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posted by on Thursday May 18 2017, @08:34AM   Printer-friendly
from the threadripper?-really? dept.

Shares of AMD rose 11.6% on Tuesday as Fudzilla reported that Intel would license graphics technologies from AMD after a similar deal with Nvidia expired two months earlier. The deal has not been confirmed.

On the other hand, AMD's 16-core "Threadripper" enthusiast/HEDT CPUs have been confirmed:

With one of the gnarliest CPU codenames we've ever seen, the Threadripper multicore monsters will go head to head with Intel's Broadwell-E and upcoming Skylake-E High-End Desktop (HEDT) CPUs alongside a new motherboard platform that promises expanded memory support and I/O bandwidth. That's likely to take the form of quad-channel RAM and more PCIe lanes, similar to Intel's X99 platform, but AMD is saving further details for its press conference at Computex at the end of May.

AMD's 32-core "Naples" server chips are now known as... "Epyc".

You have seen the launch of 4, 6, and 8-core AMD Ryzen parts. How do you feel about 10, 12, 14, and 16 cores (prices unknown, likely $1,000 or more for 16 cores)?

Previously: CPU Rumor Mill: Intel Core i9, AMD Ryzen 9, and AMD "Starship"


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  • (Score: 1) by garrulus on Thursday May 18 2017, @10:22AM (5 children)

    by garrulus (6051) on Thursday May 18 2017, @10:22AM (#511623)

    But single core performance still benfits games the most, and thats what these new cpus provide.
    Ryzen has roughy 2x the single core performance of my Phenom2 X4, you need it at peak load moments

  • (Score: 2) by takyon on Thursday May 18 2017, @12:27PM (3 children)

    by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Thursday May 18 2017, @12:27PM (#511656) Journal

    Ok, but the story is about Ryzen 9 which probably has lower clock speeds than Ryzen 7 while costing twice as much. For example, Ryzen 7 1800X at 3.6 GHz (base) for $500, Ryzen 9 1998X at 3.5 GHz for $1000+. So if you can't make use of the additional 8 cores/16 threads, it is less than half the performance per dollar.

    All of the Phenom II X4 chips have 4 cores, so the comparable Ryzens would be Ryzen 5 1500X ($189), Ryzen 5 1400 ($169), some other unreleased Ryzen 5 chips, or the upcoming Ryzen 3 1200X, Ryzen 3 Pro 1200, Ryzen 3 1100, and Ryzen 3 Pro 1100 [wccftech.com]. The Ryzen 3 chips will have only one thread per core, same as the Phenom II chips.

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    • (Score: 2) by bob_super on Thursday May 18 2017, @07:31PM (2 children)

      by bob_super (1357) on Thursday May 18 2017, @07:31PM (#511798)

      My workloads stretch to 8 threads each, with single-threaded performance and memory bandwidth being critical. Hyperthreading isn't bad, but it's not perfect.
      I need >9 cores (one for the OS) and a metric ton of cache.

      If running the $1000 chip saves me 15 minutes every time a job is queued, it pays for itself in less than a quarter (I wish my boss would finally understand that).

      Xeon 10+ cores chips, with their insane pricetags, ECC I don't care about, and slower clocks, don't have the same ROI. The "Enthusiast" market is the sweet spot for a lot of people.

      • (Score: 2) by takyon on Thursday May 18 2017, @08:15PM

        by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Thursday May 18 2017, @08:15PM (#511809) Journal

        All of the Ryzen CPUs have ECC support. Even the cheapest one I can find, Ryzen 3 1100. Some here would not touch it if it did not have ECC support.

        Ryzen 9 1955X and Ryzen 9 1955 are supposedly the chips with 10 cores. 1955 supposedly runs at 3.1/3.7 GHz and 1955X at 3.6/4.0 GHz. The price should be well under $1000.

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      • (Score: 2) by Hairyfeet on Sunday May 21 2017, @06:09AM

        by Hairyfeet (75) <bassbeast1968NO@SPAMgmail.com> on Sunday May 21 2017, @06:09AM (#512906) Journal

        It sounds like what you want is "threadripper" the new AMD chip, 16 cores and 32 threads with a reported MSRP of $1000. If you can really slam that many cores? Sounds like the chip for you.

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  • (Score: 2) by Hairyfeet on Thursday May 18 2017, @11:24PM

    by Hairyfeet (75) <bassbeast1968NO@SPAMgmail.com> on Thursday May 18 2017, @11:24PM (#511891) Journal

    But if you aren't even maxxing out the cores that you have what does it matter? Your cores can twiddle their thumbs much faster now? I only have 2 applications where half my cores aren't permanently parked, Audacity and Handbrake and even on those I'm not maxxing my cores, a few spikes here and there but the difference between the chip I have and Ryzen when it comes to doing the actual jobs I have to do? I'd have to keep a Ryzen for a decade for me to come out ahead because of the price of electricity being low in my area.

    And that is why I've gotten into HTPCs and home theater installs, because the same is true for a huge chunk of the population. Hell if all you are doing is surfing, watching vids, light photo editing and using FB like a lot of folks? Well I have customers with C2D laptops that are completely happy with what they have after I upgraded it to an SSD. Even my gamer customers see more benefit these days from a GPU or PCIe SSD upgrade than they do CPU because so few of the games are CPU bound these days. Maybe it will change in the future but I'm sure both AMD and Intel have sunk a ton into finding ways to use more cores effectively and so far no joy, we have had multicores since 2006 and after 11 years we still seem to be no better at using cores than we were a decade ago.

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