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posted by martyb on Thursday August 23 2018, @05:34PM   Printer-friendly
from the nudge-nudge-wink-wink dept.

Cave girl was half Neanderthal, half Denisovan

Once upon a time, two early humans of different ancestry met at a cave in Russia. Some 50,000 years later, scientists have confirmed that they had a daughter together. DNA extracted from bone fragments found in the cave show the girl was the offspring of a Neanderthal mother and a Denisovan father.

The discovery, reported in Nature, gives a rare insight into the lives of our closest ancient human relatives. Neanderthals and Denisovans were humans like us, but belonged to different species.

"We knew from previous studies that Neanderthals and Denisovans must have occasionally had children together," says Viviane Slon, researcher at the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology (MPI-EVA) in Leipzig, Germany. "But I never thought we would be so lucky as to find an actual offspring of the two groups."

Denisovan.

Also at Inverse, NYT, and The Atlantic.

The genome of the offspring of a Neanderthal mother and a Denisovan father (DOI: 10.1038/s41586-018-0455-x) (DX)


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  • (Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @05:37PM (23 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @05:37PM (#725292)

    Sociologists participated in this study and found out this genetic division is what spurred the modern political divide between stupid backwards neanderthalish conservatives, and modern smart intelligent amazing liberals.

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  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @05:45PM (13 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @05:45PM (#725297)

    Neanderthals were not "backwards", they were egalitarian. This was among the social traits that allowed them to be out competed (breeding and hunting) by Homo Sapiens emigrating from Africa. Sound familiar?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @06:17PM (12 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @06:17PM (#725322)

      Oh I know, the whole thing is a joke. If anything liberal ideology is more neanderthal and conservatives are modern homo sapiens.

      More kids? Check for outbreeding
      Less egalitarian? Check for almost every aspect except the professed "WWJD" bullcrap none of them follow

      It sure does sound familiar, but not how you think. At least modern homo sapiens have started to realize that egalitarian societies are better all around and thus you backwards conservatives are getting "out competed" ideologically. So sad, much crying.

      • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @06:23PM (9 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @06:23PM (#725326)

        It sure does sound familiar, but not how you think. At least modern homo sapiens have started to realize that egalitarian societies are better all around and thus you backwards conservatives are getting "out competed" ideologically. So sad, much crying.

        Bit late for you to start crying about it when you need mass immigration from primitive, patriarchal societies just to maintain population.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @06:51PM (5 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @06:51PM (#725342)

          *WOOOOOSH*

          • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @07:03PM (4 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @07:03PM (#725348)

            Ahhh, the wooshing sound. Often heard when placing an empty sea shell to ones ear or when a liberal opens their mouth.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @07:08PM (3 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @07:08PM (#725355)

              I'm sorry you were born into a family of idiots, maybe next lifetime you'll get parents that read to you as a child and your reading comprehension won't be so atrocious (bad).

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @08:01PM (2 children)

                by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @08:01PM (#725380)

                Wrong again. We are unrelated.

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @08:23PM (1 child)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @08:23PM (#725387)

                  Thank FSM! I like being able to think for myself.

                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @08:35PM

                    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @08:35PM (#725392)

                    Now go and put your colander on.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @07:28PM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @07:28PM (#725366)

          Why must we maintain population?

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @08:05PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @08:05PM (#725382)

            So the crooks in politics and finance have people to steal from.

          • (Score: 2) by MostCynical on Thursday August 23 2018, @09:07PM

            by MostCynical (2589) on Thursday August 23 2018, @09:07PM (#725406) Journal

            Because the economists demand growth.
            Politicians listen to economists.

            Bit like Macbeth and the witches, really, only economists probably only kill an occasional goat or chicken to read the entrails.

            --
            "I guess once you start doubting, there's no end to it." -Batou, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
      • (Score: 1) by khallow on Friday August 24 2018, @11:58AM (1 child)

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Friday August 24 2018, @11:58AM (#725753) Journal

        At least modern homo sapiens have started to realize that egalitarian societies are better all around and thus you backwards conservatives are getting "out competed" ideologically.

        Interesting how basic principles aren't established here. For example, what societies are actually egalitarian in the first place? Just because someone advertises something as egalitarian (or some other positive label) doesn't make it so.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 24 2018, @01:14PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 24 2018, @01:14PM (#725777)

          You've actually spoken to some neanderthals?! What were they like?

  • (Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @05:53PM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @05:53PM (#725304)

    ... versus dying one's hair blue to protest reality, gorging on fatty foods to protest fat shaming, and whinging about the "tampon tax".

    Why do the smartest, most productive regions of a country have "liberal" politics? Because that's where the money is. Leftists can't rob poor people to fund their stupid ideas, so they occupy the spaces of the wealth creators—they sleep under their bridges, and flood into their urban centers, and hide illegal aliens, and reproduce beyond their means, all the while abusing Democracy's fatal flaw: The giving of an equal voice to unequal people.

    Democracy always ends up being 2 wolves and 1 sheep voting on what's for dinner.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @06:05PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @06:05PM (#725313)

      That's a... interesting theory.

      *coughcorrelationcausationcough*

    • (Score: 3, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @06:48PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @06:48PM (#725339)

      As opposed to conservatives who are all wolves who pretend not to steal but then do it anyway and claim it never happened. And if it did happen it wasn't illegal. And if it was illegal you sheep deserved it for stealing all the ecomonies. E.. economies..

      • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @07:22PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @07:22PM (#725361)

        "Touché"? Seriously? That rambling nonsense doesn't even come close to his parent's post.

        • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @08:26PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @08:26PM (#725388)

          lololol, and you thought the parent was NOT a rambling bunch of propaganda garbage?

          Oh woman, the sheeple around here that just suck on the teet of Lord Bannon are pretty hilarious.

  • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @07:47PM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @07:47PM (#725374)

    In reality, all this proves is that Neanderthal women were really hot.

    (most of us knew that already ;-)

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @08:31PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @08:31PM (#725390)

      Ayyy, someone that can roll with a joke!

      I'll cop to being a bit of a trollish asshole for the OP, but after a while on this site I'm leaning more towards "if you can't beat em' join em'" by which I mean sink to their level of rhetoric.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @08:43PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23 2018, @08:43PM (#725397)

        > sink to their level of rhetoric.

        Not even close.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 24 2018, @02:35AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 24 2018, @02:35AM (#725562)
      or many guys will fuck almost anything.