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Schizophrenia strikes hard, vicious, and late. A person with the disorder can get all the way through childhood and their teen years without any hallucinations or major disconnects from reality. Then, right on the cusp of adulthood, symptoms of the severe mental disorder can emerge with powerful debilitating effects. Until now, doctors have had no useful, consistent way to see it coming.
But that could change, according to a massive JAMA Psychiatry study published on Wednesday. The research details the first major results from a new branch of personality research that might lead scientists to catch schizophrenia and other severe mental illnesses early –- and perhaps even treat them before they emerge.
The researchers, led by University College London psychiatrist Joseph F. Hayes, Ph.D., found a significant link between a range of teenage personality traits and schizophrenia, schizoaffective disorder (an illness that includes symptoms of schizophrenia and certain mood disorders), bipolar disorder, and a group of other illnesses lumped together as "nonaffective psychotic illnesses" (meaning they include psychotic symptoms but not mood disorders).
(Score: 4, Insightful) by black6host on Tuesday May 30 2017, @04:44PM (33 children)
IMO, using personality research to diagnose a problem, without manifestation, is ripe for trouble. To quote: "and perhaps even treat them before they emerge." That scares me a bit. Considering that many disorders are treated with a throw a dart at it approach (well, we'll try this med, nope? didn't work? OK, try this one then) treating disorders before they become disorders is a stretch.
Hell, even diagnosis after manifestation can be easy to screw up for many of the disorders listed. Bipolar disorder is quite a popular diagnosis these days and has been for quite some time. I bet a lot of them are wrong. Imagine if a person was being treated for a disorder that didn't exist... Nah, too risky a game for me to play.
(Score: 0, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @04:52PM (18 children)
People get it into their heads that there is a correct way to be, and then anybody who deviates from this correct way must be corrected.
The only way to solve this problem is capitalism: People should never be forced to fund any aspect of somebody else's existence—you fund your own existence (and, of course, that means it's your choice to fund other people's existence if you so wish).
In this way, nobody ever feels the need to force others to exist a certain way.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by LoRdTAW on Tuesday May 30 2017, @04:58PM (5 children)
You're confusing culture with mental illness.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @05:06PM (3 children)
Some of the most prominent peoples on the planet exist under the collective belief that the Creator of the Entire Universe desperately wants them to carve chunks of flesh from the sexual organs of completely healthy children.
A very thin line separates "culture" from "mental illness".
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 31 2017, @03:27AM
I appreciate the attempt, however you are confusing stupidity with mental illness.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 31 2017, @03:21PM (1 child)
No, that is quite normal behavior. If we defined insanity by irrational behavior then the only sane people would be found among autists.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 31 2017, @04:44PM
... the world is such a consummate shithole.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by DannyB on Tuesday May 30 2017, @05:17PM
No. He is kindly providing us with a useful working example of mental illness.
When trying to solve a problem don't ask who suffers from the problem, ask who profits from the problem.
(Score: 2) by fadrian on Tuesday May 30 2017, @05:04PM (4 children)
In this way, nobody ever feels the need to force others to exist a certain way.
Except for those belonging to various religions. And other people with opinions. You're oversimplifying your model.
That is all.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @05:09PM
No, the model is not too simple; rather, those religions and actions are forbidden by capitalism.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by VLM on Tuesday May 30 2017, @06:23PM (2 children)
First of all in the parameters of this discussion, capitalism is a religion just like progressivism or libertarianism. If you're talking about something in a magical religious sense, then it doesn't matter if its real or not. Just like if you talk about how telegraphs work by analogies with pulling cats tails so they meow out the other end or whatever wrt radio. There's a whole world of people who think computers are magic, for example. Or putting "quantum" in front of anything makes it magic. Doesn't mean computer science and physics aren't a thing, but it does mean that some woman wearing a new age quartz crystal in a necklace because she thinks it makes windows7 immune to crashes is somewhat religious in a weird way.
Secondly the false god AC is worshiping isn't capitalism but libertarianism. Or maybe some varient of non- or less- progressive classical liberalism (like europe in 1800s not liberalism like the D party losing the last election).
Capitalism WRT survival is like saying we should have a financialization structure where fake-people aka corporations can issue stock to raise money to build factories that require less labor to build the stuff we need to live both somewhat cheaper and somewhat for profits, like weird processed foods or maybe clothes or medicines made in a factory. How the accounting sheets are set up to finance the factory has very little to do with, well, much of anything AC was talking about.
In a post-industrial world I'm not sure capitalism makes much sense anyway. Even if it wasn't usually corrupted. If your economy doesn't run off expensive infrastructure, whats the point anymore?
Libertarianism is when you LARP that everyone has an IQ above 120 and is perfectly healthy and there are no human biological differences therefore no one ever needs taking care of therefore big mama welfare system shouldn't exist and we don't need a government blah blah. There used to be right wing libertarians but they mostly went alt-right or nat-soc leaving most of the libertarians left behind as SJW lefties who mostly just want pot legalized. Dude I'm so high I can't remember the non-aggression-principle can you pass me a bad analogy to capitalism I'll try to pass that off as whatever it is I'm doing and what am I doing I forgot already man, pass me the bong again maybe I'll remember.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @06:32PM
WRONG
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 31 2017, @03:32AM
Oh man, this is the best post ever. It explains pretty much everything about you. Now I'm no big fan of stoners, but I can 100% say you would benefit SO much from a decent group of tolerant pseudo-conservative pot smokers. Preferably with a woman borderline enough to find you interesting. You would progress 10 lives in 10 days, then look back on your past self as a narrow minded small hearted idiot.
Oh well, that won't happen, so I guess we're stuck with the angry white conservative nerd.
(Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Tuesday May 30 2017, @07:52PM (3 children)
You are confusing capitalism with libertarianism.
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @11:17PM (2 children)
See title
(Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Wednesday May 31 2017, @05:37AM (1 child)
The claim doesn't get more right by putting it in the title.
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 31 2017, @06:10AM
People should gain control of resources by means of voluntary interaction (meaning that interaction occurs according to rules to which the parties agree in advance); resources should be allocated solely by those who have gained control over those resources (a restatement of the first sentence, really). This is an iterative algorithm, and each iteration includes contract negotiation, dispute resolution, and enforcement; these are services that should evolve in the market along with all the other services.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @08:18PM (2 children)
Capitalism is like communism. Does not belong to the real world. As soon as you make enough money you want to exit the free market and get to a bureaucracy that helps the incumbent. It always happened this way, it always will do. The bureaucracy which enforce communism, instead, will become corrupt. The proposed middle ground, social democracy, is a way to enforce post capitalism. As soon as you get big the incumbents regulate you.
All of this things don't matter as long as money is the world's deadliest and fastest weapon.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 31 2017, @06:16AM (1 child)
If the incumbents are the danger, then it doesn't help that the incumbents regulate; if you cannot trust men to interact in a market of voluntary trade, then you certainly cannot trust men to interact through a culturally blessed and ordained monopoly founded on violent imposition (i.e., "government").
Anyway, that's all moot; to exit the free market and begin imposing oneself as the incumbent is it abandon capitalism—the difference here is that unlike "true communism", "true capitalism" is actually possible (if only for a time).
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 31 2017, @08:01AM
If only for a time, "true" almost anything is possible.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday May 30 2017, @04:56PM (8 children)
Scares you a bit? It scares the hell out of me. And schoolkid who argues a point with a teacher can be "diagnosed" based on that argument - be it political, religious, scientific, or merely a disagreement over an assignment. We already have this to some extent. ADD/ADHD, dyslexia, autism, and more: https://ldaamerica.org/types-of-learning-disabilities/ [ldaamerica.org]
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Tuesday May 30 2017, @05:25PM (3 children)
I think your fears are a bit overblown.
If the kid is right, then he should be diagnosed based on arguing with the teacher and being right.
If the kid is wrong, then he should be punished for arguing with the teacher and being wrong.
In the first case it is a learning disability. In the second case it is a discipline problem for suggesting the teacher could have been wrong.
When trying to solve a problem don't ask who suffers from the problem, ask who profits from the problem.
(Score: 2) by kaszz on Wednesday May 31 2017, @03:04AM
Rules:
(0) The teacher is always right.
(1) If the teacher should for any reason be wrong, see rule (0)
Happy life! ;-)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 31 2017, @03:35AM (1 child)
Daaaamn, just re-read what you wrote.
"diagnosed based on arguing with the teacher and being right"
"punished for arguing with the teacher and being wrong"
one is a learning disability, the other is a discipline problem for saying the teacher is wrong?
Wow, goodbye independent thought, goodbye thoughts that disagree with the status quo.
Seriously, please realize you just wrote the manifesto for the dystopian future. Literally. Not figuratively, LITERALLY.
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Wednesday May 31 2017, @02:07PM
It was intended as a manifesto for a dystopian Betsy DeVoss.
When trying to solve a problem don't ask who suffers from the problem, ask who profits from the problem.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by frojack on Tuesday May 30 2017, @07:29PM (2 children)
Bringing it back to TFA, it does seem that their tool could be stretched in just about any direction that was socially orr politically expedient at the moment. To that extent it is a pretty frightening prospect.
They appear to have three main scales:
So disinterest, lack of sleep, or boredom is bad then?
Too bad for the girl with the purple hair, or they guy refusing to get tattoos then?
“Emotional stability” refers to your ability to deal with emotions in a healthy way, in proportion to the events that spark them. A more emotionally stable person, for example, might read about a stressful news event, feel worried about it, but be able to carry on with their day. A less emotionally stable person might encounter the same event and get derailed, unable to put aside their worry to tackle tasks at hand.
So all the snowflakes in meltdown over a lost election really should be under medical watch?
Like most behavioral science (cough) the net is cast too wide. Perfectly normal kids are given drugs so the sit quietly in school, and mindless conformance (for the convenience of teachers) is a medical goal.
Scary indeed.
No, you are mistaken. I've always had this sig.
(Score: 3, Informative) by mhajicek on Tuesday May 30 2017, @07:56PM (1 child)
Sometimes staying calm and adjusting to conform are not sane responses.
The spacelike surfaces of time foliations can have a cusp at the surface of discontinuity. - P. Hajicek
(Score: 2) by frojack on Tuesday May 30 2017, @08:09PM
Exactly. Like ordering another round when the bandstand catches fire.
No, you are mistaken. I've always had this sig.
(Score: 1) by Ethanol-fueled on Tuesday May 30 2017, @11:38PM
I always get a kick out of this medicalized bullshit: Oppositional Defiant Disorder. [pearsonclinical.com]
Better strap the fuckers down for some ECT and forced medication to reduce them to drooling vegetables.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @06:11PM
It is even worse than that. This paper is the usual NHST and misinterpreting regression model coefficients (they assume the statistical model they used is actually "True" when everyone knows it is just an arbitrary empirical fit).
It is getting even more ridiculous because they clearly know that NHST is pseudoscience. They purposefully avoid reporting any p-values or use the term "statistical significance", but just check if the CIs on hazard ratios are higher/lower than one instead. This is still NHST but now they just do it occult, quite ridiculous behaviour.
So, none of this stuff coming out of medical research is even going to be correct, they are clueless. On the other hand, the machine learning community, who just try to get accurate predictions (not misinterpret the coefficients of arbitrary models), will continue making progress and producing valuable results.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by VLM on Tuesday May 30 2017, @06:27PM (2 children)
We'll get there. Racism, sexism, not checking your own privilege often enough, voting Republican, etc.
The Soviets had a thing for declaring political opposition as the definition of mental illness.
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Tuesday May 30 2017, @08:03PM (1 child)
It seems to me that mental illness should refer to something that negatively affects the individual's ability to function. To take care of themselves, etc. The mental illness should not be a crime, but an illness.
Crimes could ensue as a result of having untreated mental illness. But then criminal laws have been broken. A court may see fit to force treatment, rather than punishment, if the crime was a result of mental illness.
While mental illness should refer to things that negatively affect oneself, Crime is the word for things that negatively affect others. Some might argue that racism, sexism and voting republican might qualify as crimes. But one's unspoken opinion, not put into action, does not hurt anyone and should not constitute a crime. Think or believe whatever you want about me. I don't care. But if I can't travel, or get housing, employment or other public goods merely because of who I am, then I think a line has been crossed. Whether or not it is mental illness, racism, sexism or voting republican. That's the point where reaction becomes necessary, regardless of the state of mind of the person doing the thing to hurt you.
When trying to solve a problem don't ask who suffers from the problem, ask who profits from the problem.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @09:33PM
Every teenage personality trait identified in the study will preclude employment in later life. That is the very definition of negatively affecting ability to function.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 31 2017, @03:44PM
that's what these scumbags pos already do to kids all accross the country with bad parents(bad food, bad habits, bad vaccines, etc.). call them adhd and shoot them up with some more poison. "they" want the populace unable to oppose them and dependent.
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @05:14PM (8 children)
Yes! Tell HR to add the telltale personality traits to the industry standard screening questions. We will eliminate all non-team-players from hiring consideration, forever!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @05:22PM (2 children)
It has been said that modern man overwhelmed the earth and its various hominids due to modern man's affinity for social behavior. Slowly but surely, independence from collective thought is being wiped out—you are either happy to agree with the "mainstream", or your ability to reproduce is significantly hampered.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Phoenix666 on Tuesday May 30 2017, @07:49PM (1 child)
That trend exists, but it seems to be a conscious product of a system of control, ie., if I benefit from a system that funnels the fruit of your labors to me, why would I ever want you to think that the world can be any other way?
There's another trend churning away below the surface of that narrative--incredible potential for productive independence. Its salients are the maker movement, open source, and additive manufacturing. Most of us haven't really plumbed its depths yet, despite our being intelligent and educated, because we're not conditioned to think that way or approach the world that way. From the moment we were born we were told to toe somebody else's line and do what we're told, to go work for someone else and give the best of ourselves to some invisible power (of whatever variety you like). The potential is there, though, to unlock the greater part of human genius which has always been blocked by self-interested parties.
Who knows which trend will win out in the short- to medium term. I know the tension is killing me.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @08:23PM
As you imply, self-interest is not the problem; rather, the problem is other-disinterest—when you don't care about others' rights.
When a person truly fights to preserve his own rights, is he also necessarily fighting to preserve other people's rights; after all, if someone else's rights are protected, then how can one's own rights be ensured?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @05:31PM (1 child)
Haha, yep. How much do you want to bet that their diagnostic criteria are (pick one or more):
[ ] Politically charged in general
[ ] Personality traits that commonly emerge in the teenage years and are generally transient
[ ] Personality traits that may be correlated with voting for political parties other than the Rs and Ds
[ ] Personality traits that may be correlated with artistic or philosophical pursuits
[ ] Personality traits that may be correlated with activism later in life
How much do you want to bet that their cure (pick one or more):
[ ] Involves uncompensated manual labor
[ ] Involves waking up absurdly early in the morning (as in you'll never wake up that early again in your whole life unless you plow snow for a living)
[ ] Significantly contributes to schizophrenia actually manifesting
[ ] Significantly contributes to a different kind of mental illness manifesting
[ ] Would be considered child abuse if not for the guise of medicine
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @05:45PM
[ ] Obey authority
[ ] Do what you're told
[ ] Don't ask questions
(Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Tuesday May 30 2017, @06:52PM (2 children)
If a commander has it in for someone of lower rank, he can report that they have a personality disorder.
IMHO paranoid personality disorder should make one a better soldier.
Yes I Have No Bananas. [gofundme.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @07:06PM
Paranoid personality disorder makes a soldier go Full Metal Jacket.
(Score: 1) by Ethanol-fueled on Tuesday May 30 2017, @11:43PM
This is correct, and has been used insidiously as a tool to thin the ranks without providing due benefits.
What they will do is have a quack rubber-stamp a "personality disorder" (well, no shit, people who participate in combat are going to be a bit fucked-up) and then accuse the serviceman of not disclosing it up-front, in violation of Article 83 of the UCMJ, then boot them while denying benefits.
There is a similar well-documented abuse of rubber-stamp shrinks in the intelligence agencies as well -- you see something illegal and/or unconstitutional going on, report it, they refer you to their shrink, their shrink determines that you are "paranoid" and unfit for duty, you lose access to all secured areas and go sit in purgatory doing nothing all day until you decide to leave.
(Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Tuesday May 30 2017, @05:26PM (17 children)
Although I eventually realized that I was hypomanic when I was eighteen, just about to graduate from high school.
It would have done me no good to diagnose me early. When a friend urged me to see a psychologist, I said "Shrinks are for crazy people. I'm not crazy."
To have that attitude meant that I was a piece of work by the time I did see a shrink.
Yes I Have No Bananas. [gofundme.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @05:32PM (7 children)
Did you just lack a sufficient inner monologue robust enough to work out solutions to the problems in your life, or did you receive pharmaceuticals for a "chemical imbalance"?
People always say "Finally, I started seeing a shink.", but we never get to hear why that helped; I suspect that just means these people finally started learning how to think critically, rather than rely on nebulous emotion.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @05:53PM (1 child)
Robust inner monologue? You mean like the voices in my head get into an argument? Yeah that happens sometimes? If they could they'd get into fights but the voices just don't have fists?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @05:57PM
I want you to hit me as hard as you can.
(Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Tuesday May 30 2017, @06:53PM (4 children)
I regard him as unethical for that reason.
I later figured out that at the time I had anxiety, because he gave me Xanax.
I've observed that mental hospitals commonly do not tell the patients why they need to take the medicine.
Yes I Have No Bananas. [gofundme.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @07:19PM (3 children)
I mean, Xanax is such a catchall drug that they advertised it on TV for years; as usual, it sounds like your shrink was just some guy with whom you talked regularly and from whom you essentially got some drugs—might a well be buddies with the local weed dealer.
I just don't get it.
(Score: 2) by frojack on Tuesday May 30 2017, @07:37PM
That would probably have worked better.
But how would the shrink paid off his college loans.....
No, you are mistaken. I've always had this sig.
(Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Tuesday May 30 2017, @10:43PM (1 child)
when I was diagnosed they were quite emphatic about how I had to take my lithium, and why. But they didn't say a thing about Prolixin.
Lithium both prevents and treats bipolar mania. Prolixin is for psychotic symptoms that Schizoaffective share with Schizophrenics - paranoia and hallucinations mostly.
The day I was discharged I went right to the pharmacy to get my lithium filled, but didn't ask for Prolixin. I just didn't see the point of taking it.
Hilarity Ensued.
Yes I Have No Bananas. [gofundme.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @10:47PM
Was that the day you became a popular street clown?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @05:39PM
* ability to pay attention to the world around you, focus attention on a task, and react quickly to events.
Nope. I'm too busy carrying on a conversation with my imaginary friends.
* ability to adjust your behavior, when needed, to match the norms and expectations of people around you.
Nope. I react to every situation in the same way regardless of context.
* ability to deal with emotions in a healthy way, in proportion to the events that spark them. A more emotionally stable person, for example, might read about a stressful news event, feel worried about it, but be able to carry on with their day. A less emotionally stable person might encounter the same event and get derailed, unable to put aside their worry to tackle tasks at hand.
Nope. I always drop the task at hand when I am interrupted by news, to consider whether the new information completely invalidates the need to complete the task at hand.
***
I'm screwed.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @07:36PM
Personally I think us crazies are normal, and everyone else is just too stupid to think for themselves.
(Score: 1) by TaxiCabJesus on Tuesday May 30 2017, @07:54PM (6 children)
> I was twenty when I got sick (Score: 2)
>
> Although I eventually realized that I was hypomanic when I was eighteen, just about to graduate from high school.
You used to play with mercury, correct? How old were you at that time?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_poisoning [wikipedia.org]
I think that most mental illnesses are environmental.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @08:00PM
CHANGE PLACES!!
(Score: 2) by frojack on Tuesday May 30 2017, @08:13PM (3 children)
Why yes, our 5th grade science teacher gave us mercury to play with. Along with flashlight batteries and bulbs and wires.
Naturally we did the first thing 5th graders would do, and spilled some/most of the mercury.
What?
No, you are mistaken. I've always had this sig.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @08:36PM (1 child)
My high school chemistry teacher played with the mercury himself and jealously forbade anyone else to touch it. He also liked to claim he had independently discovered the strong nuclear force when he deduced neutrons were clingy.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @09:04PM
Christmas tree tinsel used to be made from thin strips of lead until about 1970. I used to roll it up in a ball and chew on it like it was chewing gum. I'm fine except for short term memory loss and
(Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Tuesday May 30 2017, @10:53PM
I don't remember the clinical term. Adult inhalation has different symptoms.
Yes I Have No Bananas. [gofundme.com]
(Score: 3, Interesting) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Tuesday May 30 2017, @10:52PM
(I spilled liquid mercury onto my family's carpet. The vapor can be deadly.)
My hair was noticeably thinning starting at 14. That kind of hair loss is usual thyroid cancer or radiation poisoning. While I was distressed by it, it never occurred to me it could be the mercury. No one else brought it to my attention.
Yes I Have No Bananas. [gofundme.com]
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @05:34PM (8 children)
home to google.
also most doctors are competent to tie their own shoe lasses much less diagnosis anything more complicated than an obviously broken limb, we continue down the road of giving incompetent people huge power over other peoples lives backed up by both social and state violence, we are fucking doomed as a species
(Score: 2, Insightful) by technoid_ on Tuesday May 30 2017, @05:43PM (6 children)
I like to remind my docs that it is called a practicing medicine for a reason. They don't really know what is going on, just practicing.
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @05:48PM (1 child)
That'll be an extra $50 for the 5-minute lecture on "practicing". Thankyoucomeagain.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @06:13PM
And your insurance doesn't cover filibustering.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @07:09PM (3 children)
The problem of course is that they don't practice that's why after years of training your mostly better off talking to Lucy, they don't know and they don't get better because there is no accountability after all who would believe a crazy person that they aren't getting sufficient or proper treatment, you give the sort of people that become shrinks and doctors this sort of power they will abuse it to the maximum most of them are already sociopaths.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @07:21PM (1 child)
Doctors are required to engage in Continuing Medical Education (CMEs). Try again, know-nothing pleb.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @07:34PM
I was wondering when the white knights would come out, witness the reason shrinks and doctors can get away with their scamming
(Score: 2) by MostCynical on Tuesday May 30 2017, @10:04PM
So, is your distrust based on personal experience, or are you just slightly paranoid by nature? (not that that doesn't mean they aren't out to get you, but who can tell?)
"I guess once you start doubting, there's no end to it." -Batou, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
(Score: 2) by kaszz on Wednesday May 31 2017, @03:27AM
While medical doctors use and practice a science that have at least a good shoot at being researched and practiced using deterministic and statistical truths. Ie predictions actually tend to predict reality not fantasize about it. The same cannot be said for shrinks and humanities. There is simple too many variables and measurement is unreliable. This open opportunities for charlatans.
What I have noticed is that too many doctors are of the.. Doctor see statistical identifiers, Doctor act according to book of procedures which only contains fixes approved by for profit groups.
With good sensor technology, networking, semantic knowledge, expert systems, AI etc. I'll suspect even doctors are gonna get a slight artificial competition. Some of these things can be designed and used without any approval. So the regulation approach may become undermined as well.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @10:21PM (1 child)
It really destroys lives. Not just the life of the affected person but their entire family and their friends. Lots of people end up homeless or commit suicide because of it.
I've always been somewhat jittery about it. What if those thoughts and behaviors I sometimes have are really the early signs of schizophrenia? Have I been hallucinating?
All the evidence points to the contrary, but it's a scary thought that you can really disconnect from reality without noticing. I'm glad they've developed ways to catch it before it manifests.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2017, @10:35PM
The dancing pink unicorns in my head say you are a joke. Now you might think having pink unicorns dancing in my head would be detrimental to my executive functioning but you would be wrong. The unicorns motivate me to perform necessary life tasks by attaching post it notes to their horns with reminders to eat and sleep and bathe. Without the daily dance of the unicorns I would forget to do things I need to live and I would surely die. My executive functioning unicorns keep me alive.