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posted by takyon on Wednesday May 01 2019, @07:07PM   Printer-friendly
from the from-one-cell-to-another dept.

Submitted via IRC for Runaway1956

Judge blasts Assange for jumping bail, sentences him to almost one year

WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange has been sentenced to 50 weeks in prison for fleeing to the Ecuadorian embassy in London while on bail in 2012. At the time, he was facing possible extradition to Sweden on sexual assault charges.

Assange remained in the embassy until last month, when he was evicted by his Ecuadorian hosts and re-arrested by British authorities.

Wednesday's sentencing is unlikely to be the end of Assange's legal problems. Shortly after he was re-arrested last month, US authorities unsealed an indictment charging him with conspiring with Chelsea Manning to crack a hashed password belonging to a Pentagon computer in 2010. At the time, Manning was an Army private leaking confidential military documents to WikiLeaks. Assange was unable to learn the password, but the US argues that his attempt is sufficient to charge him with conspiracy.

In a letter to the court, Assange argued that he had fled to the embassy out of fear that he'd be extradited to the United States and wind up being held indefinitely at the US prison camp at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

Also at BBC, The Guardian, CNET, and The Register.

Previously: Inadvertent Court Filing Suggests that the U.S. DoJ is Preparing to Indict Julian Assange
U.S. Ramping Up Probe Against Julian Assange, WikiLeaks Says
Ecuador Denies That Julian Assange Will be Evicted From Embassy in London
Wikileaks Co-Founder Julian Assange Arrested at the Ecuadorian Embassy in London
Julian Assange Associate Arrested In Ecuador


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  • (Score: 5, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @07:11PM (13 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @07:11PM (#837482)

    No credit for time served in the Embassy?

    • (Score: 4, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @07:16PM (7 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @07:16PM (#837485)

      "Julian Assange has never been charged with anything in Sweden. He was merely “wanted for questioning”, a fact the MSM repeatedly failed to make clear. It is now undeniably plain that there was never the slightest intention of charging him with anything in Sweden. All those Blairite MPs who seek to dodge the glaring issue of freedom of the media to publish whistleblower material revealing government crimes, by hiding behind trumped-up sexual allegations, are left looking pretty stupid."

      https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2019/04/so-where-is-the-swedish-warrant/ [craigmurray.org.uk]

      • (Score: 3, Informative) by bussdriver on Wednesday May 01 2019, @07:52PM

        by bussdriver (6876) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday May 01 2019, @07:52PM (#837505)

        They will have to pull even more crazy stuff to bring expired laws back. Even then the main crime they started with in Sweden was a dead law their court threw out before that 2 experts back then said would be similar to "involuntary rape" in the USA which is why it failed to be successfully used before wikileaks. Making the whole thing even less credible; aside from the fact they dropped the whole thing and let him leave their country until another the USA found another official to bring up charges to grab him. Remember, years later saying they couldn't do video interviews despite doing video interviews for MURDER suspects.

        The PURPOSE is to make an example out of anybody who messes with the empire even if they are not under jurisdiction or working as press. The smear campaign (some of which was leaked) has continued and worked pretty well. Assange hasn't helped himself either... Any FAIR person would give him time served, 9 years vs 1 of a nice British prison... If he had known that was all, he'd have volunteered to only lose 1 year of his life.

        NOTE: Hillary people FORGET it was the FBI, not Wikileaks! She rebounded from the email leak; the email issue existed before the leak. The last second illegal FBI announcment about NEW emails that came from her assistant's laptop; had nothing to do with Wikileaks. Mostly likely it would have had a BIGGER negative impact if it wasn't the 2nd leak of her emails. But forget that, we love Comey now so lets forget the attack on the Free Press.

      • (Score: 2, Informative) by ikanreed on Wednesday May 01 2019, @08:01PM

        by ikanreed (3164) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday May 01 2019, @08:01PM (#837510) Journal

        I do appreciate the lie [bbc.com]. The wikipedia sources linking the text of the original warrant have fallen off the internet, but the media reporting at the time show pretty clearly there was a EU arrest warrant issued, the necessary item you're saying never existed.

      • (Score: 3, Informative) by isostatic on Wednesday May 01 2019, @08:02PM (3 children)

        by isostatic (365) on Wednesday May 01 2019, @08:02PM (#837511) Journal

        His argument was that by being extradited to Sweden he would then get passed to the U.S.. It's a load off bullshit, as the U.S. could have just as easilly extradited him from the U.K

        The warrant that Sweden was using to get him to answer questions was a European Arrest Warrant, in the same way that Devon and Cornwall police can arrest someone who they believe has gone to Birmingham. No need for charges before arresting someone.

        • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @08:11PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @08:11PM (#837517)

          It's a load off bullshit, as the U.S. could have just as easilly extradited him from the U.K

          You have compared extradition laws between the countries?

          • (Score: 2) by isostatic on Thursday May 02 2019, @08:31AM

            by isostatic (365) on Thursday May 02 2019, @08:31AM (#837725) Journal

            Yes, it's far easier to extradite from the UK than from Sweden.

        • (Score: 5, Interesting) by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us on Wednesday May 01 2019, @09:14PM

          by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us (6553) on Wednesday May 01 2019, @09:14PM (#837548) Journal

          I disagree. I'm pretty sure that obtaining extradition on somebody not currently under detention requires filing an Interpol Red Notice in order to get the person detained, which may or may not work as expected. That requires the cooperation of Interpol. It has far less likelihood of working if the respondent can show that the Red Notice was filed for political reasons or part of a political crime. If someone is already in custody in another country then the extradition process is considerably simplified. "You don't need to arrest that person, they're already in gaol in your country." It would have been considerably easier on the U.S. to launch extradition proceedings if he had been extradited to Sweden. Just as easy as it is now that he is in custody in England. The key words being, "in custody." So the U.S. didn't need Sweden the second that he jumped bail in the U.K. and they knew the Brits would play along.

          I invite correction from someone who has actual knowledge about the process.

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      • (Score: 2) by Nerdfest on Thursday May 02 2019, @04:09AM

        by Nerdfest (80) on Thursday May 02 2019, @04:09AM (#837666)

        I saw something in some article saying the original complain was from a woman who had no evidence, and who had already been kicked out of Cuba for working with the CIA. I have no idea if it's true or not, and I'm assuming reality is falling apart anyway.

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by zocalo on Wednesday May 01 2019, @07:29PM (4 children)

      by zocalo (302) on Wednesday May 01 2019, @07:29PM (#837493)
      He *could* have upto got 52 weeks, so he did get some clemency. It's largely moot anyway; the judge could have let him off with nothing at all because of his self-imposed house arrest, but since he's demonstrably a high flight risk and pending an extradition hearing (the exact same circumstances he was under before he sought asylum) he's almost certainly going to be under lock and key until that gets resolved. Since I suspect he'll try and fight extradition all the way that's likely to be lot longer than the 25 weeks he's actually required to serve.

      Unless the CPS think it'll be done and dusted within 25 weeks, in which case it gives them a justifiable reason for keeping him locked up and largely incommunicdo until they can get him on a plane, presumably to the US since there's no sign of Sweden reopening cases and making a request for him first. Yet.
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      • (Score: 3, Funny) by RamiK on Wednesday May 01 2019, @07:55PM

        by RamiK (1813) on Wednesday May 01 2019, @07:55PM (#837507)

        Nah. The judge just averaged 52 (the number of weeks per year he could barely remember and wasn't sure about) and 48 (12*4) since they couldn't be bothered googling it up and were too embarrassed to ask.

        Ehe, I should probably post this anonymously...

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      • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday May 02 2019, @02:23AM (2 children)

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday May 02 2019, @02:23AM (#837647) Journal

        The US and UK almost certainly have their ducks in a row already. The extradition will proceed, and soon enough, we'll be reading about Julian's appearance in one court or another in the US. A year is plenty of time, considering that both nations have already had years to prepare for it.

        Who doubts that that the UK will cooperate fully with the US extradition request? The UK may not break any laws, but they'll bend, fold, and mutilate any laws necessary to accomplish the mission.

        • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @06:56AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @06:56AM (#837698)

          Funny to think US was a UK colony and now UK is totally US's bitch.

        • (Score: 2) by zocalo on Thursday May 02 2019, @08:27AM

          by zocalo (302) on Thursday May 02 2019, @08:27AM (#837722)
          Yep. If there was ever any doubt this work was going on that should have evaporated when bits of the prosecutor's file leaked a few months back. There's a lot of chatter from MPs that Sweden should have first dibs if they request it, but I suspect that's just cover; they either deeply suspect, or actually know for a fact, he's going to get hit with a lot more than the currently proposed five years if he gets to a US courtroom and are hoping to land the ultimate responsibility for that extradition in the Swedish courts. Given the apparent lack of action from Sweden I suspect they know that too and are not going to take the bait. Totally not shocked that Australia is continuing to ignore the plight of one of their citizens too, probably out of a similar desire to avoid getting involved.

          Of course, the UK's MPs are not meant to have any influence over the judiciary (despite all the "strong hints" above), so I guess it's still *possible* that a judge could block any extradition. There have been a few high profile examples of that, but those were not quite so politically embarassing as Assange's case is so time will tell. They were also generally reliant on the mental state of the accused, and I'm not convinced that Assange wouldn't veto any attempt by his defence to use that kind of argument, but again, time will tell.
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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Gaaark on Wednesday May 01 2019, @08:51PM (3 children)

    by Gaaark (41) on Wednesday May 01 2019, @08:51PM (#837536) Journal

    So bankers fail and cost the economy GREATLY and get their wrists slapped....

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    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us on Wednesday May 01 2019, @09:36PM (1 child)

      by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us (6553) on Wednesday May 01 2019, @09:36PM (#837552) Journal

      They got their wrists slapped? When?

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    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @10:02PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @10:02PM (#837560)

      Slap on the wrist? They gave them the opportunity to get free money via on trillions of dollars they deposited with the Fed:

      But excess reserves increased considerably in 2008, as the Fed expanded the money supply to finance unconventional monetary policy measures such as quantitative easing. As of May 2018, excess reserves are nearly $1.9 trillion, ten times more than required reserves.

      In normal times, excess reserves aren’t profitable, as they don’t earn a return. Instead of holding cash as excess reserves, banks could lend those funds and earn interest. However, after the 2008 recession, the Federal Reserve started paying interest on excess reserves (IOER). By altering the incentives for commercial banks to extend loans or hold excess reserves, the Fed is able to use the IOER as an additional monetary policy tool.

      https://fredblog.stlouisfed.org/2018/06/paying-interest-on-excess-reserves/ [stlouisfed.org]

      They hope it "trickles down" into the real economy, which other posters here will tell you has nothing to do with "trickle down economics" since on the wikipedia page it says that term only applies to tax policy. Giving huge super rich banks free money and hoping they invest it or loan it out is totally different stuff that democrats are allowed to approve of.

  • (Score: 1) by RandomFactor on Wednesday May 01 2019, @09:01PM (4 children)

    by RandomFactor (3682) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday May 01 2019, @09:01PM (#837541) Journal

    In a letter to the court, Assange argued that he had fled to the embassy out of fear that he'd be extradited to the United States and wind up being held indefinitely at the US prison camp at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

    All valid except Guantanamo. I don't see him being shipped to Gitmo.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @09:48PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @09:48PM (#837554)

      You say that like its a bad thing.

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by c0lo on Wednesday May 01 2019, @10:53PM (1 child)

      by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday May 01 2019, @10:53PM (#837585) Journal

      I don't see him being shipped to Gitmo.

      Dam' right you won't, everything will be hushhush, they don't allow the press in such occasions.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @08:31AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @08:31AM (#837726)

        Dam' right you won't, everything will be hushhush, they don't allow the press in such occasions.

        Nah, you can keep a man locked up indefinitely with indefinite prosecution of "newly discovered crimes".

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @01:59AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @01:59AM (#837638)

      I see him being shipped to ADX Florence.

  • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @09:51PM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 01 2019, @09:51PM (#837556)

    Turns out the cat had no outstanding warrants and was released."Thank God", said the cat, "A year cooped up with that moron used up six of my lives. He never flushed the toilet, left dirty socks lying around and cooked smelly ethnic cuisine like vegemite all day long".

    • (Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @12:28AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @12:28AM (#837608)

      The cat was adopted by a Chinaman. He hasn't been heard from since.

    • (Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @12:31AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @12:31AM (#837611)

      The cat was adopted by a Chinaman. He got 30-45 minutes at 375F.

    • (Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @12:36AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @12:36AM (#837612)

      The cat was adopted by a chinaman. He is doing fine.

      • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @02:03AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 02 2019, @02:03AM (#837640)

        And he got a nice cat skin out of the deal too.

  • (Score: 1) by VacuumTube on Thursday May 02 2019, @02:24AM (1 child)

    by VacuumTube (7693) on Thursday May 02 2019, @02:24AM (#837648) Journal

    " Assange was unable to learn the password, but the US argues that his attempt is sufficient to charge him with conspiracy."

    And yet Trump can't be charged with obstruction because the actions he took to thwart the investigation aren't crimes because they sought to prevent discovery of ~10 acts that would have been crimes had they suceeded--according to attorney general Barr, when questioned today by the Senate.

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