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posted by janrinok on Monday August 18 2014, @07:31AM   Printer-friendly
from the cutting-one's-own-throat dept.

During this recession, I like many people working in technology, had a very difficult time finding work, but finally got back on my feet (though in a contract-only position with no benefits).

Now I am working in an American multinational here in the United States, and I find that every last person working for me is an H1B temp work visa holder. There are zero Americans on my staff. In addition to that, we recently had to fill 3 more headcount in my group. My boss instructed me that due to 'budget' that we were to go to our India sourcing department and they would arrange for contractors to be sent in from offshore (India). It would take about 1 month for their visas to be arranged and for them to be on site (in Raleigh North Carolina). Though our Applicant tracking system is overflowing with applications by Americans (including probably some of my own old ones), we didn't even look at those before bringing in the H1Bs. The corporate law firm arranges this, gives the 'no Americans can be found' stamp of approval and the temps are flown in with expedited Visas (H1B or other temp type visas that they use until the H1B is approved). I mentioned this to a couple of my coworkers, and I was discretely told to be quiet about it if I knew what was good for me and didn't want to 'expire' myself.

At the same time, while I was on a business trip, I found that several others in lower / mid management Americans in the firm, mostly in their 50s all have recent college grad kids living at home with them, unable to find any work or just working at the mall with their university degrees in solid subjects. It dawned on me then, that actually we had no American recent grads in the entire company. That virtually all the lower 2 to 3 rungs of company positions (programmers, BAs, SMEs..etc) were H1Bs (again, almost exclusively from India).

Basically the modus operandi is to first hire in India (we have a big India offshoring center), if that is not possible, bring someone from India to the United States, and if that is not possible either, then finally look at the Applicant Database and see if we can find an American for the role as a last resort. As a result, most junior roles (that are the easiest to fill), go to H1B and other temp visa holders. American new grads or unemployed won't even get interviews.

Talking to others in the area at the local linux group, it turns out virtually every other tech company in the area is doing this, and not only here either. Boston, Herndon Virginia tech corridor, the suburban silicon valley, it is the same story everywhere from coast to coast.

This is essentially visa fraud on a massive scale, probably criminal and basically theft from Americans who are legally supposed to get those jobs first. Right now, we don't even read the US applicant database when hiring in the US for most roles. Other firms here don't either from what others working in them tell me.

If you are working in a large corporate tech environment in the United States, you probably know exactly what I am talking about (reply and say 'yep' if you do). There are probably even some sitting within a couple cubes from you while there are fewer and fewer Americans working as they get 'replaced' around you.

I concluded that if this was not happening, the recession in the middle class would have been over years ago, and we would now be in a very healthy broad based recovery affecting everyone with increasing wages and improving benefits as the unemployed found good jobs with benefits, shortages would lead to new grads getting work, buying homes and filling them with furniture rather than living with their parents in their childhood bedrooms..etc.

What is the solution? A typical union is not the solution (I don't want one anyways, they often bring different kinds of problems). Writing to congress won't help (since corruption of congress by tech corp lobby corporate donations is what brought this about in the first place). Staging an annual 'Day of Action' protesting in front of tech company clients (i.e. if they use Oracle, in front of their clients retail stores) with your Guy Fawkes mask. Other industrial action like is common in European countries? A broad employee based (but somehow secret so we don't get laid off for being 'low performers' when it is discovered we are in it?) political pressure group? Anonymous? College grad groups (since they are the ones most affected by this)?

I'd like to hear the ideas and thoughts of the people on this forum of what to do, what action can be taken to reverse this. It is criminal what is happening in this country in this regard and I don't think we should stand for it.

Ed

 
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  • (Score: 2) by MrGuy on Monday August 18 2014, @03:32PM

    by MrGuy (1007) on Monday August 18 2014, @03:32PM (#82637)

    I suppose you can argue the specifics of the terms, but I believe this is basically stating Computer Science and Software Engineering are not the same thing.

    Computer Science (my definition) is a theoretical science - a branch of abstract mathematics and is an area of high-end academic research primarily concerned with algorithms.
    Software Engineering (my definition again) is an applied science - taking the learnings from Computer Science and applying them to write practical working software applications to solve real world problems.

    My "code is code" comment is specifically within the domain of Software Engineering - I couldn't care less where an application was written, or what the specific skills of the programmer writing it were. If it does a useful thing, it's useful. If it doesn't, it's not. (By the way, I'm including "is it secure?" "does it scale?" etc. in "does it do a useful thing?" I couldn't care less if an app with good security was written by a security expert or a novice that got lucky - if it's secure, that's all that matters). It is the tale, not he who tells it.

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