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posted by Fnord666 on Thursday September 26 2019, @07:27AM   Printer-friendly
from the ET-phone-home dept.

https://www.sciencealert.com/our-new-interstellar-visitor-is-now-official-and-it-has-a-name

The verdict is in: after a thorough round of observations, the comet suspected of being an interstellar alien has been ratified. According to the International Astronomical Union (IAU), the comet is "unambiguously" interstellar in origin, and it has now been given a name: 2I/Borisov.

Previously, the comet had been going by the provisional name C/2019 Q4 (Borisov). C means it's a comet with a hyperbolic orbit, followed by the year it was discovered, an alphanumeric code for when in the year it was discovered, and the comet name in parentheses - that's Crimean amateur astronomer Gennadiy Borisov, who spotted the comet with telescope he made himself.

The new name has been simplified. In 2I, I stands for "interstellar", and 2 for being the second interstellar object ever discovered, after 'Oumuamua, which was detected in October 2017.

Previously: Possible Second Interstellar Object Discovered


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  • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Thursday September 26 2019, @09:34AM (5 children)

    by FatPhil (863) <pc-soylentNO@SPAMasdf.fi> on Thursday September 26 2019, @09:34AM (#899034) Homepage
    If they'd have said "almost certainly", I'd have had no beef. But "unambiguously" is an absolute. Scientists being absolute is *always* a warning sign. (Nope, that was metascience, that wasn't actually the joke you thought it was!)

    Did the object come from the direction of the outer Opik-Oort[*] Cloud? Well, considering it's a s sphere - that would be a yes.
    Did Gran Telescopio Canarias in the Canary Islands obtained a spectrum of 2I/Borisov and has find it to resemble those of typical cometary nuclei? Strange you should ask that, because it unambiguously did.

    So it looks like something from the Opik-Oort Cloud, and it came from the direction of the outer Opik-Oort Cloud.

    If it had crashed into Mars, then it would have completely satisfied one of the timelines of Objects in the Opik-Oort Cloud - they smash into sol or a planet, or they get scattered into space. By missing Mars, it's satisfied the second of those options - it's being scattered after a Solar/Martian flyby. All it needed was some kind of perturbation from a regular (elliptical) cometary orbit tens of thousands of years ago, last time it was near apehelion - you know, your typical gravitational slingshot for changing orbits. It's still following one of the many solar-system-object scripts, albeit a very rare one. What was that, you say this is a very rare occurrance?

    Can the IAU put their hands on their hearts and say unequivocally that such an encounter is absolutely impossible?

    [* Fuck Oort, he got there decades after the Estonian, I'm almost tempted to drop his name entirely, and just call it the Opik[**] cloud!]
    [** And fuck Estonia if they demand I put diacriticals on letters - ASCII forever! (But I forgive them for mispronouncing my name, 'Ph' is a retarded digraph, 'F' makes way more sense.)]
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  • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 26 2019, @10:31AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 26 2019, @10:31AM (#899041)

    [*** Also, fuck Gennadiy, this is obviously named after Borisov Johnson]

  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 26 2019, @06:02PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 26 2019, @06:02PM (#899235)

    The orbit is unambiguously hyperbolic. Comets from the Oort cloud have an eccentricity of nearly 1. These are nearly parabolic, as would be expected for objects that are almost, but not quite, coming from outside the Sun's sphere of influence. A few have eccentricities slightly over 1. Depending on what happens to them on the way back out, some of those will leave the Solar system.

    Borisov isn't like that. It has an eccentricity of 3.5. It's not anywhere close to an Oort cloud object. Nor is there any form of gravitational perturbation that could have created such an orbit. It simply has far too much energy to have received it from gravity. Its "orbit" is actually not extremely different from the Voyager spacecraft, which took powerful rockets and multiple gravity assists from giant planets to reach their velocities.

    It's just not from the Oort cloud. So the fact that it has chemistry that resembles local comets tells us that the comets of other stars aren't necessarily that different from ours. But hopefully they'll spot some interesting differences too.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 26 2019, @06:21PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 26 2019, @06:21PM (#899249)

      Closest approach in December at around 1.9 AU.

    • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Friday September 27 2019, @10:58AM

      by FatPhil (863) <pc-soylentNO@SPAMasdf.fi> on Friday September 27 2019, @10:58AM (#899511) Homepage
      Your point about the eccentricity does nothing to counter this statement:
      It has an eccentricity of 3.5 because that's how it's being ejected from the solar system.

      Reread my post, this time for comprehension. Avoid the footnotes, they clearly confused you last time.
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  • (Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Thursday September 26 2019, @10:11PM

    by PartTimeZombie (4827) on Thursday September 26 2019, @10:11PM (#899323)

    Goodness! I never knew there was that much passion amongst the astrology astronomy crowd.

    Apart from that whole Pluto thing a few years ago, of course.