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posted by martyb on Tuesday October 31 2017, @06:53AM   Printer-friendly
from the priorities++ dept.

The cheese on Google's version of the cheeseburger emoji is in the WRONG PLACE and that is problematic:

Responding to criticism about the placement of cheese on Google's version of the cheeseburger emoji, Google CEO Sundar Pichai said that he would take a look at the issue immediately. "Will drop everything else we are doing and address on Monday :) if folks can agree on the correct way to do this!" Pichai tweeted.

Pichai was responding to author Thomas Baekdal, who pointed out the difference in cheese placement between Apple's and Google's cheeseburger emojis. "I think we need to have a discussion about how Google's burger emoji is placing the cheese underneath the burger, which Apple puts on top," Baekdal tweeted.

The tweet ignited a debate about where the different ingredients of a cheeseburger belong. Among all the different cheeseburger emoji variants offered by various tech companies, Google's is the only version to place the cheese below the meat, according to images of cheeseburger emojis from Apple, Google, Samsung, Facebook and others, as seen on Emojipedia. It's generally accepted that cheeseburger cheese should be placed directly on the meat patty for optimal melting.

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Unicode 11 emoji candidates, scheduled for June 2018.

Also at Brisbane Times and New Zealand Herald.

Previously: Tweet Emoji 4 Pizza: #Epitome of #Convenience
38 New Emojis to be Introduced in 2016
Unicode Considering 67 New Emoji for 2016
Unicode 9.0 Serves up Bacon Emoji, 71 others, and Six New Scripts
Apple Urged to Rethink Gun Emoji Change
Unicode 10.0's New Emojis
Apple's New iPhone X will let You Control the Poo Emoji with Your Face


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 31 2017, @07:07AM (6 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 31 2017, @07:07AM (#589892)

    My emojis are all black and white. I cannot distinguish cheese from pattie, or lettuce or tomato! Am I doomed? Is there no redemption for a Linux using, javascript-blocking, non-facebook buggering techie?

    • (Score: 2) by takyon on Tuesday October 31 2017, @07:26AM (5 children)

      by takyon (881) <reversethis-{gro ... s} {ta} {noykat}> on Tuesday October 31 2017, @07:26AM (#589901) Journal

      I'm guessing something like this [mozilla.org] might do the job, although my Firefox seems to be spitting out color emojis already. No JavaScript required (I... hope).

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      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by KiloByte on Tuesday October 31 2017, @10:28AM (4 children)

        by KiloByte (375) on Tuesday October 31 2017, @10:28AM (#589948)

        No, that extension makes things even worse. A text without colors (be they HTML tags or ANSI SGR) should come consistent. Randomly colorizing some symbols breaks text being text.

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        • (Score: 3, Touché) by takyon on Tuesday October 31 2017, @07:47PM (3 children)

          by takyon (881) <reversethis-{gro ... s} {ta} {noykat}> on Tuesday October 31 2017, @07:47PM (#590176) Journal

          Opinion, not fact.

          I think the flag emojis [google.com] in particular look great when rendered in color, even at their small sizes.

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          • (Score: 2) by KiloByte on Tuesday October 31 2017, @08:42PM (2 children)

            by KiloByte (375) on Tuesday October 31 2017, @08:42PM (#590203)

            Opinion, not fact.

            Or rather, a preference. A good piece of software allows setting these.

            You're right about country flags, this is one of the few cases where information is actually conveyed by color rather than symbol.

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            • (Score: 2) by Aiwendil on Tuesday October 31 2017, @09:11PM (1 child)

              by Aiwendil (531) on Tuesday October 31 2017, @09:11PM (#590219) Journal

              If you know the normal way to render the tinctures (colours) in heraldry [wikipedia.org] you can get monochrome flags that convey roughly the same information.

              • (Score: 2) by KiloByte on Tuesday October 31 2017, @10:13PM

                by KiloByte (375) on Tuesday October 31 2017, @10:13PM (#590246)

                At a resolution typically used for computer text, there's no way the tincture notation can be readable, especially for flags that consist of something more than two fields of solid colour. Thus, in this case, colour indeed is vital for conveying the information. This is not the case for most other symbols, where the symbol loses no information by being monochrome, and often even is meant to be able to assume an arbitrary colour as directed by text's metadata (HTML, ANSI SGR, etc), such as red/green/yellow lock, which emoji presentation breaks: on Firefox it shows as 🔒 no matter what colour is requested.

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  • (Score: 3, Touché) by Bot on Tuesday October 31 2017, @07:08AM

    by Bot (3902) on Tuesday October 31 2017, @07:08AM (#589894) Journal

    😴

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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 31 2017, @07:11AM (7 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 31 2017, @07:11AM (#589895)

    Mozilla used only cheese and meat between the bread. That is a pure cheeseburger. Everybody else added non-standard stuff, typically tomatoes and lettuce. (it is not a Whopper or Big Mac icon)

    Google put the cheese between the meat (heat source) and the bread (insulation). This works. The bread can even be heated.

    Everybody else failed. They put the cheese next to components that conduct heat well and are normally cold.

    • (Score: 5, Funny) by tangomargarine on Tuesday October 31 2017, @02:32PM (1 child)

      by tangomargarine (667) on Tuesday October 31 2017, @02:32PM (#590022)

      Mozilla used only cheese and meat between the bread. That is a pure cheeseburger.

      Originally. But more recently they've added sriracha avocado mayonnaise, artisanal century eggs slices, triple-fried onion rings, 3 separate kinds of mustard, and reversed the buns (curved side in) because having your burger making a constant bid to slide out of the buns is a sexier way to present the meal to consumers.

      Next quarter they will stop listening to anyone who wants their burgers prepared any other way, because neither does Google with their One True Burger.

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      • (Score: 4, Funny) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday October 31 2017, @05:55PM

        by DeathMonkey (1380) on Tuesday October 31 2017, @05:55PM (#590124) Journal

        Well since Fox News was busy covering this, instead of treason, the other day I'll give you their take:

        As long as it's not dijon mustard on that hamburger we're OK.

        Ketchup on a steak would also be acceptable.

    • (Score: 1) by Sulla on Tuesday October 31 2017, @03:01PM

      by Sulla (5173) on Tuesday October 31 2017, @03:01PM (#590040) Journal

      Seems like McDs or Buger King missed out on a golden product placement opportunity.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 31 2017, @04:07PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 31 2017, @04:07PM (#590063)

      Needs bacon++.

    • (Score: 2) by Snow on Tuesday October 31 2017, @10:34PM

      by Snow (1601) on Tuesday October 31 2017, @10:34PM (#590254) Journal

      Interesting cheeseburger analysis, but I must disagree.

      Placing the cheese on the top creates a small layer separating the hot patty and the cool veggies. Placing the cheese on top (where it melts) also makes it act as a binding agent holding toppings in the burger. Ideally, the additional topping would be layered in a way where the most heat sensitive ingredients are further away from the patty (ie. onions --> tomato --> lettuce --> Mayo).

      Now, there are exeptions. Wendy's, depending on the burger, will have cheese on top AND underneath. It's a solid strategy, but they changed their meat formula 5ish (maybe more) years ago and their meat is not as tasty as it once was.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 31 2017, @10:51PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 31 2017, @10:51PM (#590261)

      Placing the cheese on the bottom also has the advantage of making it less likely that the bottom of the bun will wind up soaked through.

      I think in the future I may start making my cheeseburgers with the cheese under the patty.

    • (Score: 2) by driverless on Wednesday November 01 2017, @05:25AM

      by driverless (4770) on Wednesday November 01 2017, @05:25AM (#590393)

      So who moved the cheese?

  • (Score: 2) by lx on Tuesday October 31 2017, @07:13AM (9 children)

    by lx (1915) on Tuesday October 31 2017, @07:13AM (#589896)

    Now that they fixed that fucking emoji,here are some more things they should look into. [wikipedia.org]

    • (Score: 3, Funny) by maxwell demon on Tuesday October 31 2017, @07:54AM (8 children)

      by maxwell demon (1608) on Tuesday October 31 2017, @07:54AM (#589911) Journal

      It's a cheeseburger emoji, not a fucking emoji. And while a fucking emoji would probably be used more than the cheeseburger emoji, I doubt that the guardians of the garden wall would ever allow it into their walled gardens.

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      • (Score: 5, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 31 2017, @08:42AM (5 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 31 2017, @08:42AM (#589920)

        We need fucking emojis. The new animoji stuff, for animated emojis, would be great for this. Submit proposals to Unicode to make it happen.

        We need all the different positions.

        We need an emoji for goatse, one for tubgirl, and one for lemonparty.

        We need an emoji for a goatfucker, for a sheepfucker (both Scottish and Muslim), for a dogfucker, for a cowfucker, for a horsefucker, for a dolphinfucker, for a manateefucker, and for a pigfucker.

        We need an emoji for a gloryhole, for bukkake, for felching, for docking, for threesome double-penetration, and for rimming.

        We need an emoji for pedophiles, one for cucks, and one for necrophiles.

        We need a casting couch emoji.

        We need an emoji for filling a sock, one for filling a tissue, one for ruining a magazine, one for ruining a computer keyboard, and one for use of a potted plant.

        We need an emoji for regular asphixiation play, and one for fart inhalation.

        We need a gimp emoji. We need an anal beads emoji.

        We need a falling-into-geothermal-while-fucking emoji. (it happens) We need a penis-bending-rocking-chair-accident emoji. We need a shot-dead-by-cheated-partner emoji. We need a mile-high-club emoji.

        We need a moistness emoji. We need a boner emoji. We need a shrinkage emoji.

        • (Score: 2) by MostCynical on Tuesday October 31 2017, @10:54AM

          by MostCynical (2589) on Tuesday October 31 2017, @10:54AM (#589964) Journal

          Is there already a spit-take emoji?

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        • (Score: 3, Funny) by Gaaark on Tuesday October 31 2017, @11:09AM

          by Gaaark (41) on Tuesday October 31 2017, @11:09AM (#589968) Journal

          One for husband dressed like Batman knocked out by ceiling fan leaving wife tied to bed emoji.

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        • (Score: 2, Troll) by SanityCheck on Tuesday October 31 2017, @12:38PM (1 child)

          by SanityCheck (5190) on Tuesday October 31 2017, @12:38PM (#589983)

          We need a "I'm drunk emoji," I nominate "Kevin Spacey mounting a 14 year old boy."

        • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Snospar on Tuesday October 31 2017, @02:22PM

          by Snospar (5366) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday October 31 2017, @02:22PM (#590019)

          No, no, sex emojis are the last thing we need. Currently us oldies can attach a couple of emojis to a message without really knowing what they mean (personally I use them as topical pictures if they loosely relate to the message). Occassionally we'll luck out and send a naughty combination to one of the young hipsters who know about these things and they'll get a little chuckle scoffing at our ineptitude (e.g. "Ha ha, look at what gramps sent me!").

          If we lived in a world with ambiguous sex emojis (and come on, how detailed can they possibly be at that scale) then the outcome of sending a dubious couple of emojis could be awful "Mummy why does Grandpa want to push a Coke bottle up my starfish without using any lube?"

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      • (Score: 2) by realDonaldTrump on Tuesday October 31 2017, @08:42AM

        by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Tuesday October 31 2017, @08:42AM (#589921) Homepage Journal

        I say 🦐🌮 or 🐈🍆 or 🍑🌭 or 👯💦. They know what I mean.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 31 2017, @08:43AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 31 2017, @08:43AM (#589922)

        > It's a cheeseburger emoji, not a fucking emoji.
        Yeah, fucking emojis are eggplant emoji and peach emoji.

        > I doubt that the guardians of the garden wall would ever allow it into their walled gardens.
        Tee hee 🍆🍑

  • (Score: 2) by KritonK on Tuesday October 31 2017, @07:59AM

    by KritonK (465) on Tuesday October 31 2017, @07:59AM (#589913)

    More important, where do they place the bacon?

  • (Score: 3, Funny) by RedBear on Tuesday October 31 2017, @07:59AM (1 child)

    by RedBear (1734) on Tuesday October 31 2017, @07:59AM (#589915)

    I've always put the lettuce on the bottom of my burgers, along with the tomato and pickles, while the onion goes on top with the ketchup. But everybody has their own stacking arrangement. I've seen restaurants place lettuce or tomato above or below. Onion is usually on top either way, on display. The cheese though... Seems pretty universal that the cheese is melted right on the patty. I can understand the outcry. After all, burgers and emojis are both Serious Business.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 31 2017, @11:47PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 31 2017, @11:47PM (#590286)

      Need to understand there are 3 "cheese burgers"

      First the patty melt. The cheese is placed on top of meat WHILE it is being cooked, so the cheese is MELTED to the patty.
      Second the grilled cheese. The cheese is MELTED to the bread while toasting on the grill. The patty is added after the process while stacking.
      Third the cheese burger. This is the lazy method - cook meat and toss on american cheese (flavoured oil with yellow color) hope meat is hot enough to melt this low temperature "cheese".

      Give me the first one any day. With good hard slow melt cheese.
      Give me the second on special days, where cheese bread (twice the cheese to boot) then it cold and tomato soup on the side.
      The third leave poor horse along.

  • (Score: 0, Troll) by janrinok on Tuesday October 31 2017, @09:30AM

    by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday October 31 2017, @09:30AM (#589931) Journal
    Some people should get a life. Go for a walk outside. Take up a new hobby. Leave the emojis for the kids on Faceplant or Mycrap.
  • (Score: 2) by inertnet on Tuesday October 31 2017, @09:39AM

    by inertnet (4071) on Tuesday October 31 2017, @09:39AM (#589935) Journal

    Someone dropped his cheeseburger, news at 11!

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 31 2017, @09:58AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 31 2017, @09:58AM (#589940)

    it's halloween, not april fools

    • (Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Tuesday October 31 2017, @10:30AM

      by maxwell demon (1608) on Tuesday October 31 2017, @10:30AM (#589950) Journal

      You don't think this news is scary enough for Halloween?

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  • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 31 2017, @10:02AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 31 2017, @10:02AM (#589942)

    I bet Google's toilet paper roll emoji spirals off the back side, instead of off the front, the way God intended...
    Good to see some top level attention to important details!

    • (Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Tuesday October 31 2017, @10:33AM

      by maxwell demon (1608) on Tuesday October 31 2017, @10:33AM (#589953) Journal

      Wait, they didn't yet include modifiers that specify whether the toilet roll spirals from the front side, from the back side, or is standing on its side and thus not rolling at all?

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  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by stretch611 on Tuesday October 31 2017, @10:26AM (6 children)

    by stretch611 (6199) on Tuesday October 31 2017, @10:26AM (#589946)

    The best cheeseburgers have a slice of cheese on the top and a second slice of cheese on the bottom.

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    • (Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Tuesday October 31 2017, @10:34AM

      by maxwell demon (1608) on Tuesday October 31 2017, @10:34AM (#589954) Journal

      Maybe we should ask the people from Cheeseburg, I'm sure they know best how their burger is meant to be made. ;-)

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    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 31 2017, @10:47AM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 31 2017, @10:47AM (#589962)

      ...and a third slice of cheese between the patties.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 31 2017, @11:28AM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 31 2017, @11:28AM (#589971)

        ... and a fourth and fifth slice of cheese instead of the patties.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 31 2017, @01:39PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 31 2017, @01:39PM (#590002)

          You know what, forget everything but the cheese.

          • (Score: 3, Insightful) by aristarchus on Tuesday October 31 2017, @10:57PM

            by aristarchus (2645) on Tuesday October 31 2017, @10:57PM (#590262) Journal

            A "nothing but cheese"burger is not a "nothing burger", but it is darn close to an ungrilled cheese sandwich.

    • (Score: 2) by Tara Li on Tuesday October 31 2017, @02:05PM

      by Tara Li (6248) on Tuesday October 31 2017, @02:05PM (#590011)

      Too F'ing RIGHT!

  • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Tuesday October 31 2017, @11:12AM (1 child)

    by Gaaark (41) on Tuesday October 31 2017, @11:12AM (#589969) Journal

    Why is the burger round?
    Wendy's workers UNITE!

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    • (Score: 2) by Uncle_Al on Tuesday October 31 2017, @05:15PM

      by Uncle_Al (1108) on Tuesday October 31 2017, @05:15PM (#590097)

      White Castle lovers.. whatever.

  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 31 2017, @02:17PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 31 2017, @02:17PM (#590017)

    I could totally see this being part of an internal inside joke of some sort. "Everybody else does it this way, Google does it that." sort of thing.

    Good for them.

  • (Score: 2, Funny) by Sulla on Tuesday October 31 2017, @02:54PM

    by Sulla (5173) on Tuesday October 31 2017, @02:54PM (#590034) Journal

    This is all the proof that I need that Google is an anti-American company.

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  • (Score: 2) by linkdude64 on Tuesday October 31 2017, @09:35PM

    by linkdude64 (5482) on Tuesday October 31 2017, @09:35PM (#590230)

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