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More (and ongoing) developments on the Whistleblower/Ukraine thing:
House Speaker Pelosi has begun an inquiry into impeachment of the president:
https://www.npr.org/2019/09/24/763700264/trumps-ukraine-call-may-be-game-changer-on-impeachment
The (live at the time of this submission: 2019-09-26 14:30 UTC) House Intelligence interview of the Acting Director of National Security:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-us-canada-49841920
The unclassified-version of the whistleblower complaint was released:
https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/20190812_-_whistleblower_complaint_unclass.pdf
As was the memo/pseudo-transcript (not 100% guaranteed as they are hand-typed, no recordings of calls are made any more in the US in the aftermath of Watergate) on the call between Presidents Trump and Zelenskyy[*]:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Unclassified09.2019.pdf
[*] Yes, Zelenskyy, see: Zelensky, Zelenskiy, Zelenskyy: spelling confusion doesn't help Ukraine.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 28 2019, @03:19PM (3 children)
Incorrect, you apparently don't understand how grassroots campaigns work. SN is actually a massive target specifically because of its smaller userbase and "street cred" of being a community by techies for techies. Being smaller makes it easier to turn into an echo chamber. But hey, you're one of the ones spewing garbage so like Trump you're either a hidden agent or useful idiot. Don't feel bad, about 1/4 of the US are being used as useful idiots but hey you have us liberals trying to make things better for ourselves AND you.
Don't mistake straightforward telling it like it is for hatred. Republicans have been abused by massive propaganda campaigns affecting our friends and family. I see Republicans being stand up citizens, helping their communities and being responsible adults. So you will be forgiven for your blunders once you can see how you are being abused by your "leaders."
(Score: 2) by hemocyanin on Saturday September 28 2019, @03:42PM (2 children)
You mistake me for a Republican. And if you think average people care what their local geek posts on a niche-of-niches type website (*), you've bought the into the HRC-fans' sour grapes too much.
(*) It's been my experience that most people are only interested in the geek perspective when and to the extent that, they need something to work or want some magic performed, and once done, they don't care. We are tools and nothing more. It has taken me decades to understand that when I do something neat or make something work or build something that makes a job incredibly more efficient, I'm not socializing. It feels like it to me but to the vast bulk of people it means nothing at all, even if it actually makes their life or work better.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 28 2019, @11:54PM (1 child)
Ok you're a geek. You know what Shodan is? Soylent is on the equivalents of Shodan for forums. There are over 100 posters, and live updates (user posts) > 100 day, making it a small population but a /very/ active forum, as they go. So nationsize actors DO catch soylent in their shotgun propaganda, and DO have automated tools to make it all easier. I suggest you go check out the tool suites used by comment farms in China in particular. It's no longer textfiles being copy-pasted with human manual intervention like in 2011 (https://www.technologyreview.com/s/426174/undercover-researchers-expose-chinese-internet-water-army/#.TswIPuLKgw0.twitter) but rather more like running an automated test suite harness with prompting and places to manually override/insert. It's amazingly efficient.
So it's not that nobody is interested - apart from a few high profile individuals we're pretty low on the radar - it's that we're bycatch. And you're wrong to think that bycatch will make it through unscathed!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 29 2019, @01:46PM
These posters are all over zerohedge. Typically they are anti-Trump though.