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posted by Fnord666 on Thursday March 05 2020, @11:27PM   Printer-friendly
from the Memory-Garbage-Collection dept.

It is time for a quiz slightly biased toward older, larger systems giving old farts an unfair advantage.
Remember: googling the answers is cheating but we have no way of enforcing it. But it is less fun.

1. What is the advantage of unidirectional printing on a dot-matrix printer?
2. What is the distance between the black marks on a thick yellow ethernet cable (10BASE5)?
3. Which CPU did the SuperMAX from DDE have? (trick question)
4. How do you exit from a DOS program (interrupt number + subfunction)
5. Which interactive game from 1986 had the settings tame..lewd, and a scratch'n'sniff card was in the box?
6. Why is a memory dump called a "core" dump?
7. Which CPU did the Siemens PC-D have?
8. Which new features were in the file system in DOS 2.x when compared to DOS 1.x ?
9. What is the visual administration tool in AIX called?
10. Name the file server in the Amoeba OS.
11. What is the biggest difference between C64 joysticks and PC-joysticks (we are talking about the original ones that had to connect to a game port)?
12. What is the maximum line length in COBOL? (trick question)
13. Where is the main office of the Sirius Cybernetics Complaints Department located?
14. "eioio" instruction on Power. What does it do?
15. Before Borland introduced their TurboVision, which toolkit was widespread for implementing windows/ISAM-files in Turbo Pascal?
16. Why is the Unix function for creating a file called "creat" and not "create"?
17. When was SMP supported by Windows? And OS/2?
18. Which number did the Fidonet nets have in your country? (bonus point if you remember your matrix address)
19. How do you mark a block in Wordstar?
20. Which came first: Amiga, Norton Commander, or HP Laserjet?

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 05 2020, @11:34PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 05 2020, @11:34PM (#967147)

    thanks for the memories

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 05 2020, @11:34PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 05 2020, @11:34PM (#967148)

    As you leave, you hear behind you a sound like a forty-five degree
    angle landing on a pile of forty-five degree angles. "Oh shit! Not
    again!" you hear Mitre moan.

  • (Score: 2) by AndyTheAbsurd on Thursday March 05 2020, @11:43PM (4 children)

    by AndyTheAbsurd (3958) on Thursday March 05 2020, @11:43PM (#967152) Journal

    I guess I'm not an old fart, as I only know one answer without Googling, and I only know it because I worked for a bank from 2003 to 2014. (It's number 12, the COBOL question. And I know why it's a trick question...but I ain't telling.)

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    • (Score: 2) by fadrian on Friday March 06 2020, @12:00AM (1 child)

      by fadrian (3194) on Friday March 06 2020, @12:00AM (#967165) Homepage

      Well, I must be an even older fart, because I know number 6 (either that or a pervert because I know the answer to number 5). All of the rest of these seem to assume you worked with PCs rather than "real computers" during the mid-to-late eighties. Sadly, I also know the answer to number 16.

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      • (Score: 2, Touché) by Ethanol-fueled on Friday March 06 2020, @12:37AM

        by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Friday March 06 2020, @12:37AM (#967178) Homepage

        Yep, number 6 is the only one I got for sure. And if 5 isn't Leisure Suit Larry then I guess I'm a one-answer pony.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 06 2020, @03:14AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 06 2020, @03:14AM (#967254)

      Ditto. When I read old fart I though I might qualify, but for these I am not fossil enough. I would score just _one_ for :) COBOL :) ... I also know it!

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 06 2020, @05:24PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 06 2020, @05:24PM (#967536)

      I can't answer all the Windows/DOS based ones because I'm too old a fart that I was only working with mainframes during those time periods.

      And some of the questions I should know the answer to, but because I'm an old fart I just can't remember them any more.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 05 2020, @11:46PM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 05 2020, @11:46PM (#967155)

    Had something to do with clothing and

    a fella named Leonard, as I recall.
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 06 2020, @02:11AM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 06 2020, @02:11AM (#967220)

      And I should have said

      Lawrence, not Leonard

      A brain fart for an old fart. There's a certain symmetry there. :(

      • (Score: 2) by Magic Oddball on Friday March 06 2020, @05:44AM (1 child)

        by Magic Oddball (3847) on Friday March 06 2020, @05:44AM (#967299) Journal

        Nope, number five features (depending on which sex you play as) Trent or Tiffany.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 06 2020, @06:35AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 06 2020, @06:35AM (#967316)

          Apparently so. In fact, I'd never even heard of the correct answer until it appeared in the comments here.

          That's not surprising for a couple of reasons. In 1986, I was either working to pay rent or living on the street and didn't have regular access to a computer. Also, I likely wouldn't have bothered as I was never really that big into computer games. I'm still not, in fact.

          So, when "lewd" and "scratch-n-sniff" was mentioned, I just assumed it was

          Leisure Suit Larry

          and not the correct answer.

  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 05 2020, @11:51PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 05 2020, @11:51PM (#967156)

    If you turn on bi-directional printing
      alternate lines look
    like this.
      and then this....

    • (Score: 2) by Oakenshield on Friday March 06 2020, @05:55AM (1 child)

      by Oakenshield (4900) on Friday March 06 2020, @05:55AM (#967305)

      Back in the day I can remember turning on NLQ mode (major misnomer) when my worn out printhead resembled nine overlapping wires and the results still looked like shit. I had a professor that wouldn't accept dot matrix papers from students for that reason. Luckily, I had access to a daisywheel at work at the time. Laser printers were only for the 1%ers at the time.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 06 2020, @06:31AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 06 2020, @06:31AM (#967314)

        Good God, I can still hear the rapid fire banging of the daisy wheel in our office. When I close my eyes during action movies when an actor is using a machine gun, I often see it in my head.

  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 05 2020, @11:56PM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 05 2020, @11:56PM (#967161)
    For years fast memory (used like RAM today) was made of tiny ferrite cores (donuts) strung on even tinier wires by tiny fingers. Core memory came in planes, takyon would love it, they were stacked in 3D!
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 06 2020, @01:33AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 06 2020, @01:33AM (#967200)

      and traveled to the moon!

    • (Score: 2) by mhajicek on Friday March 06 2020, @06:22AM

      by mhajicek (51) on Friday March 06 2020, @06:22AM (#967310)

      It was also called "lol memory". Little old ladies made it.

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    • (Score: 2) by istartedi on Friday March 06 2020, @04:52PM (1 child)

      by istartedi (123) on Friday March 06 2020, @04:52PM (#967514) Journal

      This was one of the few I knew, and it was actually way before my time. Many of the others were contemporary to me, but involved things I didn't use, so I think it's more of a *how widely exposed were you* as an old fart test.

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      • (Score: 2) by kazzie on Saturday March 07 2020, @06:48AM

        by kazzie (5309) Subscriber Badge on Saturday March 07 2020, @06:48AM (#967825)

        a "widely exposed fart" sounds, er, smelly.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 05 2020, @11:57PM (8 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 05 2020, @11:57PM (#967163)

    Number Six:
    Was the character played by Patrick McGoohan in The Prisoner [wikipedia.org].

    Because memory back then was "core" memory, and "dumping core" meant copying the contents of that memory to a file if the running program aborted

    Number Nine:
    Paul is dead.

    smitty in a terminal window and smit in an x-window

    Number twelve:

    Nope. Not yet.
    IIRC, there is no maximum line length. There were, at least with punched cards maximum printable lengths, which is why continuation marks were necessary

    Number 17:
    Keith Hernandez [wikipedia.org], of course!

    With Windows NT v3.1 and OS/2 Warp v3.

    kthxbye

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 06 2020, @12:07AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 06 2020, @12:07AM (#967168)

      #9
      In graphical mode, describe what the "man" does in smit.

      • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 06 2020, @06:41AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 06 2020, @06:41AM (#967319)

        #9
        In graphical mode, describe what

        the "man" does in smit

        .

        As I recall, he

        runs

        .

        Which was stupid even back then.

        smitty, I always preferred smitty to smit

        was a useful tool, especially if you were in a hurry or were learning AIX, since it would show you the command lines it generated from the menu choices.

    • (Score: 2) by Hartree on Friday March 06 2020, @12:24AM (2 children)

      by Hartree (195) on Friday March 06 2020, @12:24AM (#967174)

      "Keith Hernandez"

      Who's on first.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 06 2020, @02:31AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 06 2020, @02:31AM (#967233)

        KEITH HERNANDEZ!? I despise him.

        I'll tell you why... June 14, 1987.... Mets Phillies. We're enjoying a beautiful afternoon in the right field stands when a crucial Hernandez error to a five run Phillies ninth. Cost the Mets the game.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 06 2020, @07:14AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 06 2020, @07:14AM (#967328)

          KEITH HERNANDEZ!? I despise him.

          I'll tell you why... June 14, 1987.... Mets Phillies. We're enjoying a beautiful afternoon in the right field stands when a crucial Hernandez error to a five run Phillies ninth. Cost the Mets the game.

          Well, you certainly didn't see that on June 14, 1987. The Mets beat the Pittsburgh Pirates 7-3 in Pittsburgh on that day [baseball-almanac.com].

          The game you're likely (if you're not just completely full of shit) referring to is the June 28, 1987 [baseball-almanac.com] game at the Vet in Philly, where Ronnie took a no hitter (4-0 lead) into the 8th inning, and the Mets gave up 3 runs in the 8th and 2 in the 9th. Your memory must be failing you, as no errors were recorded by *either* team that day.

          According to Wikipedia [wikipedia.org]:

          The Mets' Ron Darling took a no-hitter and 4–0 lead into the eighth inning against the Phillies on June 28 at the Vet before 52,206 fans. Philadelphia's Greg Gross pinch-hit and tripled to lead off the eighth inning, breaking up the no-hitter. Juan Samuel then singled to break up the shutout, and the Phillies came back with nine hits against Jesse Orosco and Roger McDowell, scoring five runs to win 5–4. It would have been the first no-hitter in Mets history.

          You hate him just because you were at that game and he made an error? Except he wasn't charged with an error. That's odd.

          Hernandez won a Gold Glove that year, committing only 10 errors in 154 games [baseball-reference.com] that season.

          In his seven years as a Met, [baseball-reference.com] Hernandez hit .297, with an on-base percentage of .387 and an OPS of .816.

          Keith was likely the best first baseman the Mets every had, and a strong leader on the team. Without him, the Mets *never* would have won the world series in '86.

          And you hate him because you mis-remember him making an error at *one* game which you don't remember the date? Damn! I hope you don't mis-remember something about me

          Was that the only Mets game you ever attended? Are you even a Mets fan?

          Geez, Louise!

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by isj on Friday March 06 2020, @01:52AM (2 children)

      by isj (5249) on Friday March 06 2020, @01:52AM (#967212) Homepage

      You only get 50% for your answer to #17


      I still have my box with "OS/2 2.11 for Symmetrical Multiprocessing" and the CD-ROM and 3½" floppies.
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 06 2020, @02:08AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 06 2020, @02:08AM (#967218)

        Yeah. I was thinking it might have been, but I *knew* about the later version.

        Thanks for correcting me.

      • (Score: 2) by dry on Friday March 06 2020, @04:33PM

        by dry (223) on Friday March 06 2020, @04:33PM (#967495) Journal

        Even the last version IBM put out, Warp Server for Business, aka Warp v4.52 still had components that weren't SMP safe. Things like tcpip32.dll, keyboard.sys and the video system not setting MTTR's on all the CPU's (some BIOSes did though) and others that slip my mind.
        Shame that OS/2 2.11 probably wouldn't even start to load the kernel on modern hardware.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 06 2020, @12:23AM (19 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 06 2020, @12:23AM (#967173)

    "1. What is the advantage of unidirectional printing on a dot-matrix printer?"

    I'm guessing the bidirectional ones are faster but perhaps the unidirectional ones are cheaper and jam less?

    IIRC if the unidirectional one jammed you can often fix it by pushing the header back to its starting position because only the printer can move it in the opposite direction (can't remember if there was a way to move it in the opposite direction with the printer off?). If a bidirectional one got stuck you couldn't easily push it in either direction (did they have a way you can do that, like a lever you can push or pull, can't remember?)?

    It's been so long and I was so young when those things were around that I can't really remember.

    • (Score: 2) by Snotnose on Friday March 06 2020, @12:39AM (3 children)

      by Snotnose (1623) on Friday March 06 2020, @12:39AM (#967180)

      Back then you could double the throughput by printing every other line backwards. You saved the time wasted bringing the print head home.

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      • (Score: 4, Interesting) by JoeMerchant on Friday March 06 2020, @02:22AM (2 children)

        by JoeMerchant (3937) on Friday March 06 2020, @02:22AM (#967225)

        #1


        Yes, time saved in bi-directional, but the question asks advantages of uni-directional. When I did a lot of bi-directional printing, I would burn through (expensive) print heads faster than ribbons - this was at work. Ask the boss-man: "you want this in 45 minutes, or 90?" Boss-man: "why would I ever say 90?" "Because if I print it in 45, you'll be buying another new $80 print head next week..."
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        • (Score: 4, Interesting) by EETech1 on Friday March 06 2020, @03:56AM (1 child)

          by EETech1 (957) on Friday March 06 2020, @03:56AM (#967272)

          I guess I never printed enough to wear out a printhead, but I do recall unidirectional printing seemed to print darker because the ribbon advanced continuously, but not as fast as the printhead, so the same section of ribbon printed twice as many characters going bidirectional.

          There was also a sight decrease in print quality because the ribbon was advancing in one direction while being impacted by the head in the other direction. The ribbon would be all wrinkled or wavy from top to bottom and a densely printed page would appear stripped and blotchy.
          (We used to tractor paper print long ASCII art like graphs with histograms and multiple data sets)

          This wave in the ribbon would become especially evident if you reinked your own ribbons, eventually they would start rubbing the paper and create smudges. The unidirectionally printed ribbon could be reinked until it was so worn through it didn't give your acceptable contrast. The bidirectionaly printed ribbons were too wavy to use after a few refills.

          I miss the scream of 30 Okidata Microlines in a hallway...

          Here's how I get by now...
          The Device Orchestra!
          https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDwMh0pu1iSXeKx7qmqjIQA [youtube.com]

          Queen's We Will Rock You played by an electric toothbrush, credit card machine, epilator, ladyshave, and three typewriters. Yup!
          https://youtu.be/Hh9pm9yjmLs [youtu.be]

          • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Saturday March 07 2020, @04:08AM

            by JoeMerchant (3937) on Saturday March 07 2020, @04:08AM (#967805)

            We had the wide carriage printer, I think 17", whatever it was it tractor fed that big green/white paper and when we'd scale "the big spreadsheet" to fit on it (very small print) it was literal murder on the print head. This was back in 640K limit days and the spreadsheet didn't fit in 640K of RAM, so it had chained parts with sub-results that would feed over to the master page to get the final totals. About once a week somebody would want the updated paper copy of the spreadsheet to take to a meeting, but of course they'd be bringing in updates to it like 30 minutes before the meeting, so printing it was always a rush job.

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    • (Score: 2) by barbara hudson on Friday March 06 2020, @12:45AM

      by barbara hudson (6443) <barbara.Jane.hudson@icloud.com> on Friday March 06 2020, @12:45AM (#967181) Journal
      Doesn't matter the type of printer, you can always move the head by shoving it. If that doesn't work, it was broken anyway. There are lots of things that you can fix, even today, with BFMI.
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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 06 2020, @02:01AM (12 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 06 2020, @02:01AM (#967216)

      Unidirectional printers were cheaper (not as much memory or processing needed), had higher quality output, many didn't smudge as badly, and they could double strike bold and do other text effects because they handled the \r and \n seperately.

      But, I'm not sure if which of those, if any, is what they are going for due to the singular in the sentence.

      • (Score: 2) by barbara hudson on Friday March 06 2020, @03:32AM (1 child)

        by barbara hudson (6443) <barbara.Jane.hudson@icloud.com> on Friday March 06 2020, @03:32AM (#967262) Journal
        Bidirectional printers could do bold just fine since the return stroke wasn't exactly over the left-to-right.
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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 06 2020, @05:55AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 06 2020, @05:55AM (#967303)

          With the mechanical tolerances, it wasn't uncommon to get ghosting rather than the nice looking overstrike when printing BiDi.

      • (Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Friday March 06 2020, @04:40AM (9 children)

        by hendrikboom (1125) Subscriber Badge on Friday March 06 2020, @04:40AM (#967284) Homepage Journal

        they handled the \r and \n seperately

        As specified by the ASCII character set in those days.

        Unix cheated.

        • (Score: 2) by dry on Friday March 06 2020, @04:38PM (8 children)

          by dry (223) on Friday March 06 2020, @04:38PM (#967500) Journal

          Right from the beginning back in the '60's ASCII allowed both \n and\r \n as EOL chars (memory was expensive). Shame they didn't just have an EOL char

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 06 2020, @08:22PM (7 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 06 2020, @08:22PM (#967624)

            Which is sort of why I see why \n is handled the way it is. \r is sort of ambiguous, as you could literally mean just to return the carriage to allow double or over striking or the like. A \n without an implied \r is less useful as you can just space yourself over again.

            • (Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Friday March 06 2020, @08:36PM (1 child)

              by hendrikboom (1125) Subscriber Badge on Friday March 06 2020, @08:36PM (#967639) Homepage Journal

              And, of course, why unicode has a newline character. Which pretty well nobody uses, because \n got used for it first.

              • (Score: 2) by dry on Friday March 06 2020, @09:09PM

                by dry (223) on Friday March 06 2020, @09:09PM (#967656) Journal

                I sometimes run OS/2 (actually ArcaOS betas) and port stuff, the different line endings between the Dosish world and *nix world is irritating. At least most of OS/2 doesn't seem to care what you use for EOL or even as a directory separator, another irritant.

            • (Score: 2) by dry on Friday March 06 2020, @08:59PM (4 children)

              by dry (223) on Friday March 06 2020, @08:59PM (#967652) Journal

              There's times when a simple linefeed is needed. I learned on an Apple II where most all the control characters were "printable" and could be used for moving the cursor around. Of course just to confuse things, a CR was used as an EOL character, which coming from using a typewriter did make sense. Used to be able to do things like ring the bell (beep actually) by typing or printing CTRL-G too.

              • (Score: 2) by drussell on Friday March 06 2020, @10:45PM (3 children)

                by drussell (2678) on Friday March 06 2020, @10:45PM (#967687) Journal

                Used to be able to do things like ring the bell (beep actually) by typing or printing CTRL-G too.

                echo ^G

                still works here... :)

                • (Score: 2) by dry on Friday March 06 2020, @11:06PM (2 children)

                  by dry (223) on Friday March 06 2020, @11:06PM (#967695) Journal

                  Not here,
                  H:\>echo ^G
                  ^G

                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 06 2020, @11:21PM (1 child)

                    by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 06 2020, @11:21PM (#967700)

                    echo -e \\a usually works

                    • (Score: 2) by dry on Friday March 06 2020, @11:32PM

                      by dry (223) on Friday March 06 2020, @11:32PM (#967703) Journal

                      [h:\] echo -e \\a
                      -e \\a

                      [h:\] which echo
                      O:/USR/BIN/echo.exe

                      [h:\] ver -r

                      4OS2 3.09 OS/2 Version is 4.50

                      [h:\] o:\usr\bin\echo -e \\a
                      \a

    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 06 2020, @11:47AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 06 2020, @11:47AM (#967362)

      Unidirectional produced less wavy vertical lines.
      In graphics printing, unidirectional allowed to cool down head, but it was important mostly in a really messy 24-pin printers.
  • (Score: 2) by Rich on Friday March 06 2020, @01:11AM (9 children)

    by Rich (945) on Friday March 06 2020, @01:11AM (#967188) Journal

    14. Out of my head. The instruction is not "eioio", but "eieio": "Enforce In-Order Execution of IO". Sets a sequence barrier for superscalar execution of the Load/Store unit, so the loads and stores are guaranteed to come in a determined sequence. Not as much of a performance penalty as "sync" which does a full flush.

    For 1, the advantage for me was that the dots were aligned better when printing in "NLQ" (now that abbreviation would be another question...).

    Wild and wilder guesses: 5: Larry. 6: because of the little magnetic rings? 7: 80186?! 11: Wasn't the PC joystick analog? (I'd still know the Apple II joystick had 150k pots) 17a: NT4??? 18: Something distant in my head says "234" 20: The Amiga.

    I'll have to pass on the others.

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by Rich on Friday March 06 2020, @01:16AM (2 children)

      by Rich (945) on Friday March 06 2020, @01:16AM (#967190) Journal

      Damn. 1 second after posting, it occured to me: 5 must have been

      Infocom's "Leather Godesses of Phobos".

      And sorry for spoiling the others. The update with the request to hide spoilers didn't show when I first loaded the page (or I overlooked it...). But then, who but me would have done PowerPC assembly and kernel driver hacking and could've known anyway... ;)

      • (Score: 1) by Ethanol-fueled on Friday March 06 2020, @01:41AM

        by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Friday March 06 2020, @01:41AM (#967205) Homepage

        You prematurely ejaculated as I did. You read only the questions and not anything below them before jumping to blurt out your answers, then had that "oh shit" moment.

        Modded informative for providing answers tho, nigga.

      • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 06 2020, @02:42AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 06 2020, @02:42AM (#967238)

        Doesn't everybody? I worked on the MC/OS kernel. We were crazy enough to build the software in two versions, one of which would set the LE and ILE bits in the MSR register of an MPC7410 CPU. That should horrify you. It puts the CPU into little-endian mode, with the nasty side effect of swapping all 8 byte lanes on the bus.

        Anyway...

        You missed something. See my "eieio, joe" comment. If you didn't know that, your kernel was unsafe.

    • (Score: 2) by barbara hudson on Friday March 06 2020, @01:22AM (5 children)

      by barbara hudson (6443) <barbara.Jane.hudson@icloud.com> on Friday March 06 2020, @01:22AM (#967194) Journal
      NLQ, microprint
      NLQ: Near Letter Quality

      Microprint: 160 characters per line, 132 lines per standard 8-1/2X11 sheet

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      • (Score: 2) by dltaylor on Friday March 06 2020, @03:53AM (4 children)

        by dltaylor (4693) on Friday March 06 2020, @03:53AM (#967271)

        not exactly: Near Letter Quality

        If you had a Daisy Wheel or Selectric printer, then you had actual letter quality.

        I had the Daisy Wheel, which was much quieter than the Selectric-as-printer.

        • (Score: 2) by drussell on Friday March 06 2020, @04:19AM

          by drussell (2678) on Friday March 06 2020, @04:19AM (#967281) Journal

          We had a Diablo 1620.

          It was most certainly NOT quiet. :)

        • (Score: 2) by Oakenshield on Friday March 06 2020, @06:03AM

          by Oakenshield (4900) on Friday March 06 2020, @06:03AM (#967308)

          IBM Quietwriter was the bomb back then. It was very wispy quiet and the print was phenomenal for the time. The only issue was the single pass ribbons.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 06 2020, @06:40AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 06 2020, @06:40AM (#967318)

          I do not remember daisy wheels being quiet. They were, perhaps the loudest machines I have regularly been exposed to in my life. OSHA literally required hearing protection in our batch printing room.

        • (Score: 3, Informative) by barbara hudson on Friday March 06 2020, @12:43PM

          by barbara hudson (6443) <barbara.Jane.hudson@icloud.com> on Friday March 06 2020, @12:43PM (#967377) Journal
          NLQ only applied to dot matrix printers. I had both a daisy wheel and a dot matrix. The daisy wheel only had one mode - letter quality.
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  • (Score: 2) by hemocyanin on Friday March 06 2020, @01:16AM (6 children)

    by hemocyanin (186) on Friday March 06 2020, @01:16AM (#967189) Journal

    So I was still in HS for #5 and I can make a few guesses here and there, but I totally failed:


    #5: Leisure Suite Larry was first released, and the first one I played was the one where he is on an island, I believe the 3rd release, but if I was to take a wild stab, I'd say it was the first release of LSL.

    #6: something something to do with magnetic rings -- way before my time though.

    #8: I was TRS-80 coco kid, by the time I was getting a DOS computer, I was getting DR-DOS, so ...

    #11: I'm guessing it is whether they were spring loaded to return to center? But I don't really know, except I do know my CoCo joysticks were not spring loaded (at least if I recall correctly).

    • (Score: 2) by vux984 on Friday March 06 2020, @02:37AM (4 children)

      by vux984 (5045) on Friday March 06 2020, @02:37AM (#967235)

      #5 that was my assumption too but i really don't recall.
      yep to #6, and me too.
      #8 me too.
      Your coco sticks were not spring loaded. I remember hating them.


      1. What is the advantage of unidirectional printing on a dot-matrix printer? i remember bidirectional was faster since it didn't have to move the print head back, i don't know what unidirectional would have as an advantage.
      2. What is the distance between the black marks on a thick yellow ethernet cable (10BASE5)? I went from coax and BNC connectors to 10baseT.
      4. How do you exit from a DOS program (interrupt number + subfunction) - int21 no idea the subfunction
      5. Which interactive game from 1986 had the settings tame..lewd, and a scratch'n'sniff card was in the box? Leisure suit larry would be my guess, but my copy was "borrowed" so i never saw the box or what was in it. but a scratch and sniff card wouldn't have been out of place. :)
      6. Why is a memory dump called a "core" dump? - reference to the original physical implementation of RAM; magnetic cores? something along that line.
      8. Which new features were in the file system in DOS 2.x when compared to DOS 1.x ? folders would be my guess (directories). My first DOS was 3.3
      13. Where is the main office of the Sirius Cybernetics Complaints Department located? - Hitchhikers guide reference ... no idea the answer though.
      15. Before Borland introduced their TurboVision, which toolkit was widespread for implementing windows/ISAM-files in Turbo Pascal? Hmm... my first language after basic was turbo pascal, but i have no idea. Was delphi a thing yet, or interbase, didn't borland own dbase at some point too?
      17. When was SMP supported by Windows? And OS/2? - NT3.x i'd think. as for os/2 were they still connected at that point or already split? I was still a child dammit.
      19. How do you mark a block in Wordstar? - I used Wordperfect. And I forget how i did it there too, but I still miss editing formatting directly.
      • (Score: 3, Interesting) by drussell on Friday March 06 2020, @03:07AM (2 children)

        by drussell (2678) on Friday March 06 2020, @03:07AM (#967250) Journal

        I used Wordperfect. And I forget how i did it there too, but I still miss editing formatting directly.

        ALT-F4 marks a block. (Alt-F3 is reveal codes, the feature you miss so much... :) )

        We still use the old text-mode (well, it does have graphical print preview, and maybe the equation editor?) WordPerfect 5.1 on a daily basis.

        Of course, it runs each copy in a dosbox on a FreeBSD machine that you connect to each session using VNC, instead of running on the local machines, but it's still in daily use here.

        • (Score: 2) by barbara hudson on Friday March 06 2020, @03:38AM (1 child)

          by barbara hudson (6443) <barbara.Jane.hudson@icloud.com> on Friday March 06 2020, @03:38AM (#967263) Journal
          Wordstar was ctl-k b for the beginning of the block, ctl-k k for the end of the block. Also used in quick edit and Borland dos turbo c and bc++.
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          • (Score: 2) by SDRefugee on Friday March 06 2020, @06:08PM

            by SDRefugee (4477) on Friday March 06 2020, @06:08PM (#967565)

            And if you use the Linux "joe" editor, you can still use those same WP key combinations. You can keep your nano/emacs/ed etc. Joe is one of the very first programs I install on a fresh Linux install.... Loved me some WP, back in the day..

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      • (Score: 2) by hemocyanin on Friday March 06 2020, @03:19PM

        by hemocyanin (186) on Friday March 06 2020, @03:19PM (#967441) Journal

        19, Word Perfect, Reveal Codes (F5?). Loved that.

    • (Score: 2) by el_oscuro on Friday March 06 2020, @03:00AM

      by el_oscuro (1711) on Friday March 06 2020, @03:00AM (#967244)

      No googling, but I think it is :


      Leather Goddess of Phobos
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  • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 06 2020, @01:18AM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 06 2020, @01:18AM (#967191)

    Wow, I finally found a use for that copy of Ralf Brown's Interrupt List I have sitting on the shelf here! Now, do I lose quiz points for not knowing the answer, or do I get cool points for still having the book? :)


    There appear to be several interrupts for terminating the program. The recommended way is INT 21h, function 4Ch, ah=0x4c, al=exit code. Other ways are INT 21h, function 0, and INT 20h. You could also set an atexit-type cleanup function using INT 22h that all three of these would call.
    • (Score: 3, Informative) by isj on Friday March 06 2020, @01:41AM

      by isj (5249) on Friday March 06 2020, @01:41AM (#967206) Homepage

      Using a paper copy of the famous Ralph Brown Interrupt List does not count as googling, so it's fine :-)

    • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Friday March 06 2020, @02:25AM (2 children)

      by JoeMerchant (3937) on Friday March 06 2020, @02:25AM (#967227)

      I think my C compilers handled that exit trivia bit for me, though I did have to rough it for RS-232 Rx and Tx interrupt handlers, especially rough on the Tx side - I later heard that there was a silicon bug in the 8259 chips which is why they were such a bitch to do interrupt driven Tx with.

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      • (Score: 2) by drussell on Friday March 06 2020, @03:10AM (1 child)

        by drussell (2678) on Friday March 06 2020, @03:10AM (#967251) Journal

        Yeah, for serial, I usually ended up just saying "screw it" and instead used a FOSSIL driver to do the heavy lifting.

        • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Friday March 06 2020, @03:03PM

          by JoeMerchant (3937) on Friday March 06 2020, @03:03PM (#967431)

          I think we went with a library called Greenleaf around 1996 and never looked back, but from 1990-1994 there wasn't much good choice on the market if you wanted to run a saturated 9600kbps line.

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  • (Score: 2) by coolgopher on Friday March 06 2020, @01:19AM (5 children)

    by coolgopher (1157) on Friday March 06 2020, @01:19AM (#967192)

    #4

    Uh, I *think* it's 21h / 00h, but it's been a long time...

    #5

    I never played it, but I'd be surprised if it's not Leisure Suit Larry

    #6

    Iron core matrix memory. Before my time, sadly/fortunately.

    #11

    Probably that the C64 were digital (i.e. on/off for each direction), while the PC joysticks were typically analog, though I thought I'd seen digital PC sticks too.

    #14

    I think you meant eieio, not eioio. And something about I/O write barriers.

    #17

    NT 3.5 from memory. And I think Warp. Didn't use either, but I installed Warp for a friend once. That experience made sure I never installed it again.

    #18

    I never got to use Fidonet. /sadface

    Corrections welcome :)

    • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Friday March 06 2020, @02:27AM

      by JoeMerchant (3937) on Friday March 06 2020, @02:27AM (#967228)

      Fidonet was the first inkling of the power of the internet for 'free' long distance communication. Before that there were actually BBS systems that would shuttle messages across the country on 'free local' hops, not many, but a few.

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    • (Score: 3, Informative) by dry on Friday March 06 2020, @05:02PM (2 children)

      by dry (223) on Friday March 06 2020, @05:02PM (#967525) Journal

      OS/2 2.11 had a SMP version. OS/2 demanded good hardware, then it installed fairly easily. I was impressed installing Warp as after copying the first 5 floppies to HD and rebooting, the system was usable enough to read the documentation while the othe 7 or 8 floppies were copied over plus the 12 or so for the bonus pack.

      • (Score: 2) by coolgopher on Friday March 06 2020, @09:57PM (1 child)

        by coolgopher (1157) on Friday March 06 2020, @09:57PM (#967668)

        Oh, wow, I wasn't aware 2.11 had it, thanks for letting me know.

        My experience with Warp was that it was incredibly sluggish compared to Windows on the same hardware. It's possible I failed to configure it properly, but from memory the install didn't ask all that many questions.

        • (Score: 2) by dry on Friday March 06 2020, @11:03PM

          by dry (223) on Friday March 06 2020, @11:03PM (#967692) Journal

          Probably swapping, OS/2 really needed 8-16MB's in a time when 4MBs was usual. I ended up stripping it down and it ran fine on 4MBs, funny enough updating to 8MBs slowed it down as only the first 4MBs were cached on my 386. If you'd compared it to NT on the same hardware...

    • (Score: 1) by chr on Saturday March 07 2020, @10:27AM

      by chr (4123) on Saturday March 07 2020, @10:27AM (#967861)

      Some additional details to #11:

      The C64 did indeed used four electrical switches and thus four digital inputs to detect up/down/left/right.

      The PC joysticks, IIRC, used a non-linear analog measuring principle where e.g. the up/down axis controlled a resistance that varies with the position.

      The sane way to do it would be as for e.g. joysticks for an RC aircraft, which I think since a long time back have used electrical wiring and an ADC such that you got a linear (actually affine) mapping from position to voltage to value. Instead, for PC joysticks the mapping from position to numerical value was nonlinear and measured through the discharge time of a capacitance.

      This had an annoying effect: If you did a small joystick movement in the middle, you'd get one change for the numerical value. If you did the same small movement e.g. at the up position, the corresponding numerical change wouldn't be the same as in the middle, nor as if the joystick was at the down position.

  • (Score: 2) by arslan on Friday March 06 2020, @01:31AM (1 child)

    by arslan (3462) on Friday March 06 2020, @01:31AM (#967197)

    What is the visual administration tool in AIX called?


    Runner?
    I remember the logo/progress bar was a dude running though...
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 06 2020, @07:19AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 06 2020, @07:19AM (#967329)

      What is the visual administration tool in AIX called?

      Actually, it was

      smit for the X-windows tool and smitty for the terminal tool. I always preferred smitty, as it was faster and more responsive

      .

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 06 2020, @01:33AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 06 2020, @01:33AM (#967198)

    My answer to question #5 is:


    Infocom's Leather Goddesses of Phobos.
    I still have a copy of the C64 version.
  • (Score: 2) by drussell on Friday March 06 2020, @01:38AM (3 children)

    by drussell (2678) on Friday March 06 2020, @01:38AM (#967202) Journal

    Off the top of my head, I'm pretty sure that these eight are correct:


    1. Better alignment at the expense of speed

    2. Station tap spacing... 2.5 metres

    4. 00h terminates, 4Ch with an errorlevel code, 31h for a TSR

    5. LSL

    6. Because olde timey memory used magnetic cores to store bits instead of tiny capacitors.

    8. Directories, for one...

    11. Was the C64 just switches, like The TI-99/4A? PCs and Apple used potentiometers and a crude DAC made from a 556 (dual 555) to get a position from 0-255 instead of just dumb up/down/left/right/fire switches.

    18. My BBS was 1:134/45 :)

    I still have that phone number and a whole box of USR Couriers, maybe I should put one back up. :)

    • (Score: 2) by drussell on Friday March 06 2020, @01:46AM (1 child)

      by drussell (2678) on Friday March 06 2020, @01:46AM (#967209) Journal

      Shit, I should have done them separately:

      1.


      Better alignment at the expense of speed

      2.


      Station tap spacing... 2.5 metres

      4.


      00h terminates, 4Ch with an errorlevel code, 31h for a TSR

      5.


      LSL

      6.


      Because olde timey memory used magnetic cores to store bits instead of tiny capacitors.

      8.


      Directories, for one...

      11.


      Was the C64 just switches, like The TI-99/4A? PCs and Apple used potentiometers and a crude DAC made from a 556 (dual 555) to get a position from 0-255 instead of just dumb up/down/left/right/fire switches.

      18.


      My BBS was 1:134/45 :)

      I still have that phone number and a whole box of USR Couriers, maybe I should put one back up. :

      • (Score: 2) by el_oscuro on Friday March 06 2020, @03:21AM

        by el_oscuro (1711) on Friday March 06 2020, @03:21AM (#967256)

        11:


        C64 Joysticks were plug compatible with Atari 2600 ones. Otherwise your post was spot on.
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    • (Score: 2) by drussell on Friday March 06 2020, @02:00AM

      by drussell (2678) on Friday March 06 2020, @02:00AM (#967215) Journal

      Oh, and I forgot to be specific on #4:


      Didn't specify the int #... all INT 21h; functions 00h, 4Ch and 31h.

      ...for those who wouldn't already know which BIOS INT those would be in... haha

      I wrote lots of disk tool stuff using functions in INT 13h trying to make my poor old pair of Miniscribe 3560s that were on a Perstor (jammed 31 sectors per track instead of the usual MFM 17) live just a little longer, just a little longer, as the magnetic coating on the disks wore out... because disks were freakin' EXPENSIVE!

      Ahh, good times.... :)

  • (Score: 3, Informative) by shortscreen on Friday March 06 2020, @02:13AM

    by shortscreen (2252) on Friday March 06 2020, @02:13AM (#967221) Journal
    Subdirectories!
  • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Friday March 06 2020, @02:16AM

    by JoeMerchant (3937) on Friday March 06 2020, @02:16AM (#967223)

    Like me.

    #1


    It allows the head to cool down, constant bi-directional printing makes the head run much hotter and therefore wear out much faster. In a worn out print head all the little impact wires bunching up in a ball instead of staying in a line like they are supposed to. I could kill a brand new Okidata print head in under a week doing bi-directional wide format printing of spreadsheets.

    #5


    I don't know, but I'm going to guess one of the Leisure Suit Larry sequels...

    #11


    I don't know C64 joysticks, but I do know that standard Atari joysticks had 4 contact buttons enabling only 8 directional choices whereas standard PC joysticks used a pair of potentiometers.

    #20


    I'll go with Amiga, but not 100% sure... seems like I knew about Amigas in the mid 80s whereas Norton Commander and HP laser jets were more of a very late '80s/early 90s phenomenon.

    I'm actually pretty happy that I don't know more of that trivia ;-P

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  • (Score: 4, Touché) by Hartree on Friday March 06 2020, @02:19AM

    by Hartree (195) on Friday March 06 2020, @02:19AM (#967224)

    Go stick your head in a pig!

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 06 2020, @02:31AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 06 2020, @02:31AM (#967230)

    My answer to question #1 is:


    Hysteresis problems would be eliminated if printing was unidirectional.

    My answer to question #2 is:


    2 meters between marks on Ethernet

    My answer to question #5 is:


    Leisure Suit Larry

    My answer to question #6 is:


    Magnetic core memory

    My answer to question #8 is:


    Directories, and the kernel got mountpoints (from Xenix code) to support the subst and join commands

    My answer to question #14 is:


    It was "eieio". It created a pair of simultaneous but independent memory fences, one in guarded memory (typically MMIO) and one in unguarded memory (typically RAM). Note that ordering between guarded and unguarded memory was not fenced at all.

    My answer to question #19 is:


    Wordstar keystrokes live on in joe. Do "apt-get install joe" then mark your blocks with ^KB and ^KK like a civilized being.
  • (Score: 4, Touché) by EJ on Friday March 06 2020, @02:39AM

    by EJ (2452) on Friday March 06 2020, @02:39AM (#967237)

    I'm old enough to understand all of these questions and to know the desired answer to several of them, but the correct answer to ALL of them is, "Who cares?"

    Nobody needs to remember any of this information. It's not useful anymore. As Sherlock said, it's just mental clutter.

    Triumph said it best below...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKT7bx-fmtk&feature=youtu.be&t=633 [youtube.com]

  • (Score: 2) by el_oscuro on Friday March 06 2020, @03:02AM (1 child)

    by el_oscuro (1711) on Friday March 06 2020, @03:02AM (#967246)

    Amiga (1985)

    I think Norton came out a few years later and the Laser Jet was pretty shiny new in 1990

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    • (Score: 2) by drussell on Friday March 06 2020, @04:02AM

      by drussell (2678) on Friday March 06 2020, @04:02AM (#967274) Journal

      I don't think you're quite right on that one. We got our first LaserJet III in 1990 (currently has over 800,000 pages on the Canon LBP-SX engine!!)

      The original CX-engined LaserJet came out in 84, as did the original LaserWriter (also a CX), I assume. My dad's business partner bought one for $4000 to use with his fancy new AT&T PC-6300... and a Hayes SmartModem 2400 when it first came out in '85 (at $800 CAD!) (I only paid something like $650 for my first Courier HST, although that WAS on the USR sysop program. It was the first model that did proprietary 14.4k HST with the 450 baud backchannel, up from the previous max of 9600/300. What a beast that thing is. I remember it uses an Intel 80188 processor.)

      I later ended up getting to use that 2400 baud SmartModem at home for several years... Even by that point, I was one of the only callers into the local BBSes that had 2400 baud other than other sysops. Everyone else thought 1200 was still great. It certainly was better than my 300 baud Radio Shack "direct connect" manual modem with the red connect button and the originate/answer switch that replaced the Atari acoustic coupler set we used before... LOL Geez, I still remember downloading pkxarc35 for the first time. Man, I'm old. At least my memorys till works. :)

      I still have that Radio Shack modem, I happen to know it's sitting beside one of my servers downstairs.... LOL

  • (Score: 2) by el_oscuro on Friday March 06 2020, @03:10AM

    by el_oscuro (1711) on Friday March 06 2020, @03:10AM (#967252)

    Am I the only one who got #5 right? What dude as a teenager could forgetConnection reset by pier

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 06 2020, @03:24AM (5 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 06 2020, @03:24AM (#967257)

    My answer to question 1 -unidirectional printing is:


    NFI
    All dot matrix printers I saw printed left to right.

    My answer to question 2 yellow ethernet is:


    NFI
    I know 10BASET

    My answer to question 3 - SuperMAX DDE is:


    The what?

    My answer to question 4 DOS exit is:


    nope, too long, or never knew.. I remember something about hacking to insert a jump in the code.. at some point.. with a hex editor.. wow.. memory is shot. Nope.

    My answer to question 5 Game interactive is:


    Leisure Suit Larry?

    My answer to question 6 core dump is:


    I don't think I ever knew.. or if I did.. I've forgotten

    My answer to question 7 Siemens PC-D is:


    NFI

    My answer to question 8 DOS is:


    No idea. DOS... hrr.. 3? 4? whatever was on the 086 / 286 .. was it for me. But, DOS 6.22 was the it man. It rocked. Then WIn95 came along and those boot disks were no longer needed.

    My answer to question 9 AIX is:


    NFI

    My answer to question 10 Amoeba OS is:


    NFI

    My answer to question 11 Joysticks is:


    I never used a C64 joystick.. that I remember :(

    My answer to question 12 COBOL is:


    80
    How is this a trick question?
    Originally COBOL was encoded on punch cards.. when they brought that into the mainframe world.. it converted to 80
    Lines can be extended to wrap around, but the original compiler expects the code to be in the first 80 columns.

    My answer to question 13 Cybernetics is:


    Who? Is this about the Terminator movie?

    My answer to question 14 eioio is:


    What?

    My answer to question 15 Borland is:


    I can't remember. It was either on the machine, or you copied it.

    My answer to question 16 creat is:


    Because unix devs like short names?

    My answer to question 17 SMP is:


    NFI

    My answer to question 18 Fudinet is:


    Hrr.. I joined when BBC was fun

    My answer to question 19 Wordstar is:


    *cry*
    I can't remember. My first real PC .. only had Wordstar...

    My answer to question 20 who came first is:


    NFI
    • (Score: 2) by drussell on Friday March 06 2020, @03:40AM

      by drussell (2678) on Friday March 06 2020, @03:40AM (#967264) Journal

      My answer to question 3 - SuperMAX DDE is:

              *SPOILER* (click to hide)

              The what?

      LOL... yeah, I don't know that specific machine off the top of my head, but my guess is that it would be something like my Wang 2200 systems:


      Probably didn't have a processor, per se, but rather built out of individual logic blocks.

      The Wang 2200 series uses four 4-bit bitslice 74181 ALUs for the main math functions. The CPU is built out of 7400 series logic, spread across multiple boards. One is mainly ALU, one is MMU, etc. etc.

    • (Score: 3, Funny) by Bot on Friday March 06 2020, @02:15PM (1 child)

      by Bot (3902) on Friday March 06 2020, @02:15PM (#967405) Journal

      I have the right question for you: what's the acronym for the Norwegian Film Institute?

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    • (Score: 2) by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us on Friday March 06 2020, @04:25PM (1 child)

      by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us (6553) on Friday March 06 2020, @04:25PM (#967488) Journal

      No, to answer #13 you really have to know where your towel is and be a hoopy frood.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 08 2020, @10:21AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 08 2020, @10:21AM (#968142)

        but... I do know where my towel is.. and.. I am a hoopy frood..

  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 06 2020, @03:47AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 06 2020, @03:47AM (#967267)

    My answer to question #18 is:


    I was in Zone 1 (USA), Net 387 at the time. I ran a multinode BBS (Desqview, and later OS/2) and hung off the Southern Star for hubbing out Echo and File distributions. Pulled in newsgroups as well.

    (Also a member of a couple of Fidonet compatible networks, e.g. RBBS-NET, Zone 8)

    I remember arguing at a Fidocon with Tom Jennings about whether USR looking up BBS's in the nodelist to qualify them for the sysop program was a commercial use of the nodelist. Good times :-)
    (I've still got a USR Sysop Program modem with the brass "Not for Resale" plate on it downstairs.)

    • (Score: 2) by drussell on Friday March 06 2020, @04:13AM

      by drussell (2678) on Friday March 06 2020, @04:13AM (#967277) Journal

      I remember arguing at a Fidocon with Tom Jennings about whether USR looking up BBS's in the nodelist to qualify them for the sysop program was a commercial use of the nodelist. Good times :-)

      (I've still got a USR Sysop Program modem with the brass "Not for Resale" plate on it downstairs.)

      Ahh, fun times. :)

      I don't think my original "giant" HST has a plate on it, but my 33.6k model from the sysop program does.

      Did you ever see or use one of the USR Courier I-Modems? They looked pretty much identical to the analog modems but had green LEDs. Very disconcerting. :)

      I had four of those but ended up trading them back in for an RAS-1500.

  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by dltaylor on Friday March 06 2020, @03:48AM (3 children)

    by dltaylor (4693) on Friday March 06 2020, @03:48AM (#967269)

    My LaserJet 2P was a great piece to use with the Amiga. I had the PacificPage PostScript cartridge and 4 MB (yes "M", children). The Amiga "spoke" PostScript, so I could let the printer do all the compositing. I built my own "SideCar" to hold a 2 MB memory card and serial card, so I had more memory in my printer than in the computer.

    Had to write my own driver for my OkiData 84 dot matrix, but it did NOT have the problem associated with uni- vs bi-directional printing.

    Still miss that setup, sometimes, specially when fighting some Windows 10 weirdness.

    • (Score: 2) by Oakenshield on Friday March 06 2020, @06:14AM (2 children)

      by Oakenshield (4900) on Friday March 06 2020, @06:14AM (#967309)

      I got a Pacific Page cartridge second hand. We had an original HP Laserjet in the office. When the fuser heated up the room lights would literally flicker. After a print, the whole room smelled of ozone. And the damn thing must have weighed 100 lbs.

      • (Score: 2) by dltaylor on Friday March 06 2020, @09:08AM (1 child)

        by dltaylor (4693) on Friday March 06 2020, @09:08AM (#967346)

        The 2P (as in "Personal", I s'pose) was much smaller and a bit slower.

        Bought mine when the base price went under USD$1000, then put in/on enough accessories to put it over $1500. Thing lasted until 2011 with few, and relatively inexpensive, repairs (like rollers); finally couldn't get any parts. That sort of service is unlikely with any printer made in the decade, it seems.

        • (Score: 2) by Oakenshield on Friday March 06 2020, @02:51PM

          by Oakenshield (4900) on Friday March 06 2020, @02:51PM (#967424)

          Yes. The old HPs up through the HP 4 were tanks. Replace the pickup rollers and the separation pads every now and then and they ran forever. The new ones, not so much. The 2P and its brother the 3P were rugged, but damn they were slow. What was it? Four pages per minute or something like that? Great print, but slow as molasses.

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