.
The modern obesity issues we are dealing with are not a result of processed foods, but rather blame can be squarely placed on one particular invention: The Automobile.
(Score: 1, Troll) by Grishnakh on Thursday May 25 2017, @02:20AM
It's funny how you're trying to defend yourself here because you feel insulted.
First, taste buds are not "tuned"
Bullshit. Ever hear of an "acquired taste"? You get used to things, and when you don't eat a lot of shit, and start eating quality food, you taste things you never tasted before.
Degrading others based on subjective viewpoints, and even inferring that your subjective viewpoints are objective and correct is a form of snobbishness and bigotry.
There's nothing subjective about regular American mass-market foods being shit. They have horrible quality and nutritional value.
You cannot get addicted to HFCS.
Bullshit. You can get addicted to anything at all. HFCS doesn't break down into simple sugars, it already IS simple sugars. You can't break down glucose and fructose than it already is, except when either it's processed in the liver (fructose) or used by your cells (glucose).
Biologically, it is normal to prefer HFCS to sugar as it has a higher sweetness profile.
Exactly, that's why it's addictive. Go google for "sugar addiction"; it's a real thing.
Contrary to the belief which implicitly underscores your bigoted way of thinking,
Here you go again with the name-calling to justify to yourself your shitty food choices and poor nutrition.
processed foods are not responsible for the obesity and poor health of modern society. Processed foods are not any less healthy in general than natural ones.
Wrong. Loading your foods up with sugar that doesn't need to be there makes it more palatable to Americans like you who don't know what proper food tastes like and have a sugar addiction, and all that sugar means more calories that you're ingesting, which turn directly into cellular fat.
but rather blame can be squarely placed on one particular invention: The Automobile.
The car is indeed a big factor, but it's not the only one. Mexicans are even more obese as a nation than Americans, and they don't have as many cars. Their diet is worse though. Diet is a primary factor in health whether you want to believe it or not, and the garbage that American grocery stores sell you is a big part of America's obesity epidemic.
(Score: 2) by its_gonna_be_yuge! on Wednesday May 10 2017, @11:29PM (10 children)
To hell with the US and it's products. Trump is shitting on us and violating trade agreements. We can deal with other countries.
But as a special good-bye gift you guys can keep Justin Bieber and Nickelback.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Ethanol-fueled on Wednesday May 10 2017, @11:47PM
Enjoy your refusees...er -- I mean refugees.
But you're a tolerant and diverse country, so of course the refugees fleeing America's draconian racist immigration policies will escape the gulags and will be welcomed with clapping hands and open arms by your progressive White middle-class baby-boomers.
The refugees will bring culture and a highly-skilled educated workforce to you and will all be for that universal basic income being proposed to prevent societal collapse.
Bahahahahahah! In another few years Canada will be known as "The Snowy Somalia!"
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 11 2017, @12:44AM (2 children)
Fraudster and war criminal John Kerry [googleusercontent.com] (orig) [counterpunch.org] married into the Heinz fortune. [google.com]
Boycotting Heinz will also keep you from putting money into that loser Democrat's pocket as well.
-- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 1) by Ethanol-fueled on Thursday May 11 2017, @02:22AM (1 child)
Hey, waitaminute: Wasn't he the Democratic presidential candidate? Well, shit, back when I liked them (" We should support Isreal, they are most like us and totally not colluding with those who wanted to kill us! ") I wanted Howard Dean, but nooooooo, it had to be some neocon, or Al "you are hearing me talk" Gore. And now you're surprised that Bernie was "mysteriously" squashed in favor of their anointed one.
Ho ho ho, the true losers are the ones who bought into the Democratic party bullshit after the Dean Scream thinking that things might be different this time. Nope. Had the democratic party rules actually been Democratic, they may have had a populist in the White House years ago.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 11 2017, @05:06AM
Pfff. Another Neoliberal.
Seen what he's doing lately?
He's a lobbyist for Big Pharma.
If the dude ever had a soul, he sold it.
Had the democratic party rules actually been Democratic...
You get no arguments from me on that.
I'll only vote Blue when there's absolutely nobody else running and I can't think of a name to write in.
Heh. Greg Diamond at the OrangeJuiceBlog warned about a slimy Blue running for a judgeship and I actually voted for a GOPer.
I think the only other time I did that was in like 1992 (all the assembly candidates were morons except the incumbent).
-- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Thursday May 11 2017, @12:59AM
No way, assholes! If you're going to stop buying our crap, then you have to take back Justin Bieber and Nickelback. It's only fair. Just please don't prevent Rush from coming back for another tour.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 11 2017, @01:23AM (2 children)
Don't mind this guy, he's Canadian and sad about his soft wood [chicagotribune.com].
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 11 2017, @12:01PM (1 child)
(Score: 2) by Osamabobama on Thursday May 11 2017, @09:41PM
Look, we need a trade war, and Canada was the first available. Thus, trade war with Canada.
We do need a trade war, right?
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(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Thursday May 11 2017, @02:06AM (1 child)
And Celine Dion.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 11 2017, @05:19AM
At Christmastime, I hear her on the radio doing "O Holy Night".
Say what you will about her hokey selection of pop tunes to record or whatever, the chick has serious chops.
Nobody else comes close on that one.
As a rule, I don't listen to radio stations that play Lady Gaga but the Jazz station plays her duets with Tony Bennett.
Say what you will about her outrageousness and her Madonnaesque self-promotion but, again, the chick has serious chops.
-- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 11 2017, @12:13AM (1 child)
Being allergic to onion, the only kind of ketchup I can use is Brook's, which is made in Canada. McDonald's ketchup packets are also onion-free. I used to be able to use Delmonte ketchup, but they "changed their formula" (became the same as Hunts/Heinz - presumably a takeover).
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 11 2017, @02:51AM
Being allergic to onion
Damn, I feel sorry for you.
Does the allergy include all alliums (e.g. garlic, leeks, shallots)?
(Score: 2) by Dunbal on Thursday May 11 2017, @12:27AM
Now change the name. French is too "Quebec" and the rest of Canada feels excluded....
You can NEVER make everyone happy. EVER.
(Score: 1) by chuckugly on Thursday May 11 2017, @12:46AM (2 children)
Is it made with real Canadians?
(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Thursday May 11 2017, @02:09AM (1 child)
French Canadians.
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(Score: 2) by BK on Thursday May 11 2017, @03:46AM
So if we intentionally consume more now that we know, would that be genocide?
...but you HAVE heard of me.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 11 2017, @11:30AM (4 children)
Ketchup? We use banana sauce [wikipedia.org].
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 11 2017, @04:47PM (3 children)
The whole point of the exercise is to use -locally- grown foodstuffs.
Tropical fruits are the complete opposite of that.
I was thinking that the short growing season at high latitudes might leave them short of product.
Turns out, there are tomato varieties that produce in under 60 days. [google.com]
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 11 2017, @05:14PM
Banana sauce was invented because of a local shortage of tomatoes and an abundance of bananas. I'm not a food nationalist so I don't mind foreign products.
(Score: 2) by Osamabobama on Thursday May 11 2017, @09:44PM
Locally grown foodstuffs will result in Canadian ketchup gradually changing the formula until they invent moose sauce.
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(Score: 2) by butthurt on Thursday May 11 2017, @11:10PM
Bananas are grown in the southern part of Ontario:
Terry Brake and business partner Laurie Macpherson started Canada Banana Farms six years ago. They now cultivate papayas, pineapples, lemons, guavas, bananas and more.
Macpherson said the bananas get a lot of attention when they take them from the farm in Blyth, Ont., to markets in Exeter and Goderich, where they sell at four for [C]$2.
[...]
“We don’t have to be dependent on foreign countries to supply us our food.”
--
http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/meet-the-farmers-growing-bananas-in-ontario-1.3007500 [ctvnews.ca]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blyth,_Ontario [wikipedia.org]
The area known for tomatoes, where French's is getting its supply, is still farther south, in Canada's southernmost county:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leamington,_Ontario [wikipedia.org]