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The largest telecommunications company in Australia, Telstra, has outsourced 1500 jobs to India. It previously outsourced its directories division in 2006, while complaining about the lack of programmers available in Australia saying that only 1200 new software engineers have become available in the workforce in the last 12 months compared to 44,000 in India. This move is the latest in a series to offshore IT work to India.
How long until all of the IT in Telstra is moved to India?
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Telstra Outsources 1500 to India after Whining about Shallow Local IT Talent Pool
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(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 01 2019, @07:42AM (4 children)
Either Telstra is really full of it (plausible), or they don't know how to hire. We're still picking up decent developers at $work. Then again, this place is a helluva lot nicer place to work than Telstra =)
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 01 2019, @08:07AM (2 children)
Telstra is LYING in an effort to make their behavior look less objectionable.
This reminds me of a lowlife idiot I knew who committed adultery while his WIFE was 8 months pregnant. His "reasoning" was that since his wife didn't want to have sex he was forced to get sex from another woman. This is a true story. It does have a happy ending though.
The wife in question was obscenely wealthy and she divorced her cheating husband who now drives a shitty old Volvo and lives in a shitty apartment, this while he is 67 years old and without any plan which will enable him to live comfortably when he is no longer able to work. I love it when assholes get what they deserve.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 01 2019, @08:31AM (1 child)
Some day you'll get yours.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 01 2019, @07:27PM
I don't know why I threatened myself, guess I really do deserve to be punished.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 01 2019, @04:22PM
Population Australia: 25,238,000 => 1200 software engineers. Or 47 SEs per million per year
Population India: 1,324,171,354 => 44000 software engineers. Or 33 SEs per million per year
So yeah, obviously India gets more Software Engineers, may I also suggest to their board of directors that India also has more CEO's, CFO's, HRMs, ... Might be worth it looking into that!
Also, it seems this is part of a restructuring, they'll be firing some 10000 people. Are you sure there are no SE's among them? Or maybe at least a good portion that might do the role with sufficient training and guidance.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 01 2019, @07:44AM (2 children)
They probably eat curry now. I'd rather eat dragon meat!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 01 2019, @07:50AM
Dovahkiin?
(Score: 2) by sonamchauhan on Friday February 01 2019, @11:53AM
Chinese outsourcing?
(Score: 3, Insightful) by MostCynical on Friday February 01 2019, @09:27AM
30% or more in potential savings [igniteoutsourcing.com]
annual and even quarterly wages cost reductions earn management bonuses.
code quality can tank, yet, so long as products ship close to expected dates, with even 10% of planned features, delivery bonuses are assured.
tl;dr, once all our coders have left the country and no one wants to do such a low-paid job, we'll have no choice but to use Indian coders.
"I guess once you start doubting, there's no end to it." -Batou, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 01 2019, @10:52AM
I bet Indians are happy. I hope Aussies are too.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by fido_dogstoyevsky on Friday February 01 2019, @11:37AM (5 children)
Couldn't possibly care less.
Their apallingly poor service lost me as a customer a long time ago.
It's NOT a conspiracy... it's a plot.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 01 2019, @03:19PM (2 children)
what matters is that when they came and took the jews, i didn't do anything, because I wasnt jewish. that is the most direct and perhaps inappopriate example, but the context applies. doing nothing because you don't care may very well mean no one will care about you either.
when they come to take your job, the people in india won't defend you. and few of your brethren in the workforce near you will do much to help; they probably will be trying to prove their own worth to bother with defending yours.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 01 2019, @06:17PM
That's a bad analogy because the jews are obviously behind outsourcing.
(Score: 2) by fido_dogstoyevsky on Friday February 01 2019, @09:35PM
Godwinning up, it's more appropriate for me to say "when they came and took the war criminals, I didn't do anything, because I wasnt a war criminal".
It's NOT a conspiracy... it's a plot.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 01 2019, @03:36PM (1 child)
You have alternatives?
(Score: 2) by fido_dogstoyevsky on Friday February 01 2019, @09:42PM
I gave iiNet a try on my son's recommendation. First (and so far only) time I had a problem (fixed after the call) the helldesk operator put the script down and actually knew what I was talking about when I said I had a Linux system.
Might have been an exception, but I'm staying until they prove my confidence unfounded.
It's NOT a conspiracy... it's a plot.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by SomeGuy on Friday February 01 2019, @02:29PM
Companies like this can't shrivel up and die quick enough.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 01 2019, @03:52PM
You need to elect someone who will slap tariffs on India for trade imbalances and the unfair trade practice of dumping IT talent
(Score: 5, Insightful) by crafoo on Friday February 01 2019, @05:16PM (1 child)
These statements always omit the second half: "lack of programmers available" .. at the price point we want to pay.
I'm sure there are plenty of skilled programmers in Aussieland. They just are not able to work full time at 1/5th the pay; the rate that these companies can offer to Indian citizens and have their job offers accepted.
The reality is programming positions can be more or less effectively outsourced. So they will be. These companies will need program managers to oversee these projects and (when reality eventually shows itself) in-country, skilled programmers to clean up and take the project "the last mile". If your OK doing this kind of work you could tailor your CV accordingly.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 02 2019, @10:54AM
... and refuse to work a 45 hour week