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posted by martyb on Saturday December 08 2018, @04:26PM   Printer-friendly
from the What-harm-could-a-lie-do dept.

After VW was outed for falsifying environmental data in its cars hundreds of thousand of VW vehicles were taken off the road now sitting in storage sites. Hundreds of thousands of cars now lie in lots in the Mojave Desert, a shuttered suburban Detroit football stadium, and a former Minnesota paper mill in America alone. These vehicles are now in the open slowly breaking down with pollutants entering the environment. Is the the modern cost of corporate greed? What can we do to ensure this never happens again?


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  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 08 2018, @05:27PM (5 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 08 2018, @05:27PM (#771583)

    > ... to produce a REAL WORLD mpg

    Pointless. Some people like to let their cars idle for long periods, but how would your system separate that from poor mileage. Also, some people like to accelerate hard, others gently, makes a huge difference in fuel usage.

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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by VLM on Saturday December 08 2018, @05:44PM (4 children)

    by VLM (445) on Saturday December 08 2018, @05:44PM (#771596)

    That would average out. I suspect people idle GM vans about as much as they idle Toyota vans or whatever.

    Also consider euros cut the engine at idle because the lack of oil pressure ruins the engines faster, and the wear and tear on the starter and electrical system require more repairs, resulting in more profitable sales, and a lot of bullshit greenwashing marketing. Would not be surprised to see weird technological innovations like throttle G-limiters for acceleration to be implemented. Along with "pay more for us to unlock the G-limiter which results in us paying more tax on your car although your vroom vroom goes a little quicker". Or my wife's van only has 100 HP until a trailer is attached at which point it unlocks the upper throttle region to give equivalent performance.

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Dr Spin on Saturday December 08 2018, @06:09PM

      by Dr Spin (5239) on Saturday December 08 2018, @06:09PM (#771608)

      euros cut the engine at idle because the lack of oil pressure ruins the engines faster,
      In my Peugeot, while the engine is not running, an auxiliary oil pump is run to avoid this problem. Also, the starter is a geared one, which starts the engine with little strain, and probably far less drain on the battery than a conventional starter. It records how much time the engine is off on a trip. Two days ago, I collected my sister-in-law from Heathrow airport, and the engine was OFF for 44 minutes of the return journey because of traffic congestions. You can disable the system if you want to. I sometimes do - typically in towns with a lot of roundabouts like Harlow.

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    • (Score: 2) by NewNic on Saturday December 08 2018, @08:04PM (2 children)

      by NewNic (6420) on Saturday December 08 2018, @08:04PM (#771637) Journal

      Along with "pay more for us to unlock the G-limiter .."

      What do you think Tesla does? Those "Performance" models have the same hardware. The initial Model 3s were recorded doing 0-60 in 4.5 seconds. Now 5.1 seconds (the spec number) is typical.

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      • (Score: 2) by deimtee on Sunday December 09 2018, @12:13AM (1 child)

        by deimtee (3272) on Sunday December 09 2018, @12:13AM (#771708) Journal

        Same with the extended battery option. You pay more for more capacity, but it's the same battery with different software.

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        • (Score: 2) by Whoever on Sunday December 09 2018, @04:10AM

          by Whoever (4524) on Sunday December 09 2018, @04:10AM (#771795) Journal

          Same with the extended battery option.

          Apparently not on the Model 3. The mid-range version is claimed to have a fewer battery cells in the battery unit.