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posted by janrinok on Monday January 15 2018, @04:55AM   Printer-friendly
from the do-people-still-sign? dept.

It's been about a month since American Express and Mastercard decided to stop requiring signatures for EMV chip credit cards. Now Visa is joining their ranks, making signatures optional for chipped transactions in North America.

"Visa is committed to delivering secure, fast and convenient payments at the point of sale," said VIsa's Dan Sanford in a statement. "Our focus is on continually evolving the market towards dynamic authentication methods such as EMV chip, as well as investing in emerging capabilities that leverage advanced analytics and biometrics. We believe making the signature requirement optional for EMV chip-enabled merchants is the responsible next step to enhance security and convenience at the point of sale."

Source: https://www.engadget.com/2018/01/12/visa-signatures-optional-credit-cards-emv/


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  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday January 15 2018, @05:04AM (15 children)

    by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Monday January 15 2018, @05:04AM (#622433) Homepage Journal

    Why, it's my ass!

    The only reason they're removing the signature requirement is so there's less potential evidence for a card holder to be able to dispute a charge.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 15 2018, @05:18AM (11 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 15 2018, @05:18AM (#622436)

    R u conjuring the Assteller?

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday January 15 2018, @05:33AM (10 children)

      by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Monday January 15 2018, @05:33AM (#622437) Homepage Journal

      The assteller offends my sensibilities less than someone abbreviating a three-letter word.

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      • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Monday January 15 2018, @06:01AM (9 children)

        by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Monday January 15 2018, @06:01AM (#622448) Journal

        You won't believe what you can learn on S/N: TMB is in not way different by the special snowflakes.
        Not only that TMB has an ass at the bottom of his back, but he also has sensibilities!!!

        Remember guys, you can learn this kinda things only on S/N! (so maybe it's a good time to pay some subscriptions).

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        • (Score: 4, Funny) by takyon on Monday January 15 2018, @06:22AM

          by takyon (881) <reversethis-{gro ... s} {ta} {noykat}> on Monday January 15 2018, @06:22AM (#622457) Journal

          Almost time to start adding TRIGGER WARNINGS just for TMB.

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        • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday January 15 2018, @10:05AM (1 child)

          by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Monday January 15 2018, @10:05AM (#622509) Homepage Journal

          Snowflakes can suck a dick. I've been yelling at the ones out front to get off my lawn for days now and their hippie asses are still there in the millions. The only good thing about them is they're fun to piss on.

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          • (Score: 3, Informative) by cmdrklarg on Monday January 15 2018, @05:54PM

            by cmdrklarg (5048) Subscriber Badge on Monday January 15 2018, @05:54PM (#622643)

            I hear playing Slayer at high volume is the way to remove a hippie infestation.

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        • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Monday January 15 2018, @05:13PM (5 children)

          by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Monday January 15 2018, @05:13PM (#622622) Journal

          An ass whisperer might be able to tell me how many people have a subscriber badge but keep it hidden from view. Alas, guidance on this does not seem to be forthcoming from anyone in the shite white house. Single letter typos almost too easy to make are they by adjacent keys almost resulting in sharp or flat.

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          • (Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Monday January 15 2018, @10:15PM (2 children)

            by hendrikboom (1125) Subscriber Badge on Monday January 15 2018, @10:15PM (#622784) Homepage Journal

            Why is there a sharp key on my keyboard but no flat key? What do they have against trumpet players?

            • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Monday January 15 2018, @10:23PM

              by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Monday January 15 2018, @10:23PM (#622800) Journal

              That trumpets don't have MIDI interface? Or USB port?

              If not that, then I don't know.

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            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 16 2018, @01:36AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 16 2018, @01:36AM (#622915)

              Because it's not a sharp symbol, it's typically referred to as the pound sign or possibly the number sign.

              It's mostly morons that learned C# that seem to think otherwise. Most of us old enough to know better prior to MS inventing the language wouldn't be using that as our first guess at the meaning of the symbol.

          • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Tuesday January 16 2018, @01:36AM (1 child)

            by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday January 16 2018, @01:36AM (#622914) Journal

            An ass whisperer might be able to tell me how many people have a subscriber badge but keep it hidden from view.

            Badge public or hidden from view is almost irrelevant when considered from the perspective of the Funding goal [soylentnews.org]
            There are 6000+ members, if all would contribute $1/year, the base goal would be exceeded.
            T's not like S/N is looking to make profits.

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            • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Tuesday January 16 2018, @02:31PM

              by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday January 16 2018, @02:31PM (#623137) Journal

              If everyone would get a subscription, that would exceed $1/year.

              It was in a conversation about the evils of advertising you convinced me to get a subscription. For the same reason I pay for Netflix with no ads. Hulu with no ads. HBO with no ads. I could go on and on.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 15 2018, @10:58AM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 15 2018, @10:58AM (#622524)

    Except, mister snowflake, they have cameras. So, if you are right there buying shit and then say it wasn't you, then trouble. But if vendor has no proof you were there (and especially if you report card stolen), then CC just charges them back.

    • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday January 15 2018, @12:56PM

      by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Monday January 15 2018, @12:56PM (#622547) Homepage Journal

      Your definition of "they" needs work. Not remotely every place you can use a credit card has cameras.

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    • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Monday January 15 2018, @05:20PM

      by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Monday January 15 2018, @05:20PM (#622624) Journal

      What happened when someone a few years ago lifted the chips from stolen high limit cards and 'retrofit' them onto lower limit stolen cards?

      They didn't use no steenkin' cameras!

      They subpoenaed the cell phone carriers for data to locate all phones in the vicinity of each fraudulent purchase, within a few minute time range of each purchase. Then they spot which single sail phone is in common to all of the fraudulent purchases. Then pay1 them a very nice visit.

      1but don't pay that visit with a credit card

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