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posted by martyb on Friday January 24 2020, @04:27PM   Printer-friendly
from the Better-ask-Betteridge? dept.

Capitalism is in trouble – at least judging by recent polls.

A majority of American millennials reject the economic system, while 55% of women age 18 to 54 say they prefer socialism. More Democrats now have a positive view of socialism than capitalism. And globally, 56% of respondents to a new survey agree "capitalism as it exists today does more harm than good in the world."

One problem interpreting numbers like these is that there are many definitions of capitalism and socialism. More to the point, people seem to be thinking of a specific form of capitalism that deems the sole purpose of companies is to increase stock prices and enrich investors. Known as shareholder capitalism, it's been the guiding light of American business for more than four decades. That's what the survey meant by "as it exists today."

As a scholar of socially responsible companies, however, I cannot help but notice a shift in corporate behavior in recent years. A new kind of capitalism seems to be emerging, one in which companies value communities, the environment and workers just as much as profits.

The latest evidence: Companies as diverse as alcohol maker AB InBev, airline JetBlue and money manager BlackRock have all in recent weeks made new commitments to pursue more sustainable business practices.

[...] A 2017 study showed that many companies with climate change goals actually scaled back their ambitions over time as the reality clashed with their lofty goals.

But businesses can't afford to ignore their customers' wishes. Nor can they ignore their workers in a tight labor market. And if they disregard socially responsible investors, they risk both losing out on important investments and facing shareholder resolutions that force change.

The shareholder value doctrine is not dead, but we are beginning to see major cracks in its armor. And as long as investors, customers and employees continue to push for more responsible behavior, you should expect to see those cracks grow.

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  • (Score: 2) by sjames on Sunday January 26 2020, @09:24PM (6 children)

    by sjames (2882) on Sunday January 26 2020, @09:24PM (#949010) Journal

    That's why I chose the word approximate rather than equal. These days, many products and services reveal no relationship at all between price and the marginal cost of production. The worst examples are found in the area of healthcare.

    Consumer electronics and appliances are another example. Often the lower priced models in a range are exactly the same as the high end model internally, they just vandalize it by cutting a few traces to make it lower end. That is, it actually costs a little more to manufacture than the high end one did. In other cases, the hardware is identical and the vandalism is in the firmware. Manufacturers actively hunt and threaten sites that tell you which cut traces to bridge together and how to flash the higher end firmware on the device.

    If we had an actual competitive market, they'd be forced to leave the features turned on and sell at the lower price to match the competition's offering. Of course, many such products are actually identical no-name products with different higher end emblems stuck on it at a substantial mark-up.

    Note, this is distinct from the common case in server motherboards where you may see solder pads where they didn't place a controller. In that case, the lower end board was at least the cost of that chip cheaper to manufacture. Fair enough, but there are plenty more cheats there, like offering a "hardware" feature that is actually emulated (poorly) using SMM (or now, the Management Engine) to intercept access.Commonly, cheaper "RAID controllers" and just a regular SATA controller with the ID bumped one and a Windows driver that implements soft RAID.

    As a rule of thumb, if you hear the term "value pricing", the speaker has thrown Smith out the window and is practicing Mercantilism.

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  • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Sunday January 26 2020, @10:05PM (5 children)

    by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Sunday January 26 2020, @10:05PM (#949022) Homepage Journal

    Which is all fine and good, really. So long as there is a competitive market rather than one that's had the throat of competition artificially stomped on by the government anyway. Or where the government has refused to smack down anti-competitive business practices by those with monopolistic powers. We currently have neither but I'd prefer we fix the root cause to address the problem rather than breeding an entirely new species of problem through idiotic bandaid regulations.

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    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by sjames on Monday January 27 2020, @05:22AM

      by sjames (2882) on Monday January 27 2020, @05:22AM (#949201) Journal

      I suspect no matter the ideology, anyone suggesting anything that might get to the root of the problem will be branded a socialist by the current crop of fanatics, even if it's a quote right out of "The Wealth of Nations".

      Getting at the root of it will likely involve nullifying a lot of corporate charters. Somehow, the current "Capitalists" don't see government granted charters as government interference, but what else could it be called?

      I am not convinced that corporate charters are compatible with a functioning market. The market simply doesn't work that well when there is such a disparity of economic power between buyer and seller. The problem is that some things these days can really only be accomplished at scale. There's no such thing as a desktop chip fab, nor is there a briefcase MRI.

    • (Score: 2) by sjames on Monday January 27 2020, @05:29AM (3 children)

      by sjames (2882) on Monday January 27 2020, @05:29AM (#949203) Journal

      Please forgive the double reply.

      The other aspect is that we have several generations growing up with the current state of affairs being claimed to be some sort of paragon of Capitalism. Given that the results of what they have been taught is Capitalism are so dismal for so many, is it any wonder they start thinking they'd like to try something else? If the champions of Capitalism don't do less cheerleading and more fixing, it will get tossed out.

      Simply stripping away the current band-aids will not get to the root of the problem. It will make it even worse for even more people and it will hasten the exit of Capitalism. First fix the roots, then remove the band-aids once the obvoius wounds have actually healed.

      • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday January 27 2020, @04:06PM (2 children)

        by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Monday January 27 2020, @04:06PM (#949371) Homepage Journal

        No worries. Everyone hits Submit right before they think of something really relevant they forgot to say once in a while.

        First fix the roots, then remove the band-aids once the obvoius wounds have actually healed.

        Nah, you can do it all at once. You just have to plan it out carefully before you do. And it's not corporations' existence or even their size that's the problem, it's the size of the market share they're allowed to attain without the government saying "Oh hell no!". Well, that and government granted monopolies like patents and copyright being all kinds of in need of a good enema.

        Lots of folks here think they'd be miserable and destitute under an economic system run by my ideals but they don't get how truly and vehemently I hold my anti-trust views. I'd make life pretty fucking miserable for anyone with over a 20% market share; globally, nationally, regionally, or locally. And mergers when there are less than half a dozen competitors in a sector would be right the fuck out. A hell of a lot of things they used to call "synergy" would be gone as well, like Disney owning the means of production, the product, and the means of distribution.

        Capitalism really does work better than anything but you can't play favorites and you can't allow abuse of monopoly powers. If the government isn't doing everything necessary to foster competition, it's not capitalism that they're after.

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        • (Score: 2) by sjames on Tuesday January 28 2020, @08:01PM (1 child)

          by sjames (2882) on Tuesday January 28 2020, @08:01PM (#950203) Journal

          I really doubt it can be done all at once. You would have enough enforcement actions stacked up that it would take years to iron out. The laws would need several amendments to work around the work-arounds bad actors would implement before enforcement could catch up. Meanwhile that misery and destitution would run rampant with the band-aids ripped off before the wounds are healed. I would be amazed if no corporation chose to press forward full steam under their temporary freedom from restraint with plans to spirit away the profits before the music stops.

          Meanwhile, I believe you would find 20% to be an unreliable threshold. That would yield 5 competitors each vastly more powerful than their customers. Each big enough to disconnect directive from action, which is the formula for creating a virtual psychopath. More to the point, few enough to manage a tacit agreement among them.

          You would definitely have to address the incestuous relationships between various boards of directors and executive suites. It tends to create a lot of unofficial back channels for that tacit agreement.

          But keep in mind, Smith didn't likely warn against the granting of charters for his own amusement. He saw it as playing with fire, a sort of Faustian bargain, The history of economies that ignored his advice seem to bear that out. Be sure you're noty missing the root of the problem.

          • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday January 29 2020, @12:40AM

            by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Wednesday January 29 2020, @12:40AM (#950350) Homepage Journal

            You would have enough enforcement actions stacked up that it would take years to iron out.

            Not all currently warranted enforcement actions would need to even be taken. A few good high-profile ones get their nuts thoroughly stomped on in public and enforcement necessity will decline drastically.

            The laws would need several amendments to work around the work-arounds bad actors would implement before enforcement could catch up.

            This is why coders should write laws instead of lobbyists for the groups that the laws are supposed to regulate. Specifically, paranoid coders who have a hardon for security. Bonus points if you run each past a team of Bytrams several times for QA before finalizing them.

            You would definitely have to address the incestuous relationships between various boards of directors and executive suites. It tends to create a lot of unofficial back channels for that tacit agreement

            That ain't no shit. Not even a little bit.

            By the way, 20% was an off the cuff number. I'd ask for further discussion to see what sounds best but I don't see anyone voting me Emperor of North America any time soon. Which is probably just as well. I'd be pissed off all the time and it would cut into my fishing.

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