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The Boring Company's LA test tunnel is almost complete
Today, Elon Musk announced via Twitter that the first Boring Company test tunnel under Los Angeles is almost finished. When it's complete, the system will be able to carry pedestrians, cyclists and private vehicles at speeds of 155 mph. People will be able to try the loop out for free at a special event at SpaceX headquarters in Hawthorne, CA, on December 10th.
Also at LA Times, The Verge, and The Washington Post.
Previously: Elon Musk's Boring Tunnel Near Los Angeles
Elon Musk pitches $1, 150 MPH "Loop" Rides under Los Angeles
Related: Washington, D.C. Granted Elon Musk's Boring Company an Excavation Permit for Possible Hyperloop
Elon Musk's Boring Company Wins Chicago O'Hare International Airport Transportation Contract
Elon Musk's Boring Bricks
(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Tuesday October 23 2018, @11:06AM (14 children)
and all the others: stuck underground when the earthquake hit.
Not. me. thanks.
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(Score: 4, Interesting) by VLM on Tuesday October 23 2018, @11:42AM
The Japanese have an interesting seismic mesh network for that, given that seismic waves move really slow and light really fast, they can stop the train or at least minimize damage before the earthquake arrives in most cases.
(Score: 3, Funny) by canopic jug on Tuesday October 23 2018, @11:44AM (2 children)
Maybe he'll drill deeply directly along a major fault line and then announce that he'll run a connecting line to the coast...
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(Score: 2) by driverless on Wednesday October 24 2018, @05:54AM (1 child)
Or drill across the San Andreas fault in multiple locations and pull zip ties through the holes to stabilise things.
(Score: 2) by Freeman on Thursday October 25 2018, @04:24PM
Zip ties, the other Duck Tape.
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 0, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 23 2018, @12:16PM
No need for thanks, you weren't invited anyway.
(Score: 3, Informative) by looorg on Tuesday October 23 2018, @02:37PM (8 children)
As far as I can remember LA already has an underground railroad, a lot of it was above ground but there was underground stations to as I recall it. I don't think they have collapsed in any of the previous earthquakes so I'm not sure why Musks boring tunnel would.
(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Tuesday October 23 2018, @03:15PM (1 child)
I'm less optimistic than you, I guess. I think the big one still has to be experienced.
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(Score: 2) by looorg on Tuesday October 23 2018, @07:35PM
Isn't the big one always sort of slightly beyond the horizon, one hits and it was "big" but it was never the "big one". The BIG ONE at this stage has to be earth shattering and apocalyptic.
(Score: 4, Informative) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Tuesday October 23 2018, @04:28PM (4 children)
But not the double-decker freeway that ran right next to it. A total of I think 65 people died in the Loma Prieta quake, all but a few of whom were on the lower deck. When I mention this now I am unable to escape the memory that one lady's life was saved when the first responders cut both her legs off with a power saw, and without anesthesia.
There are some tall buildings in Oakland, and there are lots of very tall buildings in San Francisco that were not damaged in any way by that quake.
One reason they weren't is that those buildings were specifically designed to survive earthquakes.
Many of the houses that were destroyed were built during the Great Depression when it was common to use beach sand in concrete. You don't want to do that because beach sand grains are worn smooth. If you make your concrete's sand by crushing up a big rock in a ball mill, its grains will have lots of nooks and crannies for the Portland Cement to adhere to;
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(Score: 4, Informative) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday October 23 2018, @04:49PM (1 child)
I don't know about sand wearing smooth. You may be right, you may be wrong. But, oceanfront beach sand contains sea salt. Salt is corrosive. During WW2, the Seabees built a lot of stuff in the Pacific, using beach sand in their concrete and mortar. They fully expected stuff to fall apart prematurely - and most of it did exactly that. There are ways to get around corrosion, but most of this wasn't in use during the world war era, not to mention that it would have been prohibitively expensive.
http://www.claisse.info/2013%20papers/data/e172.pdf [claisse.info]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 26 2018, @09:55PM
I talked to a Lebanese man a few years back. Where he lives all the houses are built out of concrete, up to three stories tall, with the first story usually built as a reinforced 'foundation' building so that other members of the family (usually sons) can build their own house on top of the parent's house as their own family grows.
He said one of the major problems will less reputable contractors there, especially in the regions nearer the coast, is the use of beach sand for construction instead of desert sand. The beach sand's salt interferes with the proper curing of the concrete and causes its strength to be much reduced compared to the desert sand, since Sodium Ions replace Calcium Ions in key concrete formations. He stated this was common knowledge among the literate in Lebanon, although the poor and some cheap rental owners would use those questionable contracts with the risk of the buildings collapsing.
(Score: 2) by Joe Desertrat on Tuesday October 23 2018, @09:12PM (1 child)
The parts that fell were built on "made" ground*. The parts that held up were built on bedrock. If you mark a map of the areas where the worst damage occurred during the quake you will be mapping the areas of the city built on made ground. Such ground liquefies in a quake and tends to shake like jello.
*An area of dry land that has been made by people, generally through the reclamation of marshes, lakes, or shorelines. An artificial fill (landfill) is used, consisting of natural materials, refuse, etc.
(Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Wednesday October 24 2018, @01:46AM
It parallels a river one block away, and had quite a lot of damage with two people killed. But elsewhere in Santa Cruz there wasn't much damage. One house was destroyed when its water heater set it on fire, but at my own place there was no damage at all.
When they rebuilt the St. George Hotel in downtown, they used a pile driver to drive extremely long concrete posts all the way down to the bedrock, then rested the new place's foundation on those posts.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 23 2018, @04:49PM
Regular train tunnels don't need to be nearly airtight to maintain a low-resistance environment.
(Score: 2) by FatPhil on Tuesday October 23 2018, @03:11PM (1 child)
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Tuesday October 23 2018, @04:30PM
For example I lived in Pasadena when I attended Caltech, but nobody knows where Pasadena is so I usually say "I lived in LA".
There are dozens of cities in LA County.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 23 2018, @03:21PM (1 child)
http://www.weirdus.com/states/california/fabled_people_and_places/lizard_people/index.php [weirdus.com]
He wants to make contact...
Not that I've anything against our reptilian overlords, I live beside a port town where the denizens would be quite at home in Innsmouth...or Y'ha-nthlei...reptilians would be positively normal compared to this lot.
(Score: 3, Funny) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Tuesday October 23 2018, @04:34PM
Recall that he only got ten years, and that was for tax evasion. They never managed to pin a murder rap on him.
A while back someone got the idea that he had a vault underneath a certain street next to a certain building that Capone once owned but that construction on that street resulted in the vault being sealed off.
I'd love to spoil it for you but it's even better to watch Geraldo Rivera's TV show about it. I think it's this one: https://youtu.be/yNk1eUfJzx8 [youtu.be]
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 23 2018, @04:16PM (1 child)
Wasn't it supposed to do 760mph?
(Score: 5, Informative) by takyon on Tuesday October 23 2018, @06:09PM
You're thinking of Hyperloop. This is just Musk's "I want to dig tunnels under L.A. traffic" idea. It was never meant to be Hyperloop-fast, at least not yet.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 23 2018, @05:48PM (2 children)
They are starting on Dec 10?
Do they plan to start at 10 as well? Or will they be late and start at 10:10?
Relevant? OCT 31 = DEC 25
(Score: 2) by takyon on Tuesday October 23 2018, @06:28PM (1 child)
wat is this, numerology?
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 23 2018, @07:12PM
Probably [riddlesbrainteasers.com]
But that makes it dec 10 == oct 12;
Huh?
(Score: 3, Interesting) by bob_super on Tuesday October 23 2018, @06:49PM
While the tunnel already has ROI questions attached (the elevator system really ruins the throughput), my question is about the speed.
Outside of a marketing gimmick, what's the point of trying to reach 155mph over such a short distance ? The time savings are negligible compared to a more reasonable/usual 60 to 100mph, and the added engineering constraints are pretty big...
Note to Musk, if he reads us (LOL): ditch the elevators, or at least optimize them via a rotating system, like an old 6-shooter or Gatling gun.
(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Tuesday October 23 2018, @07:19PM (1 child)
If the ROI pans out, wouldn't it be more useful to use the tunnels as aqueducts? California especially has been suffering drought a lot recently.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Tuesday October 23 2018, @11:12PM
Because tunnels make water once renamed to aqueducts?
(What good is a water pipe if the water is missing?)
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 23 2018, @08:00PM (2 children)
Is this the silly company that was going to build a long rescue sub that had a good chance of getting stuck in the cave in Thailand? Dealing with tunnels might not be one of their strengths
(Score: 2, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 23 2018, @08:09PM
^ Look at the anon pedo guy
(Score: 2) by Freeman on Thursday October 25 2018, @04:30PM
"Mini-sub is ready if needed. It is made of rocket parts & named Wild Boar after kids' soccer team." https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-thai-caves-boy-rescue-spacex-tesla-2018-7/ [businessinsider.com]
I would say it was more likely produced in the SpaceX facilities as it was mentioned that it was made of rocket parts. Same Guy, wrong company.
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 24 2018, @12:07AM
I can imagine a few Who's on first conversations occurring over that name.
Who do you work for?
The Boring Company.
Oh too bad. Are you looking for a new job?
No I love it here. I have no intention of leaving.
But you said it's boring?
Yes it is boring, and it actually can be pretty exciting at times.
Oh you like boring jobs?
This is my first boring job and I really enjoy it.
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