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posted by n1 on Saturday June 17 2017, @09:31AM   Printer-friendly
from the fashion-sweatshops dept.

The Guardian reports:

The Guardian has spoken to more than a dozen workers at the fashion label's factory in Subang, Indonesia, where employees describe being paid one of the lowest minimum wages in Asia and there are claims of impossibly high production targets and sporadically compensated overtime.

The workers' complaints come only a week after labour activists investigating possible abuses at a Chinese factory that makes Ivanka Trump shoes disappeared into police custody.

The activists' group claimed they had uncovered a host of violations at the plant including salaries below China's legal minimum wage, managers verbally abusing workers and "violations of women's rights".

In the Indonesian factory some of the complaints are similar, although the wages paid to employees in Subang are much lower.

[...] PT Buma, a Korean-owned garment company started in Indonesia in 1999, is one of the suppliers of G-III Apparel Group, the wholesale manufacturer for prominent fashion brands including Trump's clothing.

[...] When Alia was told the gist of Ivanka Trump's new book on women in the workplace, she burst out laughing. Her idea of work-life balance, she said, would be if she could see her children more than once a month.

[...] Carry Somers, founder of the non-profit Fashion Revolution said: "Ivanka Trump claims to be the ultimate destination for Women Who Work, but this clearly doesn't extend to the women who work for her in factories around the world."

In March, Indonesia was called out by President Donald Trump for having an unfavourable trade balance with the US. The president took issue with Indonesia's $13bn surplus last year and vowed to penalise "cheating foreign importers".

Bad pay, unrealistic production requirements, unpaid overtime and verbal abuse are among the complaints of the workers. Ivanka has factories in China, and Indonesia where wages are even lower. Does textile production really have to be like this? Can we really not afford buying clothes made in humane conditions?


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  • (Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 17 2017, @11:30AM (8 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 17 2017, @11:30AM (#526916)

    Another day, another thinly-veiled anti-Trump political post outside the Politics ghetto on SoylentNews. The fact that SN editors never gave a shit about third-world clothing sweatshops until it could be used as a wedge issue against the party in power shows what kind of partisan political hacks they are. Just rebrand as a political news site and sell out to Buzzfeed, the contents of the news feed here are rapidly trending away from 'tech'.

    BTW, this kind of disingenuity is precisely the reason I refuse to register and remain a part of the AC shitposting chorus. If the editors could be honest with their bias I might reconsider my stance.

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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by linkdude64 on Saturday June 17 2017, @12:25PM (2 children)

    by linkdude64 (5482) on Saturday June 17 2017, @12:25PM (#526929)

    This site posts as many "Anti-" articles as "Pro-" articles on Trump. I am a Trump supporter but I see this as an opportunity for critical thinking. Obviously clothing is too expensive to be manufactured in the US (I once bought a hoodie made entirely from US labor and materials; it cost $100) and this raises the sort of question, "Why?" There are many answers to be found.

    • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 17 2017, @06:03PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 17 2017, @06:03PM (#527069)

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    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 17 2017, @11:32PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 17 2017, @11:32PM (#527201)

      Obviously clothing is too expensive to be manufactured in the US

      Not obvious and not true.
      Clothing cooperatives in USA [google.com]

      The problem (as usual) is Capitalism.
      That's where people who do none of the labor take a cut of the profits.
      That part is obviously not necessary.

      The article linked above by tfried
      A simple change could ensure garment workers a living wage at minimal cost to shoppers [qz.com]
      shows how Capitalists require a 4x markup on a tiny increase in total costs (doubling non-livable wages).
      Again, the problem is Capitalism (maximizing profits for those who do none of the labor).

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by khallow on Saturday June 17 2017, @01:23PM

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday June 17 2017, @01:23PM (#526956) Journal
    What a stupid post on multiple levels. First, so what if you're right? You don't have to waste your time here, if you don't like the choice of stories. The "I'm going to be an AC dick because I don't like a story" shtick is ridiculous. Second, SN is a news aggregator which gets its stories almost exclusively from elsewhere and is dependent on what people send in. This is what people sent in.

    Third, what exactly is supposed to be bad about sweatshops in developing world countries? The entire developed world went through that phase and became the developed world. It's a necessary transition from primitive society to far better modern one. Further, people wouldn't work at sweatshops, if better work was available. Sweat shops are among the best work available for low skilled workers.
  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by its_gonna_be_yuge! on Saturday June 17 2017, @03:39PM

    by its_gonna_be_yuge! (6454) on Saturday June 17 2017, @03:39PM (#527012)

    Another day, another thinly-veiled anti-Trump political post outside the Politics ghetto on SoylentNews.

    When you have a president who campaigned on bringing jobs back to America, and who elevates his daughter to be staff level, then that daughter had better reflect what her father preaches.

    But expecting the Trumps to be morally honest that way would be too much.

    And expecting miscellaneous anonymous cowards to even see the lack of morals would be too much as well.

    But keep on with your anonymity. It makes sure that you can't be held accountable for your disgusting hypocrisy.

  • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday June 17 2017, @03:43PM

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday June 17 2017, @03:43PM (#527013) Journal

    Look again at the submission, as published. Reference to Foxconn, right there in the published article. Many of us here at Soylent have condemned Apple for it's shitty labor relations. Oh, but you said "third-world clothing sweatshops". That changes things, just slightly. Try this one: https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/11/30/128245 [soylentnews.org] References to shitty and unsafe working conditions in garment factories, one of them by yours truly. Do your own site search, if you like. You'll find more, if you try.

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Gaaark on Saturday June 17 2017, @04:16PM

    by Gaaark (41) on Saturday June 17 2017, @04:16PM (#527031) Journal

    But see, it's fun!

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Lagg on Saturday June 17 2017, @08:20PM

    by Lagg (105) on Saturday June 17 2017, @08:20PM (#527129) Homepage Journal

    Do you realize this piece of shit of a president single handedly made this politically charged climate last far longer than it should have by turning everything into a rally so he can take a picture and cum all over it later when he's taking his 0300 commute. I don't like it, but SN is certainly not going to be damaged by a bunch of whores to the state acting like fair criticism of the guy and his family is "anti-Trump". Why the fuck should anyone be "pro-President" of any kind? You guys really like Trump's platform of hatred and piss-dripping terror so much that you're willing to be just as much a little submissive bitch as he is? Have some political independence for fucks sake.

    Also: If there is any agenda whatsoever to speak of with the editors - they still post the highest commented summaries when they post these. The AC trump squad only further improves the count by getting people like me to participate that wouldn't otherwise comment at all. Is it the editors not being honest with their bias? Is it? If they even care about that, I sure as hell wouldn't tell them to stop if it's so easy to spin up activity. Not that I'll ever understand why this is bias of any sort when sweatshop abuse has been covered both on slashdot and soylent repeatedly.

    Oh and for what it's worth even though I cringe heavily when I see these summaries, it's mostly because I know what the comments will look like. That's all.

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