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posted by Fnord666 on Tuesday July 09 2019, @09:27AM   Printer-friendly
from the beachfront-property-in-Nevada dept.

Arthur T Knackerbracket has found the following story:

THE CALIFORNIA COAST GREW AND PROSPERED during a remarkable moment in history when the sea was at its tamest. But the mighty Pacific, unbeknownst to all, was nearing its final years of a calm but unusual cycle that had lulled dreaming settlers into a false sense of endless summer.

Elsewhere, Miami has been drowning, Louisiana shrinking, North Carolina's beaches disappearing like a time lapse with no ending. While other regions grappled with destructive waves and rising seas, the West Coast for decades was spared by a rare confluence of favorable winds and cooler water. This "sea level rise suppression," as scientists call it, went largely undetected. Blinded from the consequences of a warming planet, Californians kept building right to the water's edge.

But lines in the sand are meant to shift. In the last 100 years, the sea rose less than 9 inches in California. By the end of this century, the surge could be greater than 9 feet.

-- submitted from IRC


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  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @10:23AM (11 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @10:23AM (#864924)

    How much did it rise in the last 200 years? 300? 1000?

    18 inches, 27 inches and 900 inches?

    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @11:27AM (10 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @11:27AM (#864937)

      Sea levels appear have risen about 120 meters since the last glacial max in a series of pulses and plateaus.
      https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1d/Post-Glacial_Sea_Level.png/1067px-Post-Glacial_Sea_Level.png [wikimedia.org]

      That's about 5,000 in for an average of ~25 in per century. So current rates of rise have been about 1/3rd the average rate. The predicted 108 in rise in a century would be about 4x higher than the average. Neither is unprecedented since the lgm.

      • (Score: 3, Informative) by PiMuNu on Tuesday July 09 2019, @01:02PM (8 children)

        by PiMuNu (3823) on Tuesday July 09 2019, @01:02PM (#864967)

        5,000 years ago, the entire area between the UK and Europe was home to a prosperous neolithic civilisation. Sea level rise has since flooded the entire area.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @03:11PM (4 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @03:11PM (#865000)

          Nothing to worry about then.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @03:16PM (3 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @03:16PM (#865001)

            When Trump[ waves his right arm in the air, the Trumptard becomes hysterical .

            • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Tuesday July 09 2019, @07:48PM (2 children)

              by Gaaark (41) on Tuesday July 09 2019, @07:48PM (#865122) Journal

              What happens when Trump masturbates?

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              • (Score: 2, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @09:36PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @09:36PM (#865165)

                Russia turns on the video cameras.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @09:45PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @09:45PM (#865169)

                Everytime trump masturbates a fact someone doesn't like gets marked troll.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @05:27PM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @05:27PM (#865061)

          and what was the name of this civ? i'm interested in these things.

      • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Wednesday July 10 2019, @12:24AM

        by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday July 10 2019, @12:24AM (#865229) Journal

        careful [xkcd.com]

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @10:44AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @10:44AM (#864930)

    To Big Sur. You won't have any sea flooding there.

  • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Tuesday July 09 2019, @11:07AM (4 children)

    by JoeMerchant (3937) on Tuesday July 09 2019, @11:07AM (#864933)

    California has a hell of a lot more elevation/slope than Florida. You'll lose a very small part of LA as compared to what's going to happen all over the Florida coastline.

    My two houses in Miami were 8.5' and 6' above sea level, and they were very far from the beach.

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    • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @02:32PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @02:32PM (#864985)

      TWO houses in Florida? You're part of the problem, you evil wealthy son of a bitch. Just wait until we elect Bernie and the Climate Jihad gets a hold, you disgusting sinner.

      • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Tuesday July 09 2019, @11:59PM

        by JoeMerchant (3937) on Tuesday July 09 2019, @11:59PM (#865214)

        Yeah, first house I paid $77K for, but it was only 1000 square feet 2 bed, 1 bath - with the 2nd kid on the way we had to sell it and move down elevation a few feet to get a 50 year old 1600 square foot 3 bed, 2 bath. Lap of f-ing luxury that town was.

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    • (Score: 2) by bob_super on Tuesday July 09 2019, @11:38PM (1 child)

      by bob_super (1357) on Tuesday July 09 2019, @11:38PM (#865202)

      You can flood all of L.A. and most will say "good riddance" (half of which don't remember that the worst of the worst live in the hills)...
      BUT I need the continued operation of that main portal to Hell called LAX, at least until some other airport not on the shore takes over intercontinental flights.

      • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Wednesday July 10 2019, @12:02AM

        by JoeMerchant (3937) on Wednesday July 10 2019, @12:02AM (#865215)

        Hey Google, what's the elevation of LAX? 125'

        Hey Google, what's the elevation of MIA? 9'

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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @12:11PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @12:11PM (#864945)

    Who owns real estate near the shore? Mostly rich people ; those same rich people who have huge carbon footprints and being the people ‘in power’ could have taken steps to head off climate change long ago.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @12:16PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @12:16PM (#864949)

      They will just move and adapt like has always happened. The only thing they have to fear is a sudden event, and even then they probably have multiple homes so a couple hours warning should be enough to avoid the worst outcome.

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 10 2019, @12:05AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 10 2019, @12:05AM (#865217)

      The rich and powerful will protect the value of their seaside property for as long as they can, and when it's really too much to keep it up anymore, they'll write themselves a bailout so they can retain the value and acquire something more desirable somewhere else.

      Tom Petty: It's good to be King, whatever it pays.

  • (Score: 2) by Entropy on Tuesday July 09 2019, @01:43PM (1 child)

    by Entropy (4228) on Tuesday July 09 2019, @01:43PM (#864976)

    News at 11..

    • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday July 09 2019, @02:04PM

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday July 09 2019, @02:04PM (#864980) Journal

      Yes, I check the 11:00 news regularly. When the sea reaches Texarkana, we can be pretty sure it will stop there. Luckily, I'm north of Texarkana, so safe from the flooding. But, I'll have to go some other direction to shop, so I check the news regularly.

  • (Score: 5, Informative) by bradley13 on Tuesday July 09 2019, @03:26PM (3 children)

    by bradley13 (3053) on Tuesday July 09 2019, @03:26PM (#865005) Homepage Journal

    Sea level rise. Sea level rise! Eleventy!!!

    When one finally gets to the guts of the document, here's the relevant bit: "A wide range of evidence indicates that the Cascadia Subduction Zone periodically generates great earthquakes of magnitude 8 to over 9 that cause sudden shifts...these greate earthquakes are accompanied by shoreline subsidence on the order of three feet of more." The document then goes on to point out that these quakes have been occurring every 300 to 500 years for millenia, and the last one was over 300 years ago. So...

    tl;dr: nothing to do with sea level rise, everything to do with California being an earthquake zone.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @05:32PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @05:32PM (#865064)

      where's the heresy mod?

      • (Score: 2) by Fluffeh on Tuesday July 09 2019, @10:09PM

        by Fluffeh (954) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday July 09 2019, @10:09PM (#865184) Journal

        where's the heresy mod?

        Right next to the "The Emperor Protects!" button?

    • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Thursday July 11 2019, @02:57PM

      by FatPhil (863) <pc-soylentNO@SPAMasdf.fi> on Thursday July 11 2019, @02:57PM (#865818) Homepage

      So the earthquakes that cause sudden downward shifts in the coastal regions haven't happened for 300 years.
      Therefore the change that's happened in the last 100 years is because of them?

      Wait, waaaaat?

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  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday July 09 2019, @03:52PM (2 children)

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday July 09 2019, @03:52PM (#865019) Journal

    By the end of this century, the surge could be greater than 9 feet.

    Where's the evidence again? This is yet another of those things that could happen, but won't happen. How much should we be spending to repel extraterrestrial alien invasion? It could happen too.

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @04:15PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @04:15PM (#865029)

      The invasion is already happening. We know what fuel they use, how the propulsion systems work, what they look like, etc.

  • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @04:34PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09 2019, @04:34PM (#865036)

    Sell it to Republicans with a markup. If global warming is "fake news", it's in theory prime real-estate.

  • (Score: 2) by Hartree on Tuesday July 09 2019, @08:34PM

    by Hartree (195) on Tuesday July 09 2019, @08:34PM (#865141)

    Sea level rise, or a massive earthquake. The effect is the same. Buy your beachfront property in Barstow now!

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