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posted by chromas on Monday September 10 2018, @10:22PM   Printer-friendly
from the GOD-MODE dept.

Terry Davis, the schizophrenic individual who was tasked by God to create the TempleOS operating system (and spent over 12 years single handedly doing so) was killed by a train in Oregon (link: https://www.resetera.com/threads/templeos-creator-terry-davis-dies-during-his-great-western-adventure.65752/ )

Details remain sketchy and the death has been largely unnoticed other than by his followers and family. Some speculation is that it was suicide.

An older motherboard article about Terry and TempleOS : https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/wnj43x/gods-lonely-programmer

"A constructive look at TempleOS" goes into some of what makes the OS interesting : http://www.codersnotes.com/notes/a-constructive-look-at-templeos/

Link to the free and public domain Temple OS: http://templeos.org/

Have any Soylentils ever installed and played with TempleOS?


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  • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 10 2018, @10:23PM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 10 2018, @10:23PM (#732948)

    [Content Warning: Imagine ethanol-fuelled found God and wrote an OS] ...

    RIP Terry A Davis.

    • (Score: 4, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 10 2018, @10:47PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 10 2018, @10:47PM (#732955)

      RIP.

      I guess this means that Yahweh has declared Temple OS to be feature complete.

    • (Score: 2) by dast on Monday September 10 2018, @11:55PM (1 child)

      by dast (1633) on Monday September 10 2018, @11:55PM (#732979)

      Damn... I remember reading something about this guy some years back, but I didn't catch the fact that he's so racist. Poor guy.

      • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 11 2018, @12:17AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 11 2018, @12:17AM (#732987)

        Everybody has intrusive thoughts, [wikipedia.org] but the paranoia of schizophrenia means the sufferer ends up internalizing them.

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Subsentient on Tuesday September 11 2018, @07:04AM

      by Subsentient (1111) on Tuesday September 11 2018, @07:04AM (#733069) Homepage Journal

      Guess the "glow in the dark CIA niggers" finally got him lmao.
      In all seriousness, he was a brilliant man and a source of comedy for me, and I'm genuinely sad he's gone.

      --
      "It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." -Jiddu Krishnamurti
  • (Score: 2) by takyon on Monday September 10 2018, @10:35PM (4 children)

    by takyon (881) <{takyon} {at} {soylentnews.org}> on Monday September 10 2018, @10:35PM (#732951) Journal

    https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/wnj43x/gods-lonely-programmer [vice.com]

    The best thing Bill Gates could do to save lives, God says, is work on earthquake prediction.

    Google and Harvard use AI to predict earthquake aftershocks [engadget.com]

    whooooaaaa

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    [SIG] 10/28/2017: Soylent Upgrade v14 [soylentnews.org]
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 10 2018, @10:46PM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 10 2018, @10:46PM (#732954)

      Considering how much money Gate's charity spent on Haiti's disaster recovery, I'd say "best" aside, it would have been the most efficient solution for them to figure this out ahead of the earthquakes.

      • (Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Tuesday September 11 2018, @02:13AM (2 children)

        by MichaelDavidCrawford (2339) Subscriber Badge <mdcrawford@gmail.com> on Tuesday September 11 2018, @02:13AM (#733012) Homepage Journal

        - there.

        When I told Med that the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation was handing out free mosquito nets in Africa, I was at the time under the impression they were doing so all over Africa.

        No.

        It's just a few countries.

        Surely there is some procedure to help out Med and his countrymen?

        --
        Yes I Have No Bananas. [gofundme.com]
        • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 11 2018, @10:05AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 11 2018, @10:05AM (#733087)

          Surely there is some procedure to help out Med and his countrymen?

          Get the Sierra Leone government to sign a nice juicy contract with Microsoft, and I'm sure the "donations" will come thick and fast after.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 11 2018, @01:46PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 11 2018, @01:46PM (#733139)

          With or without smallpox?

  • (Score: 2, Interesting) by SomeGuy on Monday September 10 2018, @10:53PM (7 children)

    by SomeGuy (5632) on Monday September 10 2018, @10:53PM (#732958)

    Of course, I respect that this guy had a genuine illness... so what's everyone else's excuse? :P

    Still it's great that he must have had supportive people so he could have the time to build such an OS. Sometimes it is important to do what you feel you must, even if you don't understand why.

    There is so little OS innovation these days, it is interesting to see a truly unique take on the matter.

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 10 2018, @11:05PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 10 2018, @11:05PM (#732967)

      You say there is little innovation in OSes these days, but what do you think an OS needs to do?
      Fundamentally, it's there to launch/kill/manage tasks and IO.
      (And yes, using all the well-known mechanisms to enable this like virtual memory, etc.)
      It just seems like a fully explored field. Applications are another story...

      • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 10 2018, @11:15PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 10 2018, @11:15PM (#732970)

        Ok, sorry, I read the article this time.

        I see the guy wrote more than an OS for this machine, and at the same time less than what we would consider an OS these days.
        It is something of a throwback to the 8 bit (and early 16 bit) microcomputer era: a complete system for using the machine. Not scalable in many senses. Superceded by the systems that came after the 8 bit computers, after DOS.

      • (Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Tuesday September 11 2018, @02:39AM

        by MichaelDavidCrawford (2339) Subscriber Badge <mdcrawford@gmail.com> on Tuesday September 11 2018, @02:39AM (#733025) Homepage Journal

        It was the first with a heirarchical filesystem, for example.

        I expect the reason it wasn't more widely used was that it only ran on a specific kind of box.

        --
        Yes I Have No Bananas. [gofundme.com]
    • (Score: 2, Interesting) by DECbot on Monday September 10 2018, @11:15PM (3 children)

      by DECbot (832) on Monday September 10 2018, @11:15PM (#732971) Journal

      I read the second review link for the OS (http://www.codersnotes.com/notes/a-constructive-look-at-templeos/ [codersnotes.com]. It definitely had some interesting ideas. It sounds like something I'd want to play around with on a Raspberry Pi. Would I every want to put it on the internet or network? Hell no--everything runs on ring 0. I don't trust myself enough to run everything ring 0, why should I trust the internet?

      --
      cats~$ sudo chown -R us /home/base
      • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Tuesday September 11 2018, @04:06AM

        by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday September 11 2018, @04:06AM (#733052) Journal

        If there'd not be the (lack of any) security concerns, I can see it as an excellent case for running on embedded device.
        But... image it in the IoT context.

        --
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
      • (Score: 2) by shortscreen on Tuesday September 11 2018, @09:51AM (1 child)

        by shortscreen (2252) on Tuesday September 11 2018, @09:51AM (#733083) Journal

        Did you miss the part about it not having any networking functionality?

        TempleOS reminds me of the BASIC interpreters and other apps that '80s microcomputers included in ROM. For instance, the Coleco ADAM had a word processor, my MSX computer has a calendar, there was a Yamaha one with a music composer. I've always thought that the system boot ROM should contain some useful stuff (if not a BASIC or other language interpreter then at least a hex/sector editor or maybe a terminal program). It was funny that Amiga shipped with a relatively huge 512KB of ROM but it still couldn't do anything without a workbench floppy.

        TempleOS is a bit bigger at 16MB, but it looks like it's a bootable ISO...

        • (Score: 2) by VLM on Tuesday September 11 2018, @07:26PM

          by VLM (445) on Tuesday September 11 2018, @07:26PM (#733262)

          Another old example would be the classic Tandy TRS-80 Deskmate, truly a classic.

  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 10 2018, @11:55PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 10 2018, @11:55PM (#732978)

    I was in the templeos irc when we got news he died. I refused to believe it, but as the days went on I gradually came to terms. He will be missed dearly, his streams were always amazing.

    God bless Terry you will be missed.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 11 2018, @02:08AM (7 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 11 2018, @02:08AM (#733011)

    I always thought this guy was Michael David Crawford based on the way they phrased certain things.
    Now he hasn't commented in a few days
    Has anyone heard from the resident nut in the soylent fruitcake?
    I'm serious, I'm getting worried.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 11 2018, @02:16AM (4 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 11 2018, @02:16AM (#733014)

      He must have a webcrawler that searches for his name being mentioned

      • (Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Tuesday September 11 2018, @02:21AM (3 children)

        by MichaelDavidCrawford (2339) Subscriber Badge <mdcrawford@gmail.com> on Tuesday September 11 2018, @02:21AM (#733018) Homepage Journal

        I once used it to crawl all the linkspammers who obliterated scoopdev.org with the result that Kuro5hin's Bangladesh Alexa Rank went to six!

        Nobody believed me but I swear on a stack of bibles it was true!

        --
        Yes I Have No Bananas. [gofundme.com]
        • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 11 2018, @04:08AM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 11 2018, @04:08AM (#733054)

          Oh you too good to swear on an OS?

          • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 11 2018, @10:27AM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 11 2018, @10:27AM (#733095)

            Perhaps he will take over as TempleOS maintainer

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 11 2018, @02:18PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 11 2018, @02:18PM (#733153)

              better make it quick before poettering decides to try to infect this OS with SystemD too

    • (Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Tuesday September 11 2018, @02:19AM (1 child)

      by MichaelDavidCrawford (2339) Subscriber Badge <mdcrawford@gmail.com> on Tuesday September 11 2018, @02:19AM (#733017) Homepage Journal

      posted in

      --
      Yes I Have No Bananas. [gofundme.com]
  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Tuesday September 11 2018, @02:17AM (2 children)

    by MichaelDavidCrawford (2339) Subscriber Badge <mdcrawford@gmail.com> on Tuesday September 11 2018, @02:17AM (#733016) Homepage Journal

    - lives.

    A woman I knew from Caltech, Misha Mahowald [mahowaldprize.org] was tearing a huge wide swath throughout the scientific community with her invention of Neuromorphic Engineering [powells.com] in collaboration with EE Prof Carver Mead:

    She was building electronics that could see just like human eyes do.

    But she became Schizophrenic then threw herself in front of a train in Switzerland at the age of thirty-three.

    She was very quiet, studious and gentle. Her death was truly a loss to us all.

    --
    Yes I Have No Bananas. [gofundme.com]
    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 11 2018, @02:40AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 11 2018, @02:40AM (#733026)

      So are you having trouble finding a train, or what?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 12 2018, @03:26AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 12 2018, @03:26AM (#733465)

        Maybe he wants to get to know it first
        Tell you what, let's meet down on the train tracks, encounter a few trains, and if you survive make a list of trains for him to meet.
        Howz saturday for you?

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 11 2018, @04:06AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 11 2018, @04:06AM (#733051)

    Don't link to ResetEra. Fuck that SJW cancer bag that makes Tumblr look like a group of normies.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 11 2018, @09:26AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 11 2018, @09:26AM (#733082)

      Yeah that forum thread is pretty pathetic.

  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by Arik on Tuesday September 11 2018, @06:18AM (9 children)

    by Arik (4543) on Tuesday September 11 2018, @06:18AM (#733066) Journal
    "Have any Soylentils ever installed and played with TempleOS?"

    No, but after reading about a third of one of the links I'm already wondering why not.

    "There is no built-in calculator application, because the shell itself is one. Just enter 5+7 on the command line and you'll get the answer."

    That sounds good.

    Every machine I had for years only required two more keystrokes for that, including the space

    c 5+7

    So much more friendly than the interface that tells you to start by searching for a calculator and then trying to fingerpaint the tiny buttons like a retard.

    On the other hand the 640x480 is the holy resolution stuff does sound kind of kookie. But shit, I got kookie, or I got win10, or maybe some SystemD? Give me kookie, please, a double helping if you would be so kind.

    --
    If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
    • (Score: 2) by takyon on Tuesday September 11 2018, @09:57AM (6 children)

      by takyon (881) <{takyon} {at} {soylentnews.org}> on Tuesday September 11 2018, @09:57AM (#733086) Journal

      On the other hand the 640x480 is the holy resolution stuff does sound kind of kookie. But shit, I got kookie, or I got win10, or maybe some SystemD? Give me kookie, please, a double helping if you would be so kind.

      As long as you're fine with giving up networking.

      --
      [SIG] 10/28/2017: Soylent Upgrade v14 [soylentnews.org]
      • (Score: 2) by Hyper on Tuesday September 11 2018, @10:30AM (2 children)

        by Hyper (1525) on Tuesday September 11 2018, @10:30AM (#733096) Journal

        Why would we need networking?
        It runs games, right?

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Arik on Tuesday September 11 2018, @04:25PM (2 children)

        by Arik (4543) on Tuesday September 11 2018, @04:25PM (#733186) Journal
        So add networking.

        That's relatively straightforward stuff and all the documentation should be available (as long as you're ok with a very limited selection of network hardware, at least.)

        And as long as you're using it with other systems, it doesn't even need networking, strictly speaking. Does it support RS-232? A console connection to a workstation is all you would really need.

        --
        If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 11 2018, @07:58PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 11 2018, @07:58PM (#733282)

          notice that he didn't add network because it set a max number of lines for the templeOS, if adding something new, he would need to remove something first... network would require lot of lines, so he refuse to add it

          also notice that he used ubuntu as his OS for everything, the templeOS was running inside a VM

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 12 2018, @03:29AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 12 2018, @03:29AM (#733466)

            Sacrilege!!!! The OS of God shall not be defiled by the satanic interwebs!

    • (Score: 2) by Unixnut on Tuesday September 11 2018, @04:41PM (1 child)

      by Unixnut (5779) on Tuesday September 11 2018, @04:41PM (#733203)

      I remember looking at it a few years ago, and also thinking that it would be a nice base for an embedded OS. however it was written for x64. Almost all (cheap mass market) embedded systems available are ARM based (e.g. raspberry pi), or old Industrial SBCs which, if you want to find one that is affordable second hand. are mostly likely at Pentium I/II/III class i486 type machines.

      TempleOS would not run on either one of those. You have a variety of open source OSes (including RTOS) for embedded systems of x86/arm architectures, and for x86 you can load up FreeDOS (which does not seem too bad as a non RT embedded OS). Temple OS didn't fit in either niche, and running it on a full x86-64 system for an embedded requirement was just overkill.

      For me at least, outside of using it as an embedded system, it just didn't seem to have much practical use, and I never felt like firing it up in a VM just to fiddle with it. Saying that, I think I will give it a go when I get some time now. See what this mans Magnum Opus has brought to the world.

      • (Score: 2) by VLM on Tuesday September 11 2018, @07:32PM

        by VLM (445) on Tuesday September 11 2018, @07:32PM (#733266)

        that it would be a nice base for an embedded OS

        Of course why not use FreeRTOS... like my Speed Queen clothes washer (and that is no kidding, weird as it might sound, and no my clothes washer is not "smart" nor networked, its just how they did the front panel.). I mean, if its good enough for my dishwasher, its good enough for my dev board, right?

        The idea of flashing my clothes washer with an alternative OS, perhaps TempleOS, is strangely intriguing.

  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 11 2018, @02:26PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 11 2018, @02:26PM (#733156)

    Truly a man with a vision. What he built should inspire us for generations.
    If for nothing else, to show us that it can be done with enough willpower.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 11 2018, @08:18PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 11 2018, @08:18PM (#733288)

    TempleOS? pfffft. HubbardOS!

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 11 2018, @09:08PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 11 2018, @09:08PM (#733311)

    What does god need with a starship operating system?

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