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posted by Fnord666 on Thursday October 10 2019, @04:11AM   Printer-friendly
from the Money-for-nothing,-chicks-for-free dept.

I'm a driver for Uber and Lyft — here's exactly how much I make in one week on the job

The final tally was about $257 for less than 14 hours of work — or about $19 an hour.

Read on for a detailed breakdown of how much I made driving for Uber and Lyft, including some of the most unusual passengers and some mishaps I had along the way....

I put 291.1 miles on my Prius, using about 5.75 gallons of gas, which is about $13.22 in gas expenses for my area...

I had to then find who was open on a Sunday to replace the flat tire. While I was on the phone calling places, I figured I might as well get four new tires altogether, and an oil change too, since my car was almost due for those. Safety first... It was $430.22 to fix my car.

One estimate of the Prius TCO for 5 years / 75,000 miles is $34,067 - or $0.454 per mile, beating the IRS mileage rate of $0.58. This guy doesn't come off as one who does his own work or otherwise keeps that TCO down...

Interesting that he even neglected his gas money in his hourly "income" quotation, factoring in $0.50/mile TCO instead. His net income is around $112 for a self (likely under) estimated 14 hours of work (isn't calling around town on a Sunday to get your car fixed also work?), or $8 per hour. I suppose it's good for the self-esteem if you don't think of yourself putting your life at risk for less than minimum wage.

Anyone here eager to get out and live that gig economy lifestyle?


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  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday October 14 2019, @01:53PM (4 children)

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday October 14 2019, @01:53PM (#906919) Journal

    To treat their employees like human beings

    They are. Companies like Walmart are in fact going above and beyond that by helping their lower income employees find these programs to supplement their employee's income.

    First off, I didn't decide jack shit, I was born into a world with welfare babies.

    Then why not just end these troublesome programs? No welfare, unemployment insurance, etc, then no subsidies for Walmart. You're just not owning up to the decisions you made.

    Perpetual dependency on the nanny state, taxing the productive to house and feed the poor? Keeping a large poor population around in unhappy conditions, much more likely to strike out in crime and violence. Yeah, that's a bad thing.

    I call your bluff. End them, if they're so much trouble. Corporations didn't create these programs.

    Corporations profiting from the situation while doing nothing to end it. Profits are fine, perpetuating poverty isn't. Figure out how to pay the workers, or fold up shop and make room for someone who will. Killing corporations isn't murder.

    Why? Once again, it's not their job. If anyone has that job, it's the employees. We certainly don't have to kill off employers and make the situation worse.

  • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Monday October 14 2019, @04:20PM (3 children)

    by JoeMerchant (3937) on Monday October 14 2019, @04:20PM (#906996)

    going above and beyond that by helping their lower income employees find these programs to supplement their employee's income.

    And, that's great for a temporary situation. If the non-working poor can't draw unemployment for more than a limited time, the working poor should also be getting out of their welfare dependencies in a similar timeframe, not left to rot on the bottom of the pyramid.

    why not just end these troublesome programs? No welfare, unemployment insurance, etc, then no subsidies for Walmart. You're just not owning up to the decisions you made.

    No, the decision I made is for UBI, which could/should empower the working poor to give wage slave shops like WalMart the big middle finger if they don't like their working conditions. UBI doesn't run out, doesn't make the recipients run around doing bureaucratic BS to get what they need to live. This crap pile of public assistance programs we have in the US today are nothing like the decisions I made.

    I call your bluff. End them, if they're so much trouble. Corporations didn't create these programs.

    I call yours: $0.0228 per minute UBI, delivered electronically to every U.S. citizen. Start taxing income and capital gains of anything over $12K per year above that UBI at a flat percentage rate all the way up - at whatever percentage rate is needed to keep total revenue the same as it is today. No more foodstamps, no more welfare, no more minimum wage, and UBI for children past the first one in each household cuts by half for each additional child. Crappy jobs would go away, because nobody needs them. If the services those crappy job employees provided were really worth something, they'll have to find a way to make the jobs less crappy - which doesn't always mean more money.

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    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday October 14 2019, @05:18PM (2 children)

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday October 14 2019, @05:18PM (#907040) Journal

      And, that's great for a temporary situation. If the non-working poor can't draw unemployment for more than a limited time, the working poor should also be getting out of their welfare dependencies in a similar timeframe, not left to rot on the bottom of the pyramid.

      Good thing that Walmart is improving their situation then, isn't it? Your pathology in this matter is interesting to watch.

      No, the decision I made is for UBI, which could/should empower the working poor to give wage slave shops like WalMart the big middle finger if they don't like their working conditions. UBI doesn't run out, doesn't make the recipients run around doing bureaucratic BS to get what they need to live. This crap pile of public assistance programs we have in the US today are nothing like the decisions I made.

      Or work for the slave shops, if they do like their working conditions and want more spending money.

      I call yours: $0.0228 per minute UBI, delivered electronically to every U.S. citizen.

      So $12k per year for a total of roughly $4 trillion per year. Even if we end all present day federal spending except for interest payments, we're only $3 trillion of the way there. Where's the money coming from? And how do you deal with the dual problems of people voting for more UBI and avoiding work like you want them to?

      • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Monday October 14 2019, @06:40PM

        by JoeMerchant (3937) on Monday October 14 2019, @06:40PM (#907083)

        So $12k per year for a total of roughly $4 trillion per year. Even if we end all present day federal spending except for interest payments, we're only $3 trillion of the way there. Where's the money coming from?

        So, without looking anything up I'm at least in the ballpark...

        Social Security - replaced. Unemployment, SNAP, etc. - replaced.

        Obviously, doing this overnight would be unhealthy, it would need to be progressively implemented (which is even more problematic on the political side.) Employers could pay the UBI for their employees as a different sort of "minimum wage" - but, the difference is: the employee has the option to walk and not lose anything. Jobs that people actually want to work at, imagine that.

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      • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Monday October 14 2019, @07:48PM

        by JoeMerchant (3937) on Monday October 14 2019, @07:48PM (#907105)

        roughly $4 trillion per year. Even if we end all present day federal spending except for interest payments, we're only $3 trillion of the way there. Where's the money coming from?

        130 million FTE in the US -> 1.56T

        27 million Part Timers averaging 34 hours per week, 34/40 * 12000 = 10200 per head -> 275B

        Social Security -> 980B

        SNAP -> 70B

        Unemployment -> 100B

        60 million US citizens under age 14, count them at 1/2 UBI rate on average -> 360B

        There's 3.3T of your 4T. Maybe UBI isn't $12K/yr, maybe it's $10K/yr at today's tax rates. That's $10K/yr per capita of security - no excuses for homelessness, starvation, and no worry "if I don't keep this crappy job my kids are going to have to sleep in a bus shelter."

        My wife's parents lived for 20 years on less than $20K/yr fixed income, and they managed to keep $18K in savings while doing it - it wasn't luxurious, but it was what they wanted to do, in Florida, with a truck they drove, a sailboat when they could manage it, a vacation to Iceland...

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