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posted by chromas on Wednesday September 05 2018, @03:20PM   Printer-friendly
from the garbage-patch-kid dept.

Forbes:

A massive cleanup of plastic in the seas will begin in the Pacific Ocean, by way of Alameda, California. The Ocean Cleanup, an effort that's been five years in the making, plans to launch its beta cleanup system, a 600-meter (almost 2,000-foot) long floater that can collect about five tons of ocean plastic per month.

It's a start. The launch date is September 8, and the Great Pacific Garbage Patch being targeted is more than 1,000 nautical miles from the launch point and on the move.

The Ocean Cleanup plans to monitor the performance of the beta, called System 001, and have an improved fleet of 60 more units skimming the ocean for plastics in about a year a half. The ultimate goal of the project, founded by Dutch inventor Boyan Slat when he was 18, is to clean up 50% of the patch in five years, with a 90% reduction by 2040.

[...] The total cost of System 001 is about 21 million euros ($24.6 million U.S.), according to a rep for startup. That includes design, development, production, assembly and monitoring during the first year of operation.

Once the scale-up is complete and the fleet of 60 is in place, the organization plans to continue operations with help from the proceeds of recycled plastic. Plans are to make products using ocean plastic, so people can support the cleanup that way.

[...] The system takes advantage of natural oceanic forces to catch and concentrate the plastic.

You might liken it to one of those self-directing pool cleaners, on a larger scale. Or a big Roomba cleaning robot.


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  • (Score: 2) by YeaWhatevs on Wednesday September 05 2018, @03:51PM (16 children)

    by YeaWhatevs (5623) on Wednesday September 05 2018, @03:51PM (#730786)

    You can't just remove the plastics without also disturbing the ecosystem. I saw on one of those nature shows that floating seaweed, garbage, etc is a sanctuary for smaller fish and a reason many of the fish exist in an area around it. Maybe they should also add some floating sanctuaries in order to offset the cleanup they are doing. Perhaps they could melt the plastics together into floating clumps to offset the cost.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 05 2018, @03:58PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 05 2018, @03:58PM (#730790)

      Sargasso sea. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sargasso_Sea [wikipedia.org]

    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by takyon on Wednesday September 05 2018, @04:00PM (13 children)

      by takyon (881) <reversethis-{gro ... s} {ta} {noykat}> on Wednesday September 05 2018, @04:00PM (#730792) Journal

      Cleaned, decommissioned ships could make for a good reef. Plastic bits floating at the top of the ocean aren't a good habitat, and can accumulate in the stomachs of fish, whales, dolphins, and sharks, causing them to die.

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      • (Score: 3, Funny) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday September 05 2018, @04:45PM (9 children)

        by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Wednesday September 05 2018, @04:45PM (#730805) Homepage Journal

        Oh sure, take the side of the multi-cellular critters over the microbes, you horrible sizeist, you!

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 05 2018, @05:41PM (3 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 05 2018, @05:41PM (#730839)

          Take a good look buzzy my boy, you have sunk lower than i thought possible. You in bed with Big Pepsi now?

          • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday September 05 2018, @06:02PM (2 children)

            by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Wednesday September 05 2018, @06:02PM (#730859) Homepage Journal

            I'm always for the little guy, yo. And it don't get much littler than microbes.

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            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 05 2018, @09:36PM (1 child)

              by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 05 2018, @09:36PM (#730969)

              So you're pro-virii and bacteria? To your own demise?

              • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday September 06 2018, @12:18AM

                by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Thursday September 06 2018, @12:18AM (#731034) Homepage Journal

                You can't be an admin and be pro-virus. I'm a big fan of bacteria though. The good ones make me poop good and the bad ones make my immune system outstanding. Yeast is probably my favorite microorganism though, for obvious reasons.

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        • (Score: 3, Touché) by Thexalon on Wednesday September 05 2018, @08:47PM (4 children)

          by Thexalon (636) on Wednesday September 05 2018, @08:47PM (#730946)

          Oh sure, take the side of the multi-cellular critters over the microbes

          I certainly do, on a regular basis. It's called soap.

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          • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Wednesday September 05 2018, @10:02PM (3 children)

            by Phoenix666 (552) on Wednesday September 05 2018, @10:02PM (#730975) Journal

            Soap is bad. It makes your microbiome angry, and the little critters take it out on your body in various ways. Take care of your microbiome instead, and your microbiome will take care of you.

            Hot water, and some kind of implement to exfoliate (scrubby cloth, pumice, sandstone, etc) is all you need. You'll smell better, and feel better. Honest.

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            • (Score: 3, Funny) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday September 05 2018, @10:25PM (2 children)

              by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Wednesday September 05 2018, @10:25PM (#730990) Journal

              For real? Even good ol' Dr. Bronner's peppermint soap is bad?

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              • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Thursday September 06 2018, @02:33PM (1 child)

                by Phoenix666 (552) on Thursday September 06 2018, @02:33PM (#731321) Journal

                Haha, yeah, I chuckle when I think of how New-Agey and hippy-dippy it is of me, because I'm not like that. But my working theory is soap causes a general state of inflammation in your body. Your skin is an ecosystem, and exposing it to soap destabilizes it. It's the same idea they have begun to research in recent years about how anti-biotics don't just kill all the harmful bacteria in your body, but all the beneficial bacteria as well.

                For normal hygiene, water is a remarkably effective cleaning agent. Hot water is even better. Combine it with exfoliation, as vigorous or gentle as you wish, and you'll be squeaky clean. As a bonus, when you don't use soap your skin doesn't dry out and you don't have to then slather yourself with a lotion or some other suite of chemicals to try to repair the damage.

                No, I haven't run a double-blind study on it. I am in no way qualified as a medical professional or anything else of the kind; even if I were nobody in the world would fund such a study because there's no profit in it.

                But I can say I have been doing it for two years now, and have experienced several benefits. First, all my seasonal allergies have disappeared. No more sneezing and coughing and itchy eyes in the spring, or in the fall. Second, my skin and hair are in better condition than they've ever been. Women compliment me on my skin regularly, and that's unusual because I'm a heterosexual man who uses no products of any kind. I used to have dry, brittle hair, and now it's lustrous. Third, I smell better. My wife is the olfactory equivalent of a super taster, and now reports I smell better than our nine-year old daughter.

                Now, I don't know how it would work if you had long hair. Mine's short, so it's easy to wash. People with long hair might have trouble. Also, if you are exposed to extraordinary dirt (say, if you're replacing a septic tank or something) or chemicals, I would still use soap. I still wash my hands with soap when cooking, after using the facilities, or after riding the NYC subway. But for ordinary hygiene I don't use it at all anymore.

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                • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday September 06 2018, @06:09PM

                  by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Thursday September 06 2018, @06:09PM (#731431) Journal

                  Yeah mine is waaaaaay long, like "haven't cut it in a quarter century, just get it cleaned up every couple months" long. Like, "down to my knees" long. So it gets a wash every 3 days in winter, every 2 days in summer, or any time i work up a serious sweat. Drying it is way more of a PITA than washing.

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      • (Score: 4, Funny) by driverless on Wednesday September 05 2018, @07:43PM (1 child)

        by driverless (4770) on Wednesday September 05 2018, @07:43PM (#730917)

        a 600-meter (almost 2,000-foot) long floater

        Holy shit, literally! The biggest floater I've ever squeezed out was maybe 8-10 inches, what sort of unholy beast would produce a 2,000-foot floater?

        ObMod suggestion: -9000 Tasteless.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 05 2018, @08:14PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 05 2018, @08:14PM (#730934)

          what sort of unholy beast would produce a 2,000-foot floater?

          Could be a Zorah Magdaros [wikia.com].

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 06 2018, @02:09AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 06 2018, @02:09AM (#731095)

        Sunken ships do make excellent reefs, but they make for terrible flotsam. The difference is that floating trash has some benefits (and drawbacks of course) to surface fish who are evolved to use flotsam, while reefs don't help those fish at all.

    • (Score: 3, Funny) by linkdude64 on Wednesday September 05 2018, @06:28PM

      by linkdude64 (5482) on Wednesday September 05 2018, @06:28PM (#730880)

      "But the children are having so much fun playing in the radioactive waste..."

      Not worth it, not even close.

  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by DannyB on Wednesday September 05 2018, @05:24PM (2 children)

    by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday September 05 2018, @05:24PM (#730821) Journal

    I wonder if anyone will clean up the junk in orbit.

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    • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Wednesday September 05 2018, @05:37PM (1 child)

      by Freeman (732) on Wednesday September 05 2018, @05:37PM (#730832) Journal

      Sure, when it gets as bad as the stuff in the ocean.

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      • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Wednesday September 05 2018, @06:01PM

        by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday September 05 2018, @06:01PM (#730857) Journal

        Maybe the junk in orbit could sink the stuff in the ocean.

        There's a hole in the bottom of the sea.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 05 2018, @05:27PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 05 2018, @05:27PM (#730825)

    A lot of sea food is contaminated with decomposed microscopic plastic particles including the sea salt.

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Phoenix666 on Wednesday September 05 2018, @10:04PM

      by Phoenix666 (552) on Wednesday September 05 2018, @10:04PM (#730977) Journal

      I betcha we inhale more microscopic plastic particles as dust created by mechanical reduction than we ever ingest.

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  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 05 2018, @05:32PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 05 2018, @05:32PM (#730828)

    Hm, I was curious about their numbers.

    a 600-meter (almost 2,000-foot) long floater that can collect about five tons of ocean plastic per month.

    ... plans to monitor the performance of the beta, called System 001, and have an improved fleet of 60 more units skimming the ocean for plastics in about a year a half. The ultimate goal of the project, founded by Dutch inventor Boyan Slat when he was 18, is to clean up 50% of the patch in five years, with a 90% reduction by 2040.

    Looks like these guys are the only group that's made an actual estimate of the amount of garbage in the pacific garbage patch. They say there's 80,000 tonnes to clean up. That's actually way less than I expected.

    Anyway, assuming the 80,000 tonne number is real and the vessel performs as well as expected a fleet of 60 ships is about right to achieve their goal. Cool.

    • (Score: 2) by quietus on Thursday September 06 2018, @10:34AM

      by quietus (6328) on Thursday September 06 2018, @10:34AM (#731234) Journal

      I too was intrigued by the numbers -- as the Garbage Patch is generally portrayed as floating islands of plastic.

      The number of 80,000 tonnes is valid: however, global plastic production per year now stands at 335 million ton [statista.com]. If only 1 percent of that ends in rivers and seas, annually, you're looking at a 3 million ton problem -- as plastic generally floats, the question is where that all ends up.

  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 05 2018, @05:39PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 05 2018, @05:39PM (#730837)

    Global warming is bullshit, damn hippies throwing a fit over some garbage in the ocean. You know how big the ocean is? We are becoming a third world shithole populated by pussies. MAGA MAGA MAGA you suckers!

    There is a non zero chance this comment is stupid.

  • (Score: 1) by CheesyMoo on Wednesday September 05 2018, @06:02PM (2 children)

    by CheesyMoo (6853) on Wednesday September 05 2018, @06:02PM (#730860)

    Glad to see this happening, of course its not just ugly and bad for the fish, the microplastics severely effect the ocean's plankton, the basis of the entire planets food web (and producers of 50-70% (figure under debate) of the Earth's oxygen)

    Indeed you can't really remove the plastic without also grabbing some sea-life. It makes me think of getting your teeth cleaned at the dentist, leaving the plaque/tartar on your teeth is worse than taking the hit and getting a few scrapes (but thats what the dentist tells me, just like the barber thinks I need a haircut). But to continue the argument with myself, the plastic gyre in the ocean is a problem looking for a solution, not the other way around...

    • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Wednesday September 05 2018, @10:06PM (1 child)

      by Phoenix666 (552) on Wednesday September 05 2018, @10:06PM (#730978) Journal

      If somebody can figure out a good use for the plastic, like plastic lumber or something, we could look at it like resource extraction.

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      • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday September 06 2018, @12:21AM

        by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Thursday September 06 2018, @12:21AM (#731035) Homepage Journal

        We already can. The average US household would have to replace the majority of the items contained in the house if plastics suddenly disappeared. They're absolutely essential for anything approaching a modern western lifestyle.

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