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POUNDLAND has banned the sale of kitchen knives across the UK in response to the crime wave hitting the country.
The retailer stopped selling the weapons in London last week and is set to extend the ban to all 850 of its UK and Ireland stores by the end of the year.
The move follows 35 people being fatally stabbed in London since the beginning of the year as violence in the capital spikes.
Austin Cook Poundland's retail director said: "We have committed to take knives out of all our stores, starting with London, which we have done with immediate effect a couple of weeks ago, and we will take them out of the rest of the country by October.
"Since I've come into my role we have had a lot of feedback from our store colleagues that we are retailing knives that can have the wrong ultimate purpose for them.
"We want to take them off our shelves and take them out of the hands of the wrong customers and, whilst there is a sales implication for us, it's much more important to us to protect both our colleagues and our customers from any risk.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6069878/poundland-stop-selling-knives-london-stabbings/
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Town-centre pound store prosecuted for knife sale
Management and training procedures at the town-centre branch of a national retail chain were questioned when the company was prosecuted for the sale of a knife to under-age customers.
Poundworld Retail Ltd appeared at Croydon Magistrates' Court on 16 May and was fined £4,000 and ordered to pay costs after being found guilty of selling a knife to a person under the age of 18. The total penalty, including victim surcharge, amounted to £8,520.
The court heard that, as part of a test-purchasing exercise conducted by the council's trading standards department, two 14-year-old volunteers went to the store's North End branch on 28 May 2015 and, after selecting a kitchen knife from a display, took it for payment to one of the tills.
The sales assistant, on only his second day at work in the store, failed to challenge the youngsters and the sale was completed.
http://news.croydon.gov.uk/town-centre-pound-store-prosecuted-for-knife-sale/
'You cannot be soft on this': Boris Johnson calls for stop and search increase to combat London knife crime surge
Boris Johnson has called for an increased use of stop and search powers to combat knife crime following a spate of fatal stabbings in London.
The Foreign Secretary warned against "going soft" as he insisted that Scotland Yard and Sadiq Khan "come down like a ton of bricks" on gang leaders.
His comments came after teenager Sami Sidhom, 18, was knifed to death on Monday night in the capital's third killing in two days.
Mr Johnson said when he was Mayor of London he adopted a dual approach that boosted stop and search incidents while mentoring young people to prevent them getting sucked into gang violence.
In an interview with the Daily Telegraph, he told current London mayor Sadiq Khan: "You cannot be soft on this."
London murder rate overtakes New York as knife crime rises
LONDON (Reuters) - London police investigated more murders than their New York counterparts did over the last two months, statistics show, as the British capital's mayor vowed to fight a "violent scourge" on the streets.
There were 15 murders in London in February against 14 in New York, according to London's Metropolitan Police Service and the New York Police Department. For March, 22 murders were investigated in London, with 21 reports in New York.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by PiMuNu on Wednesday May 01 2019, @12:43PM (16 children)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_London [wikipedia.org]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_New_York_City [wikipedia.org]
Homicide rate is down by 50 % since early 2000. Homicide rate is about a third that in New York. [sarcasm]OTOH there are lots of foreign sorts about in London, so crime is probably high [/sarcasm]
(Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @01:01PM (2 children)
Since early 2000? Do you enjoy picking cherries?
(Score: 2) by PiMuNu on Wednesday May 01 2019, @01:52PM (1 child)
I guess my point is there were no such stories about "crime waves" in the 2000s.
Meta: when replying to two substantially identical comments, wouldn't it be nice if I could make one reply and link it to both comments.
(Score: 5, Funny) by Bot on Wednesday May 01 2019, @02:33PM
> Meta: when replying to two substantially identical comments, wouldn't it be nice if I could make one reply and link it to both comments.
Spotted the java developer :)
The c dev mods the later of the two redundant and replies to the one left.
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(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @01:08PM (1 child)
Your link shows homicides up 50% since 2014.
(Score: 2) by PiMuNu on Wednesday May 01 2019, @01:34PM
There were no such stories about "crime waves" in the 2000s.
(Score: 4, Funny) by driverless on Wednesday May 01 2019, @02:38PM (9 children)
When kitchen knives are outlawed, only outlaws and chefs and cooks and moms and dads and flatmates and partners and friends will have kitchen knives.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @06:01PM (4 children)
Announcing the formation of the National Knives Association!
An association dedicated to putting a knife in the hand of every man, woman, and child.
Spoiler: A knife was all Arya needed!
(Score: 2) by EvilSS on Wednesday May 01 2019, @11:31PM
(Score: 4, Interesting) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday May 02 2019, @03:03AM (2 children)
Any man, woman, or child over six walking around without a knife is an idiot. It's too damned useful a tool to not always have one.
Side note: Fuck the TSA. I'll drive before I leave my knife and lighter at home.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by DeVilla on Friday May 03 2019, @04:50AM (1 child)
These days, even having a utility knife in a toolbox in the trunk of your car can get a kid kicked out of school. I went decades without carrying a knife until my father in law got one one for Christmas. I had forgot how useful it is have have one handy.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 07 2019, @09:21AM
to kill people with who disagree with your specific invisible man in the sky
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @07:25PM (3 children)
Terrorists will resort to using meat tenderizers when they can't get kitchen knives.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @08:35PM (1 child)
Most terrorists already know "the pen is mightier than the sword" - that is how the TSA gets to terrorise everyone.
(Score: 2) by driverless on Thursday May 02 2019, @02:18AM
Unless you subscribe to the White Genocide Conspiracy Theory, in which case the terrorists know that the penis mightier than the sword.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @10:02PM
Meat tenderizer [amazon.com] in the hands of terrorists? Oh, the horrors!
(Score: 2) by bob_super on Wednesday May 01 2019, @06:11PM
New York, like Chicago, has highly seasonal crime, and I clearly remember heat wave or cold snaps having clear impacts on violence, especially gang violence (turns out it's harder to do a proper drive-by when your hands freeze when you open the window, and the target is staying inside).
Comparing February numbers in the NorthEast to London's numbers is disingenuous. The NY/Chicago/LA numbers in summer are way higher than London's.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Revek on Wednesday May 01 2019, @01:00PM (43 children)
You cannot remove the violence.
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(Score: 3, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @01:11PM (16 children)
First they came for my .... didn't need it so I gave it up.
Then they came for my ....
...
...
...
Last they came for my freedom. I'm now a slave.
How my I help you, Master?
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Bot on Wednesday May 01 2019, @02:38PM (13 children)
wartime weapons -> guns -> knives -> screwdrivers -> sticks -> fingers
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(Score: 2) by captain normal on Wednesday May 01 2019, @03:13PM (7 children)
You left out pitchforks and hammers, not to mention various battery powered hand tools. An impact driver with a long bit could do some serious damage (I've had a few bites on my hands and fingers from such due to slips). Also I have a small, but quite powerful, battery powered reciprocating saw that with a 12" pruning blade in it could be very deadly.
If you get to the point where you are afraid to go about on the streets, you should stay home or learn some martial arts, or just wear a big tool belt.
Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts"- --Daniel Patrick Moynihan--
(Score: 2) by mhajicek on Wednesday May 01 2019, @05:22PM (5 children)
There are now cordless electric chainsaws.
The spacelike surfaces of time foliations can have a cusp at the surface of discontinuity. - P. Hajicek
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @05:43PM (2 children)
..and they're not very good.
Cordless angle-ginders, however, have improved quite a lot, and if you get bored with the creative possibilities of the more normal style discs and blades and still crave some degree of chainsaw action you can always buy one of these beasties [harborfreight.com] for your new toy.
(Score: 2, Funny) by DECbot on Wednesday May 01 2019, @07:24PM
Or put the damn thing on a chain, zip-tie the trigger down, and then spin it over your head. Nobody will mess with a crazy guy whipping around an angle-grinder on a chain. [Probably because it's just a matter of time, he will take care of himself.]
cats~$ sudo chown -R us /home/base
(Score: 2, Insightful) by khallow on Thursday May 02 2019, @03:51PM
Probably good enough if you're trying to make the morning papers.
(Score: 2) by hemocyanin on Wednesday May 01 2019, @08:36PM (1 child)
I have one of these -- an Echo. Honestly, I love it. I need to use a chainsaw for about 60-90 minutes per year. It was such a major struggle to get my gas saw going after sitting around collecting dust those rare times I needed it. With the electric saw, I get about 20-30 minutes of cutting per charge which is fine with me. Cut up some limbs into firewood size, saw runs out of juice, put battery on charger, do clean up on what I've done, have a snack, finish.
If you needed to run a saw for many hours per day on a weekly basis, an electric would suck. But if you're just chopping up fallen limbs into firewood once or twice a year -- it's WAY better than a gas machine because it will start, there is no gas to store (or realize you need to go buy, plus 2cycle oil), it does what it needs to do.
(Score: 2) by hemocyanin on Wednesday May 01 2019, @08:37PM
Same thing with my weedeater -- I got rid of that 'refuses to start after sitting around POS' and got a battery powered model. Starts every time.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @08:30PM
England beat you to it: https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/teenager-wearing-goggles-killed-lecturer-14980171 [mirror.co.uk]
(Score: 2) by PinkyGigglebrain on Wednesday May 01 2019, @04:49PM (3 children)
FTFY :)
"Beware those who would deny you Knowledge, For in their hearts they dream themselves your Master."
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @06:10PM (2 children)
Spoken like someone who's never fought with sticks and stones.
A stick is great for keeping an animal at bay. A stone is what you want, if you are trying to do damage (ie. fight) not deter.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @11:06PM (1 child)
Your not thinking of the right kind of stick. A hardwood stick 1/4 the thickness of a baseball bat can be lethal even in untrained hands.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 07 2019, @09:24AM
You prefer deep slices made by kitchen knives?
(Score: 3, Insightful) by JoeMerchant on Wednesday May 01 2019, @06:58PM
Shank.
When knives are outlawed, there will be a lot more messy shank injuries.
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(Score: 2) by DannyB on Wednesday May 01 2019, @06:26PM
Be an indentured servant instead. Doesn't that have something to do with dentures? Which will probably be illegal too since they can be weaponized for biting.
When trying to solve a problem don't ask who suffers from the problem, ask who profits from the problem.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @11:57PM
Clearly we need a national association and lobby for ellipsis owners. They can take my U+2026 from my cold, dead hands.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Revek on Wednesday May 01 2019, @01:15PM (13 children)
This post is hardly offtoptic. Its not about the weapons its about the individuals who will resort to violence to serve themselves. The weapons in this case are knives. They are just a symptom of the problem.
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(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday May 01 2019, @01:55PM (5 children)
Fekkin' English, serving themselves since ~802, or 871, or thereabouts!
(Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @03:10PM (4 children)
Alas, even though this is about London, it isn't about the degenerate mongrel mix of the descendants of the Angle, Saxon and Jute immigrant scum which passes itself off as 'the English' stabbing each other into oblivion there (Unfortunately...besides, there's probably very few 'English' left living in London), but is about the current wave of schvartzer-on-schvartzer stabby wee cunting {descendants of|actual member of} one of our more recent waves of 'racially challenged' immigrant scum, otherwise no-one would be giving one flying fuck about this.
Our local stabby wee cunts, once you factor in the differences in population numbers, have been just as 'stabby' as their London counterparts, but as they're white (barely recognisable as human, but white), their antics are just not as newsworthy..even though there's a greater chance of stabby-wee-cunt-on-civilian violence happening here (as opposed to London's stabby-wee-cunt-on-stabby-wee-cunt violence)
Fucking migrants, welcome to the British Isles, it's been going downhill here since those fucking Beaker People moved in...
(Score: 1, Troll) by realDonaldTrump on Wednesday May 01 2019, @03:43PM (3 children)
Thank you. Somebody had to say it, and you said it. Boy, did you say it. They joined European Union. So they had to open their Borders to the entire World. Let many people in. Mostly, from Poland. And it's been a disaster for their country. Because Poland is not sending their best people. We love Poland, tremendous country, tremendous people. But the people that are fleeing Poland, so horrible. Those are the worst, the absolute worst. They're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.
(Score: 1, Troll) by HiThere on Wednesday May 01 2019, @04:44PM (1 child)
Somehow I don't think you read the post you are replying to.
Javascript is what you use to allow unknown third parties to run software you have no idea about on your computer.
(Score: 1, Troll) by realDonaldTrump on Wednesday May 01 2019, @05:08PM
I read it. Obviously, I read it. But, I wish I hadn't read your's!!!!
(Score: 1, Troll) by maxwell demon on Wednesday May 01 2019, @04:47PM
OK, we've got a progression of getting worse. Starting with drugs, going on to general crime, and then to rapists. And then yet another one, which therefore has to be the very worst: "And some, I assume, are good people."
Yeah, can't let those horrible good people into the country! ;-)
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
(Score: 5, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @03:22PM (6 children)
It is about more than violence -- it about the cost of violence to the perpetrator of violence. A dive deep into the murder rate in Britain shows that what brought relative peace was the gun, the introduction of the wheellock brought about a steep drop in the murder rate, and the even cheaper flintlock some time later, another steep drop. Suddenly the playing field was leveled between thug and victim and every thug had to take into account the real chance that the victim would no longer be a victim, but a defender. No longer would some 20yo meatball be able to act with certainty against an old man or woman.
What is interesting to me is that the gun made society peaceful enough for long enough, that people began to see the gun as the problem due to edge cases, rather than the instrument that made such violence "edge" cases rather than common occurrences in the first place.
From: http://billlawrenceonline.com/carlisle-moody-handguns-stop-murders/ [billlawrenceonline.com]
Murder rates
13th century: 22.68/100k
15th century: 40.79/100k
16th century: 20.28/100k (introduction of wheel lock)
17th century: 7.84/100k (introduction of flint lock)
1920: 0.84/100k (year the English right to bear arms terminated)
1999: 1.44/100k, but look at assaults: this went from 2.39/100k in 1920, to 419.29/100k in 1999. Clearly, thugs are bolder when there is no risk that their victims will fight back.
(Score: 5, Interesting) by ElizabethGreene on Wednesday May 01 2019, @03:56PM
Anti-psychotic medications have a similar problem. They work so well that after a while you feel like you don't need them anymore. Then you stop and bad things happen.
Something about forgetting history and doom..
(Score: 2) by HiThere on Wednesday May 01 2019, @04:46PM (1 child)
Umnh....I think you are ignoring all the other changes that happened during those time periods, such as the great London fires, the year of the plague, the invention of police, etc.
Javascript is what you use to allow unknown third parties to run software you have no idea about on your computer.
(Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @05:25PM
Addressed in the original paper, link to which is in link above.
Another interesting point is how non-gunowners benefited from those who did carry weapons -- criminals couldn't tell who is and is not armed and the cost of guessing wrong could be very high (death). This has played out in assault figures that went from insignificant in 1920 when gun control was instituted, to 200x the level in current times. There's no cost to being a bully anymore in the UK.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @07:15PM (1 child)
NRA propaganda? Right here on SoylentNews? Wow, they must really be in trouble if they have to aim this low!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @08:52PM
Presume much? Or is it just a convenient talking point every time facts are brought up in the firearm context?
Carlisle Moody was used as a fact witness by California in the recent CA magazine ban case: http://michellawyers.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Duncan-2019-03-29-Order-Granting-Plaintiffs-MSJ.pdf [michellawyers.com]
See page 70 of the order.
One of the plaintiffs in that case was the NRA (CA was the defendant). Moody was providing testimony against the NRA -- makes him somewhat of a crappy shill dontchathink?
(Score: 2) by FatPhil on Wednesday May 01 2019, @11:06PM
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @02:13PM (1 child)
Sure you can. Just remove the muslims.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @02:41PM
Convert them to atheists, then they won't kill in the name of their imaginary god. They will just be normal angry people :P
(Score: 0, Troll) by realDonaldTrump on Wednesday May 01 2019, @03:57PM (4 children)
WRONG. The violence comes from the very violent movies. And, video games. You put a Ratings System in. And so much of that will go away. So much. In U.S. A. we're working on that one. Very hard.
And, you give everybody guns. And so much of that violence will go away. Very quickly. I'll tell you, I was talking to our NRA the other day. Giving my yearly speech to NRA. And they made it a gun-free zone, right? Terrible idea. Because there was a very bad, or sick man there. And he threw a cell phone at me. Trying to rearrange my face. The face of the Presidency. So dangerous. So dangerous and that one could have been stopped so easily. So many very gun-adept, good guys there. You let them bring their guns. And they would have whacked that bad guy, trust me.
(Score: 2) by PiMuNu on Wednesday May 01 2019, @04:20PM (3 children)
The NRA? The *Russian funded* NRA?
(Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @06:13PM (1 child)
Obviously NRA stands for National Russian Association
:^)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @07:30PM
or in this situation the National Restaurant Association.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @08:56PM
fucking hilbots.
(Score: 2) by PinkyGigglebrain on Wednesday May 01 2019, @05:00PM
100% agreement,
This is the argument I make against every ban proposal on any tool or weapon. Banning the tool does nothing about the culture that teaches violence and lethal force to be an acceptable response to any conflict.
We need to focus on changing that culture of violence, not banning the tools used to commit violence because as history shows violent people will find simply find some other tool to use.
"Beware those who would deny you Knowledge, For in their hearts they dream themselves your Master."
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @05:33PM (2 children)
But you can limit the tools readily available to the violent.
(Score: 2) by hemocyanin on Wednesday May 01 2019, @08:57PM
Wherever there is prohibition, there is a black market which causes problems far worse than the problems caused by the thing prohibited.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @10:10PM
Damn near anything can be used.
I believe most of us here already know the real problem here is intent, not how its carried out.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @07:40PM
You are wrong you Nazi! You can just make voilence illegal by banning it and establish Voilence-free zones! Now take your antifa bike-lock pounding you bigot!
(Score: 4, Funny) by Snotnose on Wednesday May 01 2019, @01:13PM (12 children)
It's May 1, not April 1 today.
When the dust settled America realized it was saved by a porn star.
(Score: 2) by ElizabethGreene on Wednesday May 01 2019, @04:01PM (8 children)
This isn't a joke, sadly. Search twitter for #OpSpectre if you want to see pictures. The Bobbys have stopped posting pictures of the pliers and screwdrivers they seize too, because people were laughing at them. They are still seizing them, just not touting them on Twitter.
(Score: 2) by jmorris on Wednesday May 01 2019, @05:25PM (7 children)
Yeah it is a joke. This insanity ends the second a critical mass realize that and unleash the one weapon that would end it. Every politician who calls for these measures, every cucked CEO that issues such a stupid press release, every reporter that reports it as a straight news story gets the same thing: brutal and unrelenting laughter and ridicule. Then it ends and sanity returns.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @05:33PM (5 children)
Hey fucked in the head moron, the stores in London are doing this of their own volition. It was right there in the summary. God you alt-right loonies are so easily triggered, no wonder you champion "feelz over realz."
(Score: 2, Touché) by jmorris on Wednesday May 01 2019, @05:42PM (3 children)
Didn't I include the cucked CEOS? *looks at original post again* Yup, so what is your effing point champ?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @06:49PM (2 children)
Fair enough, but looks like the politician pushing this is the Brit's version of Trump, Boris "the schlameal" Johnson. Remember, Trump said to take their guns and worry about due process later.
So jump off the Trump Train or shut yer hole!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @01:16AM (1 child)
Trump also said he wasn't going to go after Clinton and friends who tried to fix the election and then a coup because he wanted to focus on getting shit done. But last week said after two years of obstruction he has no choice now. It seems to be beginning:
"Breaking: Criminal referral filed against Nellie Ohr concerning congressional testimony after emails surface showing election-year contacts with DOJ"
https://mobile.twitter.com/jsolomonReports/status/1123743778035109888 [twitter.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @01:52AM
https://www.scribd.com/document/408347748/Final-Criminal-Referral-Nellie-Ohr-5-1-19 [scribd.com]
(Score: 3, Informative) by ElizabethGreene on Wednesday May 01 2019, @06:12PM
The stores in London aren't the ones organizing the police stop and Frisk Campaign. That's what OpSpectre is. That is explicitly what they are describing in TFS with this quote.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 07 2019, @09:27AM
Can't they just kick all of the bagheads out?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @05:12PM
So, No more "night of the long knives" for the Commies who love May 1st?
Interdasting, their method is typically: disarm, divide, then destroy...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @06:03PM
Hah, read this and weep..
https://www.overlawyered.com/2005/05/butter-knife-an-offensive-weapon/ [overlawyered.com]
The UK, where every.fucking.day is like a really bad April 1st......
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @07:16PM
May1? International Workingmen's Day? Russia's not even Commie anymore. Coincidence?
(Score: 4, Insightful) by RandomFactor on Wednesday May 01 2019, @01:14PM (32 children)
already have several of these? My God people could start keeping their knives around for generation after generation passing them down with their rich history to their children! Yessirree Bobby! This beauty carved up the great prize Thanksgiving turkey of 2025, your great grandpa got the leg, he always liked legs ya know, yep yep (admittedly maybe not likely a Thanksgiving story in London, but you get the idea)
And, not to put too fine a point on this, but, you can make your own perfectly slashy knife in an evening out of all kinds of things.
There need to be kitchen knife buybacks and eventually confiscation and metalworking needs to be outlawed along with videos on knifemaking and blacksmithing.
В «Правде» нет известий, в «Известиях» нет правды
(Score: 4, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @01:21PM (13 children)
They already have "knife bins", where you get free dvds if you surrender your knife:
https://www.flickfilosopher.com/wptest/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/knifebin.jpg [flickfilosopher.com]
Also, do not forget that people "shouldn't be eating meat" anyway. It is difficult to see what excuse you have for a knife when you are consuming the diet of insects that you are supposed to be eating. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-22508439 [bbc.com]
(Score: 5, Touché) by RandomFactor on Wednesday May 01 2019, @02:02PM (7 children)
I....I am not sure how to respond. My post was supposed to be sarcastic and snarky. If it just matches reality I'm not sure where that leaves us.
В «Правде» нет известий, в «Известиях» нет правды
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @02:26PM (4 children)
It leaves you not in the UK, for which you can thank your lucky stars.
The UK is finally conquered. It has become a Third World shithole with an icing of leftist totalitarian bullshit. Call it sef-castration. What the hell is going on with Brexit? Stalling so it simply doesn't happen?
(Score: 3, Touché) by driverless on Wednesday May 01 2019, @02:41PM (2 children)
You forgot to mention the bit about blacks and/or muslims taking over and whites being exterminated. Also I believe saying something about the EU and/or UN is required at this point.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @03:07PM (1 child)
The UN was already mentioned above. They said you don't need knives to eat a proper diet of insects.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @05:26PM
In Islamic London, insects eat you! (as you rot in the gutter, having been stabbed to death)
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @05:33PM
Again with the leftist....you people never get this, do you?
The people running the 'spectacle' aren't leftist or rightist, they're 'Them'ists, but will be quite happy to know that people like you still fall for the old left/right BS 'labels' as it means they can count on their tactical use to forment division amongst the unteren schichten.
(Score: 4, Funny) by jmorris on Wednesday May 01 2019, @05:27PM
> 'm not sure where that leaves us.
I'll tell ya. Clown. World.
Honk Honk.
(Score: 2) by edIII on Wednesday May 01 2019, @07:34PM
Especially since meat is only one of things you cut with a knife. The knife is like one of the best things invented, just short of sliced bread and the sandwich.
No knife means some very limited culinary possibilities.
Technically, lunchtime is at any moment. It's just a wave function.
(Score: 5, Funny) by maxwell demon on Wednesday May 01 2019, @03:37PM (3 children)
But how are you supposed to open the DVD shrink wrap without the knife?
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @05:28PM (2 children)
With your teeth. (insert 'English have bad teeth' joke here)
Well, they'll probably ban teeth next month, anyway.
(Score: 1) by Sulla on Wednesday May 01 2019, @06:50PM
The only people who need teeth are those who refuse to only partake in eating of the communal yeast farms. They are anti-social and must be de-fanged.
Ceterum censeo Sinae esse delendam
(Score: 1) by RandomFactor on Wednesday May 01 2019, @09:06PM
I wanted to mod this 'Incisorful'
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(Score: 3, Insightful) by hemocyanin on Wednesday May 01 2019, @05:28PM
Eating bugs will only push the problem into the future -- the problem is exponential population growth.
(Score: 3, Troll) by VLM on Wednesday May 01 2019, @01:32PM (7 children)
If the problem is caused by demographic replacement, the current owners of artifacts aren't going to inherit them to their children. They are going to be wiped out, pushed out, kids killed, impoverished by taxes to help the invaders means too poor for kids, etc.
In summary if your country is invaded, population pushed out and culture replaced (by one with more knife violence or whatever) then knives are going to be transferred as the spoils of invasion not inherited.
I would guess that most Aztec artifacts are not owned by descendants of the original Aztecs anymore, for example.
Again, the legacy culture which is being wiped out formerly could invent and manufacture steam engines and jet aircraft and ICBMs, but the replacement population's culture doesn't do stuff like that, so that means in the future, the magic soil of England will produce, well, not much anymore. Mud huts, and lots of violence, little more. Maybe a few people looking back at the past and pondering how England was once mighty, or once had electricity, or once had a literate population or a low crime rate.
Rhodesia was the breadbasket of Africa when the whites ran it; now they're being wiped out so despite the magic dirt still being there, the population of Zimbabwe starves. It wasn't a breadbasket because of magic dirt, economy is downstream of demographics and culture.
Replace the demographics and culture, and the economy and crime rate change to match.
Detroit is another small scale example; when it was the early automobile era equivalent of todays silicon valley, it was white and rich, but for some odd reason no one can identify the same magic dirt that produced unimaginable wealth a century ago now produces extraordinary poverty. Its almost like genetics exists, or demographics matter, or culture matters, or race matters, but thats all double plus ungood badthink so I'm sure the only problem is lead pipes or bad words on the internet or those evil white males or whatever nonsense.
(Score: 2) by PiMuNu on Wednesday May 01 2019, @02:06PM (4 children)
I believe "breadbasket of Africa" referred traditionally to regions further North. The term, I believe, originated in reference to Britain's attempts to stop other European powers interfering in its control over Egypt by taking control of regions such as Sudan, which provided a significant proportion of Egypt's food. I couldn't find a good reference for this on the intraweb with a quick google. However, I thought this article was interesting and relevant to your comments:
https://africacheck.org/2017/11/28/analysis-zimbabwe-ever-breadbasket-africa/ [africacheck.org]
Nb: there was lots of crime in 2000s; presumably by your rascist logic there is a good correlation with African migrants?
Number of migrants in UK:
https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/migrants-in-the-uk-an-overview/ [ox.ac.uk]
Crime in London:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_London [wikipedia.org]
I don't see much correlation there so I reject your hypothesis. I haven't done much googling around though...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @07:30PM
Cool. Now do Sweden and grenade attacks.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @07:55PM
I'm from the region in question.
In living memory, Rhodesia (present-day Zimbabwe) was the breadbasket of Africa. Agricultural productivity was off the charts of the day.
GPP is quite right about that. Inflammatory, but correct.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @08:12PM (1 child)
Dafuq is rascist logic?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @10:37PM
And what, pray tell, is "dafuq?" Is that a friend of yours? I do also wonder what "rascist" means as well.
Is English a second language for you? I thought so. So you're an immigrant, then?
Wait, let me guess, "dafuq" and "rascist" are Tagolog words?
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @05:35PM (1 child)
Fuck off you racist shit. With any luck you'll get locked up and you can enjoy your dreams of joining a real white supremacy group while also fulfilling your dreams be being a true sub.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @07:26PM
You just further prove his point...
(Score: 3, Insightful) by zocalo on Wednesday May 01 2019, @02:13PM (4 children)
UNIX? They're not even circumcised! Savages!
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @02:23PM (1 child)
Read the second story. Poundland had to pay a £8k fine over these knives a few years ago. Looks like they decided its just more trouble than it is worth to deal with it.
(Score: 2) by zocalo on Wednesday May 01 2019, @04:12PM
Beside it being more trouble than it's worth (e.g. the loss of profit is near zero), I'd also factor in that Poundland have no confidence in their staff's ability to do age checks, and they saw an opportunity to make a quick, but mostly pointless given how many other sources of knives there are, PR move.
UNIX? They're not even circumcised! Savages!
(Score: 4, Funny) by realDonaldTrump on Wednesday May 01 2019, @04:06PM
Thank you. I thought it was the other kind of pounding. And I was wondering, why did they let the 14 Year olds in. Because that, possibly, is a little young to be going to Pound Town.
(Score: 4, Informative) by JoeMerchant on Wednesday May 01 2019, @07:02PM
Around here, local municipalities pass bogus laws against things like "burglar tools" which includes screwdrivers, a brick, basically any implement that _might_ be used to burglarize a home or vehicle, it can be taken as far as your ID card which might be used to open a locked door. The veneer of deniability no longer applies, if you are walking on the city streets (and the cop doesn't like the way you look), they can give you all kinds of hassle for basically anything they find on your person and write it up as "arrested due to possession of burglar tools."
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(Score: 2) by PinkyGigglebrain on Wednesday May 01 2019, @05:05PM (1 child)
For the love of God! Please don't give them any ideas.
"Beware those who would deny you Knowledge, For in their hearts they dream themselves your Master."
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @06:36PM
Bet they really love 'Forged in Fire'...
Though, amusingly, the good old censor has been at work on the version shown on UK Freeview TV, it might be my imagination, but it's been a while since they've shown a kill test, even during the official 'watershed'.
(Score: 2) by FatPhil on Wednesday May 01 2019, @11:11PM (1 child)
...
> already have several of these? [...] This beauty carved up the great prize Thanksgiving turkey of 2025
They don't have "Thanksgiving" anythings in London, let alone turkeys, which are a christmas food.
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(Score: 1) by RandomFactor on Friday May 03 2019, @10:45AM
it was notional and humorous, that should have been clear from the next sentence.
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(Score: 2) by Reziac on Friday May 03 2019, @04:08AM
There's a guy on Youtube who makes knives from stuff like jello and toilet paper. The most successful was probably the one made from cardboard.
I suppose they've already outlawed straight razors and box cutters.
And there is no Alkibiades to come back and save us from ourselves.