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posted by martyb on Saturday September 21 2019, @01:38AM   Printer-friendly
from the freeze-peach dept.

https://kdvr.com/2019/09/05/fort-collins-agrees-to-remove-topless-ban-from-public-code/

Colorado city officials have removed a topless ban from city law that inspired a Free the Nipple lawsuit.

The Coloradoan reported that Fort Collins City Council agreed Tuesday to remove language in the public nudity code that barred women and girls over age 10 from exposing their breasts in public.

City officials say the ban is expected to be removed Sept. 17.

Officials say a district court judge and a federal appeals court have ruled against the policy in the past two years.


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  • (Score: 2) by bzipitidoo on Saturday September 21 2019, @02:24AM (18 children)

    by bzipitidoo (4388) on Saturday September 21 2019, @02:24AM (#896701) Journal

    Waitaminute... did the previous statute allow girls 10 and under to go topless? All this news about exploitation of minors, child prostitution, and the like, and they allowed that??

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  • (Score: 4, Funny) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday September 21 2019, @02:31AM (1 child)

    by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Saturday September 21 2019, @02:31AM (#896703) Homepage Journal

    Apparently even idiocy has its limits. Just don't tell the idiots I said that or they'll double down.

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    • (Score: 1) by Ethanol-fueled on Saturday September 21 2019, @02:47AM

      by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Saturday September 21 2019, @02:47AM (#896706) Homepage

      Let them do it. It will blow their brains just as "Islam is right about women" will do. God be with you.

  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by captain normal on Saturday September 21 2019, @03:18AM (7 children)

    by captain normal (2205) on Saturday September 21 2019, @03:18AM (#896711)

    If you are turned o by pre-pubescent girls you you have a big problem and need to get professional help immediately.

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    • (Score: 5, Touché) by ilPapa on Saturday September 21 2019, @04:47AM (5 children)

      by ilPapa (2366) on Saturday September 21 2019, @04:47AM (#896723) Journal

      If you are turned o by pre-pubescent girls you you have a big problem and need to get professional help immediately.

      Or, you need to run for congress as a Republican.

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      • (Score: 1, Informative) by Captival on Saturday September 21 2019, @05:46AM (3 children)

        by Captival (6866) on Saturday September 21 2019, @05:46AM (#896731)

        Meanwhile back in reality, recently arrested Democrat major donor Ed Buck [washingtonpost.com] has personally killed more gay black men than the entire KKK combined. Luckily Epstein "killed himself" before he could spill the beans on how many times Bill Clinton visited Lolita Island. Between Epstein, Bill, Weinstein, Buck and Anthony Weiner, does Hillary know a single male that isn't a convicted pervert?

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 21 2019, @05:53AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 21 2019, @05:53AM (#896732)
        • (Score: 1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 21 2019, @06:42AM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 21 2019, @06:42AM (#896742)

          Luckily Epstein "killed himself" before he could spill the beans on how many times Bill Clinton visited Lolita Island.

          You know that Trump was closer to Epstein than Bill Clinton was, right? Trump's whole 'We need to investigate this immediately!' shtick was nothing but a distraction. I'd bet that Trump and Clinton are both rapists. They are wretched human beings, in any case.

          • (Score: 1, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Saturday September 21 2019, @02:42PM

            by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday September 21 2019, @02:42PM (#896812) Journal

            You'll need citations for that. How many times did Trump visit pedo island? How many times did Clinton visit? As far as I know, Trump never, but Clinton dozens of times. Seriously, though. Citations needed for your assertion to stand.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 21 2019, @02:39PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 21 2019, @02:39PM (#896811)

        Is Creepy Joe an R?

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Common Joe on Saturday September 21 2019, @03:03PM

      by Common Joe (33) <{common.joe.0101} {at} {gmail.com}> on Saturday September 21 2019, @03:03PM (#896817) Journal

      I'm not sure why you're rated so highly insightful. (Rated 4 at the time I read this.) I did not take grandparent's comment to mean that he's turned on by such stuff. He was highlighting the obvious absurdity of the laws and public reactions. And it is absurd. It's not legal for a woman to be topless, but it's legal for a girl to be topless despite the strong legal and public backlash that results every time a parent post nude photograph of their two month old in the bathtub. And you know what's most absurd? How warped our culture is to always be thinking of any kind of nudity -- especially nude children -- in sexual ways. Go watch the the 1978 version of Superman. I'm surprised that movie hasn't been banned. This idea alone should speak volumes about how awful our culture currently is.

      And while we're on the subject: seeking professional help for his kind of stuff will get you shunned and shamed. With all the data collection and data leaks that is occurring, it's almost a guarantee. Find help at your own risk. Once that news is public, it impacts you forever professionally and personally. Your life will never recover.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 21 2019, @04:22AM (7 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 21 2019, @04:22AM (#896720)

    For as long as I remember, this was not to uncommon in a lot of places, although 10 is pushing. You'd certainly see 5 or 5 year olds of both genders with no tops all the time when I was a kid in the 70s. Their chests look the same at that age. Ah well, simpler times, yada, yada. We rode with no seatbelts and the moms were smoking in the car too. Nobody thought twice about any of that stuff, now they do.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 21 2019, @06:26AM (6 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 21 2019, @06:26AM (#896735)

      I'm not from US culture. Would putting a young girl in a topless bathing suit constitute a sex crime, or is it just not culturally acceptable?

      • (Score: 3, Informative) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday September 21 2019, @11:14AM (1 child)

        by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Saturday September 21 2019, @11:14AM (#896779) Homepage Journal

        Until they start getting to boobs age, most folks and laws don't care. Culturally, most parents tend to start buying them boob-covering swimsuits as soon as they start buying them swimsuits but they don't get bent out of shape too badly if they randomly run around in their underwear until about ten or so.

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 21 2019, @12:53PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 21 2019, @12:53PM (#896791)

          Thanks!

      • (Score: 2) by Common Joe on Saturday September 21 2019, @03:07PM

        by Common Joe (33) <{common.joe.0101} {at} {gmail.com}> on Saturday September 21 2019, @03:07PM (#896820) Journal

        It may not be technically a crime, but the police can investigate and take your children away for a long time until things are sorted out in court. That can take many, many months. Also, once your name is smeared with even a hint of a sex scandal against kids, your life will be ruined.

        So, it's simply not culturally acceptable in the worst possible way.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 21 2019, @05:32PM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 21 2019, @05:32PM (#896854)

        I'm not from US culture. Would putting a young girl in a topless bathing suit constitute a sex crime, or is it just not culturally acceptable?

        Things have changed significantly over the years. When I was a child, no one cared if a child was topless.

        In the early 1990s I was visiting my brother and took photos of him, his wife and their two young (4 and 2 years old or so at the time).

        I didn't notice it (which says a lot about attitudes back then), but the younger one wasn't wearing his diaper. This is before cell phone cameras, so I took the roll of film to be developed and printed.

        When I got my prints, I was looking through them with my brother and his wife and we noticed that the younger one wasn't wearing pants. We laughed. "Look! isn't wearing pants! Ha Ha!" I still have the prints from that roll of film somewhere.

        These days, I would likely be arrested for that. It's stupidity. That's a good word for US culture. The way we do things in the US is as follows: If there's an issue, look at all the angles, consider all the alternatives, then pick the one with the worst outcomes.

        • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 21 2019, @06:32PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 21 2019, @06:32PM (#896869)

          that's because our "justice system" is predatory glorified slave catchers and most "Americans" are brain washed. bootlicking, wanna-be authoritarian, whores.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 21 2019, @07:03PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 21 2019, @07:03PM (#896885)

            Don't hold back, friend. Tell us how you really feel.