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posted by martyb on Thursday April 05 2018, @06:55PM   Printer-friendly
from the banged-out dept.

A 2nd 'Big Bang' could end our universe in an instant — and it's all because of a tiny particle that controls the laws of physics

Our universe may end the same way it was created: with a big, sudden bang. That's according to new research from a group of Harvard physicists, who found that the destabilization of the Higgs boson — a tiny quantum particle that gives other particles mass — could lead to an explosion of energy that would consume everything in the known universe and upend the laws of physics and chemistry.

As part of their study, published last month in the journal Physical Review D [open, DOI: 10.1103/PhysRevD.97.056006] [DX], the researchers calculated when our universe could end. It's nothing to worry about just yet. They settled on a date 10139 years from now, or 10 million trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion years in the future. And they're at least 95% sure — a statistical measure of certainty — that the universe will last at least another 1058 years.


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 05 2018, @06:58PM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 05 2018, @06:58PM (#663051)

    Another 10^58 years? I was hoping I wouldn't need to do my 2017 taxes.

    • (Score: 5, Funny) by bob_super on Thursday April 05 2018, @07:10PM (1 child)

      by bob_super (1357) on Thursday April 05 2018, @07:10PM (#663060)

      Instead of signing your taxes, just sign the exponent.

      • (Score: 2) by RS3 on Thursday April 05 2018, @07:19PM

        by RS3 (6367) on Thursday April 05 2018, @07:19PM (#663063)

        We desperately need an "Ugh!" mod right now.

    • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 05 2018, @08:48PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 05 2018, @08:48PM (#663097)

      The first Big Bang series has jumped the shark.
      Sure hope these scientists make the second Big Bang series better (less Bill Gates love) and long after I am dead.
      P.S.
      So over Penny.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 05 2018, @07:30PM (8 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 05 2018, @07:30PM (#663066)

    So when they split the atom they were afraid they might destroy everything. Maybe this is the actual universe bomb? Forget about civilizations wiping themselves out, what about rebooting the entire universe?

  • (Score: 4, Funny) by JoeMerchant on Thursday April 05 2018, @07:35PM

    by JoeMerchant (3937) on Thursday April 05 2018, @07:35PM (#663071)

    The Higgs Boson is actually comprised of three smaller particles, for want of better names: The Father, The Son, and the Holy Ghost.

    Much like Schrödinger's cat, the mere act of observing them will take them from their present indeterminate state to one of certainty - zero or one, if you will - putting an end to the chaos and quantum superposition and finally decide if the universe will expand to infinite emptiness, or recollapse to a point, which it will then proceed to do in one Plank time.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 05 2018, @08:25PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 05 2018, @08:25PM (#663087)

    So, what you are saying is there is a non-zero chance everything will end tomorrow? :)

    • (Score: 3, Funny) by tftp on Thursday April 05 2018, @08:33PM

      by tftp (806) on Thursday April 05 2018, @08:33PM (#663090) Homepage
      Almost non-zero.
    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by JoeMerchant on Thursday April 05 2018, @08:51PM

      by JoeMerchant (3937) on Thursday April 05 2018, @08:51PM (#663098)

      there is a non-zero chance everything will end tomorrow? :)

      Always, most likely for you personally, but also in decreasing order of likelihood also for all your friends and family, the planet, galaxy, universe and multiverse.

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  • (Score: 2) by inertnet on Thursday April 05 2018, @08:58PM

    by inertnet (4071) on Thursday April 05 2018, @08:58PM (#663101) Journal

    Come on people, tread lightly or the universe might go off. And whatever you do, don't cross the beams.

  • (Score: 2) by Snotnose on Thursday April 05 2018, @09:02PM (1 child)

    by Snotnose (1623) on Thursday April 05 2018, @09:02PM (#663105)

    I mean, if this ends up being the big suck shouldn't it be called something appropriate?

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    • (Score: 2) by aristarchus on Friday April 06 2018, @09:50AM

      by aristarchus (2645) on Friday April 06 2018, @09:50AM (#663357) Journal

      Like, "The Great Arkelseizure"? Involuntary bodily function, checks out. Hard to imagine in reverse, however.

  • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 05 2018, @09:24PM (5 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 05 2018, @09:24PM (#663112)

    This isn't even fiction, it's complete fucking nonsense.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 05 2018, @09:39PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 05 2018, @09:39PM (#663117)

      Modern physics is indistinguishable from complete fucking nonsense... even before millennial physicists started assigning variable genders to the subatomic particles.

    • (Score: 2) by acid andy on Thursday April 05 2018, @11:56PM (3 children)

      by acid andy (1683) on Thursday April 05 2018, @11:56PM (#663188) Homepage Journal

      So, by that logic, all you have to do is build a computer to calculate exactly how nonsensical it is, with a fresh cup of really hot tea, and you'll be able to control the laws of physics.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 06 2018, @12:13AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 06 2018, @12:13AM (#663198)

        I think we should just arrest the particle and strip it of its duties.

        That or eject whomever wrote that garbage in the first place.

        • (Score: 4, Funny) by acid andy on Friday April 06 2018, @12:24AM

          by acid andy (1683) on Friday April 06 2018, @12:24AM (#663204) Homepage Journal

          Maybe it's time to draw up a Constitution of Physics. That way anything undesirable the particle does in future would be unconstitutional. Unless it manages to pass an amendment.

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      • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Friday April 06 2018, @03:38PM

        by Freeman (732) on Friday April 06 2018, @03:38PM (#663456) Journal

        But, then it'll only give you a number like 42. We need to give it more restraints, so it doesn't come up with an nonsensical answer.

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  • (Score: 2) by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us on Thursday April 05 2018, @09:49PM

    by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us (6553) on Thursday April 05 2018, @09:49PM (#663119) Journal

    .... Zaphod Beeblebrox.

    Well, that's what Eccentrica Gallumbits said, anyway....

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 05 2018, @10:17PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 05 2018, @10:17PM (#663133)

    "And they're at least 95% sure — a statistical measure of certainty"

    that gives me the statistically certain feeling of warm and fuzzy with wee pee value of e/pi.

    • (Score: 2) by stretch611 on Friday April 06 2018, @12:02AM

      by stretch611 (6199) on Friday April 06 2018, @12:02AM (#663189)

      Hell, lets run tests to see if they are right.

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  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by looorg on Thursday April 05 2018, @11:47PM

    by looorg (578) on Thursday April 05 2018, @11:47PM (#663183)

    So since it's supposed to be sudden and there is nowhere to run (or time to do so) this is isn't really all that high on my list of things to worry about. It's the end of the universe as we know it, and I feel fine ... That said if the second big bang goes off and there is no one around to hear or see it did it make a sound? I guess since nobody can hear us scream in space it might be sort of mute. I recon it's like the universe telling us all that it brought us into this universe, it can end our existence anytime it feels like it ... Which sort of puts things into the proper universal perspective.

  • (Score: 2) by acid andy on Friday April 06 2018, @12:04AM

    by acid andy (1683) on Friday April 06 2018, @12:04AM (#663192) Homepage Journal

    If there's a chance this could save us from the dreaded eternal heat death, then I say bring it on baby! Although, an explosion rather than a crunch suggests matter and energy would become even more sparsely distributed. I guess it would depend on how the physics of mass and gravity changed.

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  • (Score: 2) by HiThere on Friday April 06 2018, @01:22AM (1 child)

    by HiThere (866) Subscriber Badge on Friday April 06 2018, @01:22AM (#663220) Journal

    IIRC there are already three other ways that the universe might end suddenly and without warning. E.g. the branes that (perhaps) collided to get things started off could collide again. The false vacuum could collapse. I forget the details of the other one. Most of them don't have estimated times, however.

    The thing is, they all depend on physics that is not now widely accepted. None of them are really considered impossible, or unreasonable, it's just they depend on things that there is insufficient evidence for. E.g., there's insufficient evidence that things were set in motion by the collision of two branes. I know of no reason to believe that *isn't* what set things off, but that's not a good reason to believe it *is* what set things off.

    Similarly, there are hypotheses that the mass of the Higgs boson is metastable for one reason or another, but there's no evidence that this is correct.

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    • (Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Friday April 06 2018, @04:26PM

      by hendrikboom (1125) Subscriber Badge on Friday April 06 2018, @04:26PM (#663476) Homepage Journal

      If its just one Higgs boson doing all that, it'll have to happen somewhere. It could be that point expands into a universe; prehaps it never takes much space in this one though. Space would just dilate locally.

      And it to were to take space from the world we live in, the disruption would be limited by the speed of light. Not even QM gets around that, no matter how people try to interpret entanglement. The speed of light is subtle limit in the presence of superposition and uncertainty, but a real one.

  • (Score: 2) by jimbrooking on Friday April 06 2018, @03:07AM

    by jimbrooking (3465) Subscriber Badge on Friday April 06 2018, @03:07AM (#663252)

    The sooner, the better

  • (Score: 2) by Bot on Friday April 06 2018, @04:40AM

    by Bot (3902) on Friday April 06 2018, @04:40AM (#663263) Journal

    > And they're at least 95% sure

    Good, but they can pretend they know the day and the hour with no problems. If it happens outside the prediction nobody will be around to blame them.

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