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posted by martyb on Thursday May 02 2019, @06:27AM   Printer-friendly
from the for-various-definitions-of-"soon" dept.

Since the settlement of Jamestown in 1607 and the start of the Colonial period, the U.S. has been predominantly white.

But the white share of the U.S. population has been dropping, from a little under 90% in 1950 to 60% in 2018. It will likely drop below 50% in another 25 years.

White nationalists want America to be white again. But this will never happen. America is on its way to becoming predominantly non-white.

The U.S. federal government uses two questions to measure a person's race and ethnicity. One asks if the person is of Hispanic origin, and the other asks about the person's race.

A person is defined as white if he or she identifies as being only white and non-Hispanic. A minority, or nonwhite, person is anyone who is not solely non-Hispanic white.

[...] Whites were not the first people to settle in what is now the U.S. The first immigrants were a people known today as American Indians and Alaskan natives, also commonly referred to as Native Americans. They arrived in North America around 14,000 years ago.

When Christopher Columbus arrived in America in 1492, there were around 10 million American Indians living in the lands north of Mexico. But by the 1800s their numbers had dwindled to about 1 million. They are now the smallest race group in the U.S.

The first sizable stream of immigrants to what is now the U.S. were whites from England. Their arrival at Plymouth in 1620 in search of religious freedom marked the start of large waves of whites coming to this land.

When the U.S. was established as a country in 1776, whites comprised roughly 80% of the population. The white share rose to 90% in 1920, where it stayed until 1950.

[...] Although the majority of the U.S. population today is still white, non-whites account for more than half of the populations of Hawaii, the District of Columbia, California, New Mexico, Texas and Nevada. And, in the next 10 to 15 years, these half dozen "majority-minority" [PDF] states will likely be joined by as many as eight other states where whites now make up less than 60% of the population.

Census Bureau projections show that the U.S. population will be "majority-minority" sometime between 2040 and 2050. Our research suggests that this will happen around 2044. Indeed, in 2020, there are projected to be more non-white children than white children in the U.S.

Source: phys.org; original at The Conversation.


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @08:00AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @08:00AM (#837715)

    Maybe if you care, you should look at this and how fucked up this entire "white" and "non-white" and whatever actually is.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqciCFLxfEE [youtube.com]

  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @08:12AM (18 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @08:12AM (#837717)

    A person is defined as white if he or she identifies as being only white and non-Hispanic.

    and I always thought white was lazy for Caucasian. Even in the most backwards, racist 1700s, no one ever thought for Spaniards to be non-white.

    https://www.quora.com/Are-Spaniards-and-Portuguese-considered-white [quora.com]

    oh wait, but it's some racist fuck submitting things... so I I guess we are lucky we didn't descent to non-Aryans whites, whatever the fuck that means.

    • (Score: 4, Interesting) by aristarchus on Thursday May 02 2019, @08:37AM (4 children)

      by aristarchus (2645) on Thursday May 02 2019, @08:37AM (#837727) Journal

      "White" has morphed so much in the last 80 years or so as to be meaningless. White Anglo-Saxon Protestant? Well who wants to be Protestant, these days, when Franklin Graham is getting all up in the queers stuff? And Anglo? Or Saxon? What about the Welsh, the Irish, the Iceni, the Britons, the true Celtic indigenous people of the Isles? (who, by the way, do not approve of Brexit. I was just asking Boudecia what she thought, and she called Teresa May a Roman Whore, so there's that.)

      The point being that lots of "Americans" (and I use the term loosely) count as "white" who never could have in the recent past. And I am not talkng about former slaves, or native Americans, or Mexicans, Cubans, PuertoRicans, Hispanolians, or Californians, I am talking about Jews (this still comes up in some circles, or EFs), Bohunks and other Slavs (not white, see "Hungarian Phrasebook", Monty Python [youtube.com]), Italians, Spaniards, Fricken Swedes (who cannot speak English, Uff da!), and the Bloody Irish (why are they bloody? Something to to with English tyranny and military force?). None of these people were "WASPs", but now they are baptised into the fold of "whiteness"? Bullshit. They are still non-white, and the "White" elite knows this, but is only allowing it to gather allies for the war against all the people left out side the charmed circle, sort of, to use a metaphor from Ireland, beyond the Pale [urbandictionary.com]?

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by JoeMerchant on Thursday May 02 2019, @10:18AM

        by JoeMerchant (3937) on Thursday May 02 2019, @10:18AM (#837769)

        Spanish, and therefore Hispanic, morphed away from white after the Moorish invasion... forward that on to Central and South America for further mixing, and it is a clearly recognizable distinct race, not the "royal Spanish" (of which almost no pure blood remains), but the globally recognized Hispanics of the Americas.

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      • (Score: 3, Informative) by Runaway1956 on Thursday May 02 2019, @03:02PM (2 children)

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday May 02 2019, @03:02PM (#837906) Journal

        Well, you got that right. Grandfather was second generation Polack immigrant. As young men tend to do, he fell in love with a cute little girl. This little girl happened to be French. He daddy cursed my grandpa, and told him, "I'd rather she married a nigger!" I guess Grandpa was hung like a horse, because that little French girl married him anyway - I grew up calling her "Grandma".

        Grandpa found the cottage of his dreams, and hers, as well. He couldn't buy the cottage and two acres, because it was deeded so that only "white" people could buy it. Time for that dumb Pollack to do an end run around the law - he paid some old white guy to buy the property, and to write his will so that Grandpa inherited. No non-white has ever bought that property, but one did inherit it. Damn those dumb Pollacks!

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @05:39PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @05:39PM (#838006)

          A lot of this is rooted in a poor understanding of history. The Irish used to be referred to as niggers for a long period and most of the other epithets used against the Blacks applied as well. They and the Italians didn't graduate into what we consider to be "White" until sometime in the '30s. Most of the White ethnic groups were discriminated against at some point during the history of the US. Right now it's fashionable to be racist against Russians again. Sigh, but nobody really wants to admit that that's what's driving the current red scare as much as actual malfeasance on the part of the Russian government.

          Most groups have figured out over the years that you have to build coalitions and your own community up if you want to be well off, some choose not to do that and instead blame others for their own failures.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @09:36PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @09:36PM (#838139)

            Wow, nice spin you threw in there "Right now it's fashionable to be racist against Russians again."

            What a load of divisive crap trying to spin away the conservative's problem with racism and Trump's Russia problem. *golf clap* now go fuck yourself

            Oh right, not to mention your *BOOTSTRAPS* addendum.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @09:58AM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @09:58AM (#837761)

      I've never understood this as well. I don't understand how white supremacy is an excuse to shoot up a mosque or temple either. Islam and Judaism are religions. I can understand that many muslims aren't white, but 90% of Jews are white germanics. Same with Catholicism, that is the most white religion out there. Why would white supremacy be in conflict with the majority religion of Europe?

      • (Score: 3, Flamebait) by Runaway1956 on Thursday May 02 2019, @03:10PM (1 child)

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday May 02 2019, @03:10PM (#837909) Journal

        You might want to do a little research. Islam is not a religion, exactly. It is a complete socio-economic, political, AND religious system. Other religions tend to pry into one or more aspect of your life, whether it be business, family, politics, or whatever. Islam claims to rule every aspect of your life. And, Islam, today, still executes heretics, witches, sorcerers, homosexuals, apostates, "terrorists", and more.

        https://www.islamweb.net/en/article/111762/ [islamweb.net]

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 03 2019, @05:56PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 03 2019, @05:56PM (#838479)

          Sooo like Christianity in the West? Got it.

          Thankfully our ancestors realized that religious persecution could target themselves so they implemented protective laws. We currently have the religious right trying to reestablish a church and state society, and the only thing stopping them is the surge in atheism along with the laws against such merging.

          It is easy to hate on cultures that still have hangups, much like how Europeans laugh at us stupid Murricans. Islam is 100% a religion, but some societies haven't figured out that separating church and state is a very necessary step.

          Be glad you live in a slightly more sane country, but don't get feeling too superior just yet. Especially you Runaway, you've already gone wide-eyed looney about the thought of killing liberals that try to implement *screeeeam* "socialism."

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by inertnet on Thursday May 02 2019, @10:36AM (2 children)

      by inertnet (4071) on Thursday May 02 2019, @10:36AM (#837778) Journal

      and I always thought white was lazy for Caucasian. Even in the most backwards, racist 1700s, no one ever thought for Spaniards to be non-white.

      To me not only 'Hispanic' sounds strange, because people are meant that are not from Spain, but also Caucasian sounds weird because only a small minority of people actually are from the Caucasus.

      In the current era of oversensitive melanin wars, I expect that the term 'Hispanic' will be replaced soon, because it stands for "descendants of people colonized by Spaniards".

      Finally, fighting over race is extremely stupid and wasteful, because nobody can be held responsible for the DNA that they're born with. It's just as silly as condemning people for hereditary conditions.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @06:05PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @06:05PM (#838016)

        "but also Caucasian sounds weird because only a small minority of people actually are from the Caucasus."

        the Caucasus is where the Caucasoids are believed to have originated, spawning all the sub races and cultures considered to be caucasoid, including Aryan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryan_race) hamitic (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamites

        ) and semitic (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Semitic-speaking_peoples).

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @07:20PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @07:20PM (#838056)

          Where is your citation for the Ancient Ham-speaking people?

    • (Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @11:02AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @11:02AM (#837788)

      Cultural Marxist Left: "White" people don't even exist!

      also Cultural Marxist Left: "Old White Cis Gendered Men are responsible for all the world's evils!"

      Nation of Islam: "Die white!"

      Sorry, the census form says "White, Black, Hispanic". Black doesn't exist if White doesn't. There's no checkbox for Bantu or Australian Aboriginal. Just like there's no check box for Celt vs Nord.

      By convention White means Light Skinned people European Descent, and is one of the most genocided groups in the world, who now make up only 8% of the world's population.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 03 2019, @06:37AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 03 2019, @06:37AM (#838327)

        Islam does not need to kill all of the whites. They can breed them out of existence by force.

        Great Britain is in the throes of a Muslim rape and pedophilia epidemic unlike anything the country has experienced in living memory. Many of the sex crimes are being perpetrated by Muslim child grooming gangs responsible for drugging, raping and torturing hundreds and possibly thousands of British girls.
        But another wave of sex crimes involves predatory Muslim taxi drivers who are raping female passengers. The number of so-called taxi rapes is snowballing to such an extent that a British judge has issued a warning that no woman can expect to be safe while traveling in a cab.
        Moreover, according to a report entitled, “Ending Violence against Women and Girls in the UK,” published by the Home Office in March 2013, only around one in ten women who experience serious sexual assault report it to the police. As a result, one can infer that the actual number of taxi rapes across Britain as a whole is far greater than many are willing to admit.
        A PARTIAL LIST
        In a recent case in London that was reported by national newspapers, Mohamed Hacene-Chaouch, 46, was sentenced to seven years in prison for raping a 24-year-old female passenger in his unlicensed taxi. In Windsor, Anshul Sharma was charged with raping a 19-year-old woman who mistook his car for a legitimate taxi.
        In Blackburn on July 9, Talib Hussain, 62, was charged with sexually assaulting a 16-year-old girl, a passenger in his taxi.
        In Blackpool on July 8, Turkish-born Fatih Top, 38, was charged with raping an 18-year-old woman who was a passenger in his cab.
        In Shrewsbury on July 6, Ahmet Baser, 34, was sentenced to seven-and-a-half years in prison for raping an underage girl in his taxi.
        In Nottingham on June 12, police said they were looking for an “Asian” (Muslim) taxi driver who sexually assaulted a 19-year-old passenger in his cab.
        In Berkshire on May 21, Arshad Arif, 28, appeared at the Reading Crown Court on charges of raping a 17-year-old passenger twice.
        In Oldham on May 16, Tamur Yaqub, 32, was sentenced to eight years in prison after being convicted of attempting to rape a 15-year-old girl in the back of his car.
        In Hemel Hempstead on May 7, Mashain Pitchei, 45, was sentenced to four years in prison for raping a 20-year-old female passenger.
        In Heaton on April 11, Mohammed Akram, 35, pled guilty to sexually assaulting a woman in his taxi.
        In Manchester on February 18, Elhadi Sakhri, 42, was sentenced to seven years and ten months for two counts of raping men who were passengers in his taxi.
        In London on February 6, police said they were looking for an “Asian” (Muslim) man accused of sexually assaulting three women in the Canning Town district.
        In Leeds on January 9, Mohammed Shahin, 28, was sentenced to seven years in prison for raping a 20-year-old passenger who fell asleep in his taxi as he drove her home.
        In Accrington, Mohammed Ishaq, 38, was accused of raping a 35-year-old female passenger after taking her home.
        Also in Accrington, Mohammed Baig, 45, was accused of sexually assaulting an 18-year-old passenger.
        In Billingham, Khalile Maqsood, 31, was sentenced to eight-and-a-half years in prison for abducting and raping a 20-year-old female passenger at knifepoint.
        In East Sussex, Abul Malik, 29, was jailed for seven years after being found guilty of raping a 19-year-old female passenger.
        In Edinburgh, Ibrahim Selman fled Scotland after raping a woman and assaulting several others while working as a taxi driver.
        In Hull, Masoud Rahimi, 37, was convicted of sexually assaulting a 20-year-old female passenger.
        In London, Salam Rahman, 27, and Mohammed Elahi, 26, were jailed for nine years for gang-raping two female passengers, one of whom was a 26-year-old newlywed.
        In Clapham, south London, Atiq Rehman, 20, tricked a 22-year-old woman into thinking he was a legitimate taxi driver. Rehman, an illegal immigrant from Pakistan who was twice refused asylum in Britain, raped the woman for 45 minutes while asking her how many children she wanted to have.
        At King’s Cross in central London, police said they were looking for a Turkish cab driver who raped an 18-year-old passenger after driving her to a remote location. After the attack, he took her to Gloucester Place in Westminster where he pushed her from his vehicle and left her lying in a gutter.
        In Manchester, Shahjahan Islam was sentenced to nine years in prison for sexually assaulting a 27-year-old female passenger. DNA recovered from the woman led officers to identify Islam as the suspect.
        In Newport, South Wales, Asif Iqbal, was sentenced to 12 years in prison for raping two female passengers on late-night rides home.
        In Portsmouth, Muhammed Hasan, 35, was accused of locking a 19-year-old woman with learning disabilities into his cab and sexually assaulting her.
        In St. Helens, Mazish Muzaffar, 43, was charged with assaulting a female passenger in his taxi.
        In Sheffield, Zahoor Mahmood, 40, was jailed for eight years for sexually assaulting two female passengers.
        In Teesside, Pakistani-born Liaqat Ali, 42, was sentenced to seven years in prison for raping a 16-year-old passenger as she dozed off drunk in his taxi. Ali — a married father of four — stopped for the girl in Middlesbrough and drove her to a secluded spot, where he attacked her. Ali admitted to picking the victim up but denied anything had happened. Once results of DNA evidence were obtained, he admitted to having lied.

    • (Score: 1) by notrandom on Thursday May 02 2019, @12:36PM (3 children)

      by notrandom (5820) on Thursday May 02 2019, @12:36PM (#837819)

      Being about USA, I think TFA means to say Latinos not Spaniards or Portuguese...

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @03:14PM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @03:14PM (#837910)

        Are Portuguese even human? Lisbon is dirtier than most cities in Africa or South American. Portuguese are probably a subspecies.

        • (Score: 4, Informative) by aiwarrior on Thursday May 02 2019, @05:05PM

          by aiwarrior (1812) on Thursday May 02 2019, @05:05PM (#837976) Journal

          > Are Portuguese even human? Lisbon is dirtier than most cities in Africa or South American. Portuguese are probably a subspecies.

          Portuguese here. Lisbon is not Portugal, as London is not England.

          I am feeding a troll, but I am curious why are we not human? I know Devin Nunes is not a great specimen of our descendence but he was indeed elected by popular vote in the USA, and last time I checked it requires one to be a citizen, therefore a human to be elected to the American Congress. There are specimens like the current UN secretary general (a loser in my opinion, but hey the world seems to like it).

          As you maybe are not aware but Lisbon is over-crowded by tourists and they bring their own problems. If you did not know Madona is living in Lisbon for 2 years now and she got recently shocked when her request to bring a horse into a 19th century palace was rejected[1]. She wanted to use the horse to record some footage and she was upset when her request was rejected because it would damage the place. Can you imagine we actually cared about the place? It's amazing how we sub-humans do it.

          Dear anon, i guess you had a bad experience, please hang around a bit more in Portugal next time you visit. Visit the beautiful Atlantic coast[2], the countryside, and our food[3]. We also have islands which many people find quite nice[4]. People seem to enjoy the Portuguese people in general and we are a more calm kind of Iberian. I am an emigrant in Poland and I do not hear people complaining about Portuguese also. Oh, I am darker, so the moorish kind of sub-human. If you ever find your self in need of travel advice in Portugal message me on Soylent and I will oblige.

          As we say often in Portugal, and an expression my polish friends like a lot:
          Calma ;)

          [1] https://observador.pt/2019/03/27/madonna-um-cavalo-e-o-palacete-incidente-diplomatico-chegou-a-vanity-fair/ [observador.pt]
          [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vila_Nova_de_Milfontes [wikipedia.org]
          [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_cuisine [wikipedia.org]
          [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_islands_of_Portugal [wikipedia.org]

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @06:07PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @06:07PM (#838018)

          the portugese imported african slaves and allowed migrants from their former african colonies. when they were white they were one of the most dominant countries on earth.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @05:46PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @05:46PM (#838008)

      you're missing something. hispanics have a link to spain via the language and usually blood but are mixed with mongoloids (asians) which are not white/Aryan. this is where the discrepancy comes from.

  • (Score: -1, Troll) by realDonaldTrump on Thursday May 02 2019, @08:27AM (1 child)

    by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Thursday May 02 2019, @08:27AM (#837723) Homepage Journal

    Restore the rule of corrupt, power-hungry globalists. You know what a globalist is, right? A globalist is a person that wants the globe to do well, frankly not caring about our Country so much. And, you know what? We can’t have that.

    You know, they have a word. It sort of became old-fashioned. It’s called a nationalist. And I say, really? We’re not supposed to use that word. You know what I am? I’m a nationalist. OK? I’m a nationalist. MAGA!!!!

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by aristarchus on Thursday May 02 2019, @09:32AM

      by aristarchus (2645) on Thursday May 02 2019, @09:32AM (#837746) Journal

      Donald is not white. His grandfuerer was from Swabia, in the Black Forest. Black. And he was born in Jamaica, so not legally the president of the United States. And he has fomented and incited racist submissions like this to SoylentNews, saying "there were good racists on both sides". Oy, vey!

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Kell on Thursday May 02 2019, @08:31AM (50 children)

    by Kell (292) on Thursday May 02 2019, @08:31AM (#837724)

    Seriously, this is not what the green site was for and it should not be what the red site is for. This is not news for nerds, or even stuff that matters. It's flamebait pure and simple.

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    • (Score: 5, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @08:56AM (39 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @08:56AM (#837733)

      And you know what, it's also the straw that broke the camel's back for me. I could -barely- tolerate having that stupid donald dump account around, but this is just about enough I think. The site is removed from my bookmarks already and the fuck if I'm going to try to hunt the site down again after I close this window.

      Pretty sad when I think about it, a few years back prior to the dump taking office I was actually starting to think it'd be worth contributing to the site - there was a time when I -almost- subscribed officially and was looking into donating, but then the bias really started to show and it's been downhill since.

      So fuck you editors. I've got better things to do with my time.

      • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Kell on Thursday May 02 2019, @09:44AM (38 children)

        by Kell (292) on Thursday May 02 2019, @09:44AM (#837751)

        I too used to be a subscriber. No more, I'm afraid. I shall never again comment on the green site, but I'm rapidly losing my patience with this one too.

        Soylent News was always the people that made it up, but now I'm not so sure that we're the people we used to be.

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        • (Score: 5, Insightful) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday May 02 2019, @09:55AM (30 children)

          I'm pretty sure it isn't the community that's changed. Even just four years ago we could have at least discussed the fact that national demographics are changing without anyone wanting to take their ball and go home.

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          • (Score: 2) by Alfred on Thursday May 02 2019, @01:45PM (4 children)

            by Alfred (4006) on Thursday May 02 2019, @01:45PM (#837849) Journal
            As a bunch of nerds I would think we could discuss statistics and numbers to find something unexpected or interesting without going crazy over the related text.
            • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday May 03 2019, @12:52AM

              Zactly.

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            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 03 2019, @02:24AM (2 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 03 2019, @02:24AM (#838256)

              Would totally be able to do that if it wasn't for the massive amount of racism that floats around here, direct and otherwise. Even then, without racism the only comments would be "soooo what?" Who the fuck cares about the ratio of light to dark skinned humans that live in the country?

              • (Score: 2) by Alfred on Friday May 03 2019, @02:14PM (1 child)

                by Alfred (4006) on Friday May 03 2019, @02:14PM (#838403) Journal
                Such fear of possible racism and finding it everywhere it isn't prevents an accurate analysis of the data. Preoccupation with finding racism causes a bias where you reflexively discard any data-supported-conclusion you don't like. Therefore bias propagates bias and you should be ashamed of yourself.

                Who cares? Anyone bright enough to read statistics or observed differences in culture. For hyperbole, one culture is more likely to see education as good and another is more likely to shoot cops (because their culture glorifies it in song). These cultures don't perfectly line up with race but most people round it off to race which isn't truly correct. But when you are concerned about your safety you err on the side of caution and round it off to be safe.
                • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 03 2019, @06:08PM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 03 2019, @06:08PM (#838490)

                  Thanks for making my point for me, clutch yer pearls harder dipshit. You start off by criticizing fear of racism, then you go off on a racist rant.

                  QED motherfucking racist asshole

          • (Score: 4, Insightful) by exaeta on Thursday May 02 2019, @04:29PM (3 children)

            by exaeta (6957) on Thursday May 02 2019, @04:29PM (#837955) Homepage Journal

            I agree. One of my pet peeves is the quasi-religious villification of white people.

            Anyone who wants to discuss facts is autolabelled a racist or neo-nazi, misogynist, etc.. This has the unfortunate side effect that the term "nazi" has lost all significance and when someone is called a nazi I longer give any weight to the claim. One person's neo-nazi is another persons rational memo writer (like James Damore).

            I think James Damore is a good case example. There was nothing remotely misogynistic about his memo. The neo-feminists reacted to his memo with vitrol and made his life uncomfortable. That was quite the failure of social justice. Even if we don't agree with him, we should be allowed to rationally discuss the issues. But there in lies the problem with neo-liberals (SJWs) in general, they aren't rational, and they wont discuss.

            There are some real issues with racial and gender equality, affecting multiple groups. The only way I expect we can peacefully resolve these conflicts is by genuine legal equallity. Trying to obtain equality of outcome will lead only to more bickering about which side is being favored unfairly. Eventually riots, and finally we will end up with something like IRA. I don't think the neo-liberal agenda will end peacefully if they continue to stay in power.

            The resurgence of neo-nationalism (which is far more common than literal nazism) is a problem, indeed. But we have to take a step back and face certain realities, that supressing speech is an evil in and of itself. The whole reason people turn to neo-nationalism is becauss they percieve that there is a threat of white genocide, however unlikely that is from your perspective. Calling them mean names is not likely to convince them that they are wrong, and just dehumanizes you to them.

            Truth be told, they believe it because there are legitimate instances of whites being discriminated against, and the neo-liberals refuse to acknowledge that it is a problem. Why neo-liberals can't just say "all discrimination is bad" and give up affirmative action ia beyond me.

            I've been saying this for a LOOOOONG time. Affirmative Action WILL lead to continuing and escalating violence. At current rates of tension, I estimate we have about 5 to 10 years before a bloody civil war. Why the hell can't we just put the sticks down and start treating people fairly and also maintain room for free speech?

            Free speech is the answer to this conflict. If people can calm down and just talk about the issues rationally, maybe we could come to see the evident solutions, such as not discriminating on race or gender, and recognizing the inherent gender biases we have (including mind you, the ones that favor women unfairly), and counteract them. But free speech also means not attacking people for using a different pronoun than you prefer, tolerating people calling you mean names, etc. Free Speech includes a "deal with it" provision that neo-liberals seem to have forgotten.

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            • (Score: 0, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @06:26PM (2 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @06:26PM (#838027)

              What a bunch of whiny snowflake bullshit.

              "But free speech also means not attacking people for using a different pronoun than you prefer"

              We already have laws against assault, if you feel like you have been wronged you are free to file a police report and prosecute to the full extent of the law.

              Oh, wait. You mean "attacked" verbally... So it is ok for YOU to be an asshole but if someone calls you mean names because they don't like your behavior then THEY are the ones who need correcting and to respect your "freedom of speech".

              Whiny entitled hypocritical bullshit.

              • (Score: 2) by exaeta on Friday May 03 2019, @12:17AM (1 child)

                by exaeta (6957) on Friday May 03 2019, @12:17AM (#838200) Homepage Journal
                I'm actually referring to the literal violent attacks figurative attacks on people via employment status, retaliation against individuals by school boards, and courts sending fathers to jail for using the wrong pronoun (such as the Canada case) etc. I have no issue with the bickering back and forth, but I see no reason to tolerate the type of retaliation we actually see, which goes far beyond that.
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                • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 03 2019, @09:52PM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 03 2019, @09:52PM (#838578)

                  Some of those are overboard reactions, some are not. How about you go tell the religious abortion clinic bombers to go fuck off before you start whining about social consequences?

                  Clue Alert: there is no "solution" to social consequences. If you do something incredibly distasteful and others find out about it there is nothing you can do to stop them from not wanting you around. Perhaps labor laws are the solution you're looking for, and if those don't include exemptions for "personal beliefs" then you should start working locally to get such protections in place. *SPOILER ALERT* those protections will probably help out people conservatives don't like so good luck with that.

          • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday May 02 2019, @05:18PM (20 children)

            by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Thursday May 02 2019, @05:18PM (#837991) Journal

            I warned you, Uzzard. You've been playing to the alt-right and white supremacist crowd, and the decent people are leaving. Now they're leaving in droves. You didn't listen. None of the eds listened.

            There is a saying you're fond of, "what you subsidize, you get more of." Hmm. There may be an application here...

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            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @06:11PM (1 child)

              by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @06:11PM (#838021)

              the decent people? lmao.

              • (Score: 3, Informative) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday May 02 2019, @07:00PM

                by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Thursday May 02 2019, @07:00PM (#838046) Journal

                Yeah, the ones who aren't like you. We've been reduced to this...

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            • (Score: 2) by exaeta on Friday May 03 2019, @12:21AM (11 children)

              by exaeta (6957) on Friday May 03 2019, @12:21AM (#838202) Homepage Journal
              I don't see how disagreement or talking about issues makes you a White Supremacist. I think that both sides deserve to be heard, even if it's just to give the rest of us an opportunity to see which side is the dumb one.
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              • (Score: 5, Informative) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday May 03 2019, @12:40AM (10 children)

                by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Friday May 03 2019, @12:40AM (#838210) Journal

                Neither of those do. But as someone said upthread earlier, it's possible to be stating a fact and still have an agenda.

                Here's an example: the people saying "its OK to be white." Virtually no one is saying otherwise, and the few who are are just nuts. But think about what this statement is supposed to preload: it is supposed to "prime" people to believe that there is some kind of credible threat to "being white," that the person making the statement is some kind of underdog, and then there's the attempt to co-opt the language of actually oppressed underclasses.

                And then they get all huffy when someone points out what they're doing, no less. It's a nasty little sleight-of-hand, and not many people are quick enough on the draw to catch it and point it out. These people are not arguing in good faith, and it shows; tweak them a bit and they go into full-on 14 Words mode.

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                • (Score: 2, Disagree) by exaeta on Friday May 03 2019, @03:52AM (9 children)

                  by exaeta (6957) on Friday May 03 2019, @03:52AM (#838290) Homepage Journal
                  There's plenty of evidence showing that being white gives you a disadvantage, particularly in academics. Affirmative action is all over the place. The belief that whites are favored is false in many areas of the U.S..
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                  • (Score: 2, Flamebait) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday May 03 2019, @02:30PM (8 children)

                    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Friday May 03 2019, @02:30PM (#838412) Journal

                    You...cannot...be...serious. Even limiting the scope to education alone, do you just ignore how much public schools suck in largely minority districts? That's to say nothing of everything else from housing, safety, lead in the paint, lead in the goddamn drinking water, poverty, violence, crime...

                    No one in this day and age of internet access to the relevant facts has any right to say something like that. The amount of sheer willful ignorance it takes to look at life in the US and conclude that of all groups us whites have a disadvantage is staggering. You have crossed the threshold over which Hanlon's Razor loses its edge, where incompetence itself becomes malignant.

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                    • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 03 2019, @09:56PM

                      by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 03 2019, @09:56PM (#838580)

                      Sadly they are completely serious and bitching about the 10% handouts given to correct such systemic fuck ups. These fuckers just want all the privileges.

                    • (Score: 2) by exaeta on Saturday May 04 2019, @06:17PM (6 children)

                      by exaeta (6957) on Saturday May 04 2019, @06:17PM (#838913) Homepage Journal

                      I have every "right" to say what I want. You're free to think/say I'm wrong, of course. I am of course, not talking about disadvantage of outcome, but disadvantage in government treatment.

                      Poor neighborhoods do provide less effective education, but affirmative action is based on race and not wealth, so it's not exactly a good argument for race based affirmative action.

                      When I said white people are being disadvantaged by the government, I mean the government specifically discriminates against white people. You can argue it is "justified" because of racial disparities, but pretending this is not discrimination is not rational. The facts as you might say already show that the government can and does discriminate against whites in admissions for the "compelling purpose" of "racial diversity". Court judgments by the Supreme Court explicitly allow this discrimination.

                      Specifically, discrimination against whites intended to "fix" other discrimination by "balancing it out" is still discrimination. A lot of people feel this way, and as far as they are concerned you are oppressing them by giving non-whites special favors. And you know what? They're correct in that they are being discriminated against.

                      Neo-liberals refuse to admit this fact, which makes the alt-right quite afraid of them, and rightfully so, it seems. The fact you even refuse to discuss whether or not this racial discrimination is justified, too much, too little, etc. shows that you are disrespecting their humanity. So I completely understand why people are driven to the alt-right. The alt-right is a product of fear, not racism.

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                      • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday May 04 2019, @07:49PM (5 children)

                        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Saturday May 04 2019, @07:49PM (#838942) Journal

                        I've said several times I believe affirmative action is not the solution we need, that it's a liberal white-guilt bandaid on a festering, spreading, 300+-year-old lymphoma of systematic, de jure, and de facto racism. Obviously you'd rather have the bandaid than nothing at all, but it's gotten too many people complacent.

                        No, if lawmakers (including self-proclaimed "liberals") were serious about this, they'd be addressing the problems that ethnic minority groups face far, far earlier, before birth in fact. Someone who grew up in substandard housing with poor food, a broken family, danger all around, and crap primary school is not going to be served by getting admitted into a college he or she was never properly prepared for. Fix the fucking water supply in Flint first, for example.

                        But no politician, of *any* stripe, seems to even want to admit this, let alone do anything about it.

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                        • (Score: 2) by exaeta on Saturday May 04 2019, @08:18PM (4 children)

                          by exaeta (6957) on Saturday May 04 2019, @08:18PM (#838949) Homepage Journal
                          The de jure discrimination ended a long time ago. Currently there is active discrimination against poor people, most of whom happen to be black. I assure you though, it's not any better for poor white people. Small governments (municipalities) have issues with corruption. We need to ensure they are held accountable. But they never are, due to various legal immunities. The same thing leads to unjustified murders of unarmed citizens. I'm in favor of repealing the 11th amendment/banning all immunities, or at least an amendment restoring the 11th Amendment to its original meaning v.s. judicial reinterpretation.
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                          • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday May 04 2019, @10:40PM (3 children)

                            by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Saturday May 04 2019, @10:40PM (#839006) Journal

                            You are speaking to someone who knows very well what challenges face the poor. It *is* slightly better to be poor and white than poor and black, but at this point, not enough to make much difference. We need to unite, and we needed to do it yesterday.

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                            • (Score: 2) by exaeta on Saturday May 04 2019, @11:00PM (2 children)

                              by exaeta (6957) on Saturday May 04 2019, @11:00PM (#839012) Homepage Journal

                              I disagree, but I also think it depends on what part of the United States you live in, so I do understand why you might not believe it. Over here there are affirmative action programs helping out poor blacks but not poor whites. Some states don't allow that, some do. The Supreme Court gave these types of things a thumbs up, unfortunately.

                              One problem, though, is that throwing money at a problem rarely fixes it. Sometimes thebest correction is deregulation, as scary as that sounds. Deregulation can enable bad actors, but it also enables good ones. In some areas, the benefits from enabling more people into an area (like renting, etc.) can outweigh the potential downsides.

                              One way to fix housing problems is to deregulate zoning so more homes can be built, simplify the building permit application process, etc.

                              Making homes meet rigorous standards is likely to prevent new ones being built, ironically, because people find the beuracracy a pain in the ass and just decide to leave the old buildings in place instead. Either that or the cost gets added onto the home's price tag upon sale. Don't limit the number of people per dwelling, and allow anyone to rent. There are lots of things that can get done, but likely wont, because suburban soccer moms don't give a f*** about anyone but themselves. (I'm going to bet half of our problems can be explained by the voting habits of this particular block)

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                              • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday May 04 2019, @11:49PM (1 child)

                                by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Saturday May 04 2019, @11:49PM (#839020) Journal

                                Don't light a furnace to burn a hair. Utter deregulation will just produce more lead-tainted slums. These new homes need to meet certain minimum standards in order to be fit to live in, if only because the effects of substandard housing down the road are more expensive and more deleterious to society than the effects of building codes. Zoning needs to stop being stupid, yes, but no more lead paint and no more structurally-unsound building.

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                                • (Score: 2) by exaeta on Sunday May 05 2019, @12:18AM

                                  by exaeta (6957) on Sunday May 05 2019, @12:18AM (#839029) Homepage Journal
                                  I have no problem with basic building codes, but in practice it's like "pay the city $1000 for a permit to resurface your driveway" and such. So it goes way beyond what is sensible in a lot of cities.
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            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 03 2019, @12:26AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 03 2019, @12:26AM (#838203)

              No one screaming that, ever left anywhere without getting banned. And more often than not, getting rid of the pest requires banning multiple sockpuppet accounts.

            • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday May 03 2019, @12:54AM (4 children)

              Traffic patterns do not support your assertion.

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              • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday May 03 2019, @12:58AM (3 children)

                by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Friday May 03 2019, @12:58AM (#838221) Journal

                So a good chunk of this thread never happened then...? Riiiight.

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                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 03 2019, @06:12PM (2 children)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 03 2019, @06:12PM (#838495)

                  I truly don't believe TMB is racist, however that makes him a colossal fucking moron trying to play the "free speech just facts" card.

                  • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday May 03 2019, @06:26PM (1 child)

                    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Friday May 03 2019, @06:26PM (#838505) Journal

                    He's not the kind of racist who would don a white sheet with holes in it and a dunce cap and go burn a cross on black peoples' lawns. His is more the casual (I won't say benign...) form of it, that either doesn't know or knows and doesn't care about the structural and de facto problems with race in this country and is perfectly okay with it. It's the difference between actively hitting someone with your car vs. seeing it happen and rubbernecking around to take pictures instead of calling 911.

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                    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 03 2019, @09:58PM

                      by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 03 2019, @09:58PM (#838581)

                      Yaaaa, I'm ever hopeful that shit-stains like him are just deluded "free thinkers". Hell, I'm one of them!! I frequently give people the benefit of the doubt even though it is usually statistically a bad idea.

        • (Score: 5, Informative) by Phoenix666 on Thursday May 02 2019, @01:22PM (4 children)

          by Phoenix666 (552) on Thursday May 02 2019, @01:22PM (#837839) Journal

          If you don't like the stories that are submitted, submit better ones. If you don't like the stories that get chosen for the queue, volunteer to be an editor and join that conversation on IRC. Heck, just go to the IRC channel and participate in the conversation as a non-editor.

          Communities only work when everyone pitches in to make it work. When people substitute complaint for action, communities break down. Those doing all the work get worn down and walk away. Then everyone loses.

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          • (Score: 3, Funny) by aristarchus on Thursday May 02 2019, @06:02PM (1 child)

            by aristarchus (2645) on Thursday May 02 2019, @06:02PM (#838015) Journal

            If you don't like the stories that are submitted, submit better ones. If you don't like the stories that are submitted, submit better ones.

            Tried that. Didn't work.

            • (Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 03 2019, @12:30AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 03 2019, @12:30AM (#838205)

              Spamming the site with inane sophistry, certainly won't. However much you wish otherwise.

          • (Score: 2) by Kell on Friday May 03 2019, @02:42AM (1 child)

            by Kell (292) on Friday May 03 2019, @02:42AM (#838264)

            It's fair comment, but honestly it's only the rare story that bothers me. Generally it's the hyper-politicised comments, of either stripe. I have no problem with people discussing politics, it's just that that isn't what the green site or what this site were originally intended to be. Thus, it no longer appeals to me as much.

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            • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Friday May 03 2019, @12:59PM

              by Phoenix666 (552) on Friday May 03 2019, @12:59PM (#838374) Journal

              This is a hyper-politicized time. It makes me sad to observe that, but it is.

              I don't know of any place besides this where both sides can and still do speak in the same space. It's often rough, but it's healthier than everybody retreating into discursive bubbles or, worse, silence.

              You gotta do what you gotta do, but just thought I'd put that out there.

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @03:05PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @03:05PM (#837907)

          but now I'm not so sure that we're the people we used to be.

          Exactly the point of TFA. Thank you.

        • (Score: 5, Insightful) by tangomargarine on Thursday May 02 2019, @03:26PM

          by tangomargarine (667) on Thursday May 02 2019, @03:26PM (#837918)

          Me three. There used to be civil conversation here, but now it's mostly a handful of people screaming at each other, calling each other names, and dubious political rants.

          The last thing I fucking need is a guy impersonating Donald Trump to constantly remind me that asswipe is still around, either.

          Really not sure why I still come here. /. died and SN followed it the last year or two.

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    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @09:32AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @09:32AM (#837747)

      Not sure, 5 years back we would have had a discussion about demographics with racist trolls being modded down or challenged. This nonsense where everything has to be viewed through an intersectional lens has poisoned all public discourse.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @02:30PM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @02:30PM (#837880)

      Is the truth flamebait? Because if those numbers are correct then this article is noting the passing of a race from the world.

      • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @03:57PM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @03:57PM (#837935)

        Is the truth flamebait? Because if those numbers are correct then this article is noting the passing of a race from the world.

        My, my, my...just a tad strident and shrill, wouldn't you say? The article was about the changing demographics of the USA. While we are the last standing super power, that doesn't quite make us the entire world. Also,--and I say this as someone who is ethnically 100% white Aryan--what the hell is so God-awful wrong with no longer being the majority in the USA? Our nation is (supposedly) built on shared political ideals. You know, things like republican form of government in which we elect someone from among us to represent us in our government, equality under the law, etc? Remember those American ideals? Do you honestly think that cannot happen if white people are no longer the majority in this country? Frankly, I'm getting the distinct impression that white America is long overdue for a reality check!

        • (Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @06:34PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @06:34PM (#838031)

          Of course it won't continue to work without a white majority. Just look at the history of the world. Every time the white majority was destroyed (usually through whites being stupid and bringing in slave labor, tribal warfare and/or annexing too much foreign land and their peoples) the culture and the nation state fell apart. It's not a coincidence. Also, your version of the history and ideals of the US are straight out of the jewish multicultural propaganda history books being used to reeducate the goyim. All men are created equal meant Aryan "men": Not every male hominid on earth. Lincoln never intended for the African slaves to stay here either.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @06:58PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @06:58PM (#838043)

            Also, your version of the history and ideals of the US are straight out of the jewish multicultural propaganda history books being used to reeducate the goyim.

            Actually, my version of the ideals of this country come straight out of The Federalist Papers. [loc.gov] You may want to read them some time.

    • (Score: 2, Interesting) by khallow on Thursday May 02 2019, @04:47PM (4 children)

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Thursday May 02 2019, @04:47PM (#837970) Journal

      Seriously, this is not what the green site was for and it should not be what the red site is for.

      So massive demographic changes in the largest countries in the world aren't news? My view, OTOH, is that these demographic changes explain a lot of the turmoil in the developed world today which is quite newsworthy.

      • (Score: 2) by Kell on Friday May 03 2019, @02:46AM (3 children)

        by Kell (292) on Friday May 03 2019, @02:46AM (#838267)

        If it's news, then it's not "news for nerds" regardless, and I certainly disagree that race matters.

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        • (Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday May 05 2019, @04:27PM (2 children)

          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday May 05 2019, @04:27PM (#839268) Journal

          If it's news, then it's not "news for nerds" regardless

          So it doesn't go on Slashdot, right?

          and I certainly disagree that race matters.

          To you. Apparently it matters to a lot of other people.

          • (Score: 2) by Kell on Monday May 06 2019, @10:20PM (1 child)

            by Kell (292) on Monday May 06 2019, @10:20PM (#839874)

            The fact that race "matters" to so many people, seems to be the bigger part of the problems with race.

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            • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday May 13 2019, @04:00AM

              by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday May 13 2019, @04:00AM (#842835) Journal

              The fact that race "matters" to so many people

              So it does matter after all. I wager ignoring inconvenient facts is a large part of the bigger part of the problem.

  • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @08:51AM (12 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @08:51AM (#837730)

    Could we not have had a nice, non-racist, aristarchus submission instead of this alt-right claptrap?

    • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday May 02 2019, @09:21AM (8 children)

      After you went and spammed the entire fuck out of this story? Nah.

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      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by aristarchus on Thursday May 02 2019, @09:33AM (7 children)

        by aristarchus (2645) on Thursday May 02 2019, @09:33AM (#837748) Journal

        Are you even remotely suggesting it is not deserved?

        • (Score: 5, Informative) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday May 02 2019, @09:50AM (6 children)

          Deserve has nothing to do with it. Shitting up any potential conversation with massive amounts of top-level AC posts so nobody but admins can see it's all the same person ain't fucking cool.

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          • (Score: -1, Troll) by aristarchus on Thursday May 02 2019, @10:04AM (5 children)

            by aristarchus (2645) on Thursday May 02 2019, @10:04AM (#837764) Journal

            Putting racist shit like this on the Front page is even less cool. You are killing SoylentNews. Not my doing. You are killing SoylentNews.

            • (Score: 3, Touché) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday May 02 2019, @10:05AM (4 children)

              Facts ain't racist, Ari. TFA was dry as fuck rather than flag-waving either for or against any nationality.

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              • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @10:19AM (3 children)

                by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @10:19AM (#837770)

                TFA is racist. The entire picture to questionaire is fucking disguising,

                https://3c1703fe8d.site.internapcdn.net/newman/csz/news/800/2019/theuswhitema.jpg [internapcdn.net]

                How the fuck is "German" considered "white"? Idiots don't know that nationality has nothing to do with "whiteness"? Why don't we just have "American" under "black" category as example.

                Pieces of shit designing surveys like that should be jailed.

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @09:33AM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @09:33AM (#837749)

      What makes you associate this with the alt-right? It's the sort of thing the globalist left loves to brag about.

      The submission itself is dry facts. You're reading more into it. That shows your own bias.

      Also, FWIW, the alt-right got badly smeared by both the left and by groups (religious right, libertarian right) competing for control of the republican party. I suppose at this point it's like Richard Stallman defending the non-malicious use of the word "hacker", but the alt-right is not what you imply it to be. It's just people who want to put America first, and that has nothing to do with race. It's plain nationalism. It's about a shared culture (language, dietary restrictions, clothing restrictions, honesty/corruption, government/individualism) and about teaming up together for a common defense and for the generation of prosperity.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @02:51PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @02:51PM (#837897)

        VLM posting anon.

        What 'shared' culture does exist between German and British? Last I checked it hasn't been 100 years since both fought and brought the world to the brink of destruction. Of course, the people who actually fought the most in those wars were non-White.

        You racist shits won't spend an iota effort in reading actual history because then you will have to say that racism is wrong. Seriously, what exactly you mean by "shared culture"? Literally, list the traits of the culture.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @06:30PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @06:30PM (#838029)

        Jesus, did a portal open up to 1920?

  • (Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @08:54AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @08:54AM (#837732)

    Never attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence.

    But the eds are pushing it here. Do they just not recognize the loaded alt-right nature of the submission, and so act out of incompetence? Or do they know full well, and thus are racist fucks? If it is the later, I will no longer have anything to do with this site. Hasta la Vista, Cabron!

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by PiMuNu on Thursday May 02 2019, @09:10AM (8 children)

    by PiMuNu (3823) on Thursday May 02 2019, @09:10AM (#837736)

    Eds, please, please do not push this crap on us.

    • (Score: 4, Informative) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday May 02 2019, @09:45AM (7 children)

      If TFA were taking a position on whether it's a good thing or a bad thing, I'd agree. It's not though, just presenting facts on changing demographics.

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      • (Score: 2) by PiMuNu on Thursday May 02 2019, @10:27AM (6 children)

        by PiMuNu (3823) on Thursday May 02 2019, @10:27AM (#837774)

        Posting on here is quite troll/flame-baity but I take your point that the article itself is rather balanced.

        • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday May 02 2019, @10:35AM (5 children)

          Dry and fairly boring, really. If it helps, most of the trolling/baiting of flames has been aristarchus (normally I wouldn't name him but he's already copped to doing it) until he lost AC posting privs for spamming a bunch of top-level comments as AC so it looked like his views might be majority views.

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          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @10:43AM (3 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @10:43AM (#837781)

            Lost? Look again, oh Minty Broussard!

          • (Score: 2) by PiMuNu on Thursday May 02 2019, @10:50AM

            by PiMuNu (3823) on Thursday May 02 2019, @10:50AM (#837784)

            Well I guess at least it keeps the site moving.

  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @09:36AM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @09:36AM (#837750)

    I don't see anything racist about this article. Looks more like SJWs whining here again.

    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday May 02 2019, @09:46AM (1 child)

      Mostly just one SJW whining their entire ass off repeatedly.

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      My rights don't end where your fear begins.
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 03 2019, @10:06PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 03 2019, @10:06PM (#838586)

        Didn't know you considered yourself a warrior of justice. I mean I figured as much with your self-righteous posting patterns, but it is nice to see you cop to it.

    • (Score: 0, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @10:01AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @10:01AM (#837763)

      Found the racist. (Pro-tip, he said "SJW")

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