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posted by martyb on Saturday March 03 2018, @03:11AM   Printer-friendly
from the under-the-gun dept.

Lawmakers in Georgia removed a $38 million tax exemption for jet fuel from tax-cut legislation on Thursday in a move that will punish Atlanta-based Delta Air Lines.

Republicans vowed to remove the exemption after the airline cut ties with the National Rifle Association (NRA).

Georgia's Lt. Gov. Casey Cagle (R), who is also running for governor, had threatened to kill any tax legislation that benefits Delta after the company's decision to end a discount program for NRA members.

[...] "I will kill any tax legislation that benefits @Delta unless the company changes its position and fully reinstates its relationship with @NRA," Angle tweeted earlier this week.

http://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/376327-georgia-senate-passes-bill-that-effectively-punishes-delta-air-lines-for


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  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday March 03 2018, @06:00AM (17 children)

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday March 03 2018, @06:00AM (#646884) Journal
    It's also interesting that overall abortions and unwanted pregnancies have declined substantially in recent decades (it's around 57% of the rate in 1980 per capita for women in the 15-44 age bracket) along with overall pregnancies. I certainly don't see the reason why anyone is complaining. If you care more about eliminating legal abortions rather than reducing all abortions, you're a problem not a solution.
  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday March 03 2018, @06:06AM

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday March 03 2018, @06:06AM (#646886) Journal
    Sorry, link [johnstonsarchive.net].
  • (Score: 2) by sjames on Saturday March 03 2018, @06:16AM (14 children)

    by sjames (2882) on Saturday March 03 2018, @06:16AM (#646893) Journal

    That is irrelevant. The real issue is complaining about both the pregnancies and the means to avoid them.

    The reduction in unwanted pregnancies is probably due to birth control (including plan B) becoming more widely available in spite of the GOP.

    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday March 03 2018, @06:23AM (13 children)

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday March 03 2018, @06:23AM (#646896) Journal
      You already indicated that you think it's perverse to oppose minor evils like birth control while ignoring that as a consequence major evils like unwanted pregnancies and abortions increase. We can then as I did, look at actual demographics data to see that indeed, some of those major evils have declined over a relevant period of time in support of your argument. Is that truly irrelevant? I don't think so.
      • (Score: 2) by sjames on Saturday March 03 2018, @06:28AM (11 children)

        by sjames (2882) on Saturday March 03 2018, @06:28AM (#646899) Journal

        Irrelevant since those "minor evils" are on the rise, fully explaining the reduction in the "major evil".

        But you knew that.

        • (Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday March 03 2018, @07:19AM (10 children)

          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday March 03 2018, @07:19AM (#646914) Journal

          Irrelevant since those "minor evils" are on the rise, fully explaining the reduction in the "major evil".

          And you know that how? By evidence such as what I presented.

          • (Score: 2) by sjames on Saturday March 03 2018, @08:34AM (9 children)

            by sjames (2882) on Saturday March 03 2018, @08:34AM (#646940) Journal

            The ability to remember the last few years.

            For example, plan B becoming OTC in 2013, the ACA becoming law, etc.

            • (Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday March 03 2018, @08:47AM (8 children)

              by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday March 03 2018, @08:47AM (#646952) Journal
              What is done can be undone.
              • (Score: 2) by sjames on Saturday March 03 2018, @08:56AM (7 children)

                by sjames (2882) on Saturday March 03 2018, @08:56AM (#646960) Journal

                Yes, we can indeed return to illegal coathanger abortions and a high rate of unwanted births among the poor. Apparently what you really hate is not getting to whine and moan about poor people having babies they can't afford. Is that what you really hope for?

                • (Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday March 03 2018, @09:08AM (6 children)

                  by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday March 03 2018, @09:08AM (#646964) Journal
                  Are you reading the same thread I am? I'm getting the feeling you're not. I've been agreeing with you for most of it. When we can make a choice, such as between the current situation and illegal abortions with coat hangers in alleys, wouldn't evidence supporting your position be a good and relevant thing?
                  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by sjames on Saturday March 03 2018, @09:20AM (5 children)

                    by sjames (2882) on Saturday March 03 2018, @09:20AM (#646966) Journal

                    Unless you are trying to deny that plan B became OTC in 2013 (and has a non-zero rate of use) and that the ACA mandated insurance providing birth control (which only a few like Hobby Lobby deny after a bitter court battle), it is you that would need to provide evidence that somehow birth control doesn't have the ability to reduce unwanted births.

                    I know you may not want to admit to even yourself that your desire to make religious decisions for others is ultimately destructive to even your own stated goals WRT poor people having babies, but there it is.

                    I suspect you will now try to argue that up is down and black is white whenever it is necessary for you to not be wrong, as usual

                    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday March 03 2018, @02:28PM (4 children)

                      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday March 03 2018, @02:28PM (#647054) Journal

                      it is you that would need to provide evidence that somehow birth control doesn't have the ability to reduce unwanted births.

                      I haven't tried in the least to show that. My evidence shows the contrary.

                      • (Score: 2) by sjames on Saturday March 03 2018, @04:08PM (3 children)

                        by sjames (2882) on Saturday March 03 2018, @04:08PM (#647101) Journal

                        So what's your point then?

                        • (Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday March 03 2018, @04:28PM (2 children)

                          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday March 03 2018, @04:28PM (#647117) Journal
                          I already stated [soylentnews.org] my reason way back when:

                          You already indicated that you think it's perverse to oppose minor evils like birth control while ignoring that as a consequence major evils like unwanted pregnancies and abortions increase. We can then as I did, look at actual demographics data to see that indeed, some of those major evils have declined over a relevant period of time in support of your argument. Is that truly irrelevant? I don't think so.

                          Offering supporting evidence for an assertion is reason 101.

                          • (Score: 2) by sjames on Saturday March 03 2018, @04:47PM (1 child)

                            by sjames (2882) on Saturday March 03 2018, @04:47PM (#647128) Journal

                            So you're basically posting irrelevant information. The GOP, as I said wants to oppose all of the above even though birth control is pretty much the only effective measure to reduce both abortion and having babies people can't afford.

                            So they oppose the problem AND they oppose the solution. They offer nothing in the way of an alternative solution that actually works. No wonder they get called the party of NO.

                            • (Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday March 03 2018, @05:18PM

                              by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday March 03 2018, @05:18PM (#647139) Journal
                              Why are you still complaining? I've already explained why providing supporting evidence is relevant - something that should be obvious to you. Use that brain for something other than quickening the heat death of the universe.
      • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 03 2018, @11:44PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 03 2018, @11:44PM (#647337)

        Lol birth control as a minor evil? Khallow is a religious but in too of being a rwnj! Damn khallow, just when I thought you couldn't surprise me further.

  • (Score: 1) by Behindmyscreen on Saturday March 03 2018, @05:54PM

    by Behindmyscreen (6856) on Saturday March 03 2018, @05:54PM (#647155)

    you know why they have declined over all (but increased in bible thumping states)? Because of access to contraception, comprehensive sexual education, and more recently kids have more entertainment so they just don't have sex as much.....That still doesn't remove the fact that people have a right to choose without douche bag theocratic fucks deciding what they can and cannot do with their bodies.