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Combat drone to compete against piloted plane:
The US Air Force will pit an advanced autonomous aircraft against a piloted plane in a challenge set for July 2021.
The project could eventually lead to unpiloted fighter aircraft that use artificial intelligence (AI).
Lt Gen Jack Shanahan, head of the Pentagon's Joint Artificial Intelligence Center, called the test a "bold, bold idea".
Air Force Magazine also described the development of autonomous fighter jets as a "big Moonshot" for the military.
[...] When announced in 2018, the project envisioned the development of an unpiloted fighter jet.
Asked by Air Force Magazine whether this was still the objective, Lt Gen Shanahan said he did not know but added that AI-enabled systems could be used in other ways.
"Maybe I shouldn't be thinking about a 65ft-wingspan, maybe it is a small autonomous swarming capability," he explained.
Such swarms of drone aircraft could be deployed under a pilot's control or operate autonomously. A US military project called Skyborg will explore how the pilot of a fighter jet could control other drone aircraft - which would act as airborne sidekicks.
[Protoss] Carrier has arrived.
(Score: 1) by RandomFactor on Saturday June 06 2020, @01:57AM
This has to succeed just for the name.
В «Правде» нет известий, в «Известиях» нет правды
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2020, @02:06AM (7 children)
Remote piloted drones still have someone in control. When used to kill people, that pilot is removed from direct interaction with the aircraft, the munitions, the reality of delivering that deadly blow.
There's already plenty of reasons using drones would make people more willing to kill. Now even that isn't enough and fully autonomous killing machines are in the testing stages. No more guilt at all, just instructions the plane followed.
Collateral damage? Not even worth a "we're sorry" anymore because there's no longer a person to blame.
Glitch in the software? Will that get a "we'll fix it next time," or a "bad luck...surely it won't happen again?"
With the way things are going right now, I would expect the president of the US would turn these loose on protestors just so he could show how he "dominated" them.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2020, @04:09AM (3 children)
Heh. It was OBAMA who pioneered drone executions. Give credit to the man!
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2020, @05:39AM (2 children)
Are you claiming Trump is somehow different from Obama?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2020, @05:42AM (1 child)
In many, many ways. In some, not. What a silly post.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2020, @06:15AM
Good point. Obama didn't need to scotch tape his ties.
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2020, @05:30PM
more like #notabug, #wontfix
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2020, @10:00PM
Sounds like we can just hold the guy in the local computer store accountable. His hair is kinda long and I heard he likes cocks up his ass. Tech dorks are incomplete beings and only create death. They will never know what it is for a child to grow inside of them. Therefore, we should make sure that only companies staffed by real men like Boeing are developing this tech.
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 07 2020, @03:37PM
If US soldiers were trained like US cops, they'd be killing happily and guilt-free whether they're killing with a drone or up close and personal.
https://www.npr.org/2016/12/08/504718239/military-trained-police-may-be-slower-to-shoot-but-that-got-this-vet-fired [npr.org]
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/06/57-buffalo-cops-resign-to-support-suspended-officers-who-pushed-down-elderly-man/ [rawstory.com]
(Score: 3, Funny) by krishnoid on Saturday June 06 2020, @02:29AM (4 children)
Whether one would rather fight a single drone-sized duck or a hundred duck-sized drones.
(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Saturday June 06 2020, @03:14AM (2 children)
We already have "drone weapons" in the form of radar and heat seeking missiles. One (of several hundred) interesting variation would be a C-130 filled with killer bees - anybody gets within 10 seconds of missile range and they've got a swarm of angry bees on them.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2020, @04:11AM
Don't forget cruise missiles.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2020, @08:15AM
For some real fun, look up the U.S. "bat bombs" from WW2.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2020, @02:27PM
They could name them after Trump. Imagine being attacked by a "Donald" duck.
(Score: 2) by Fnord666 on Saturday June 06 2020, @03:16AM (10 children)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2020, @03:34AM
No, this is the other one with cgi Ryan Reynolds.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2020, @03:43AM
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2020, @04:13AM (7 children)
War isn't meant to be terrible, unless you mean for the other side.
It's meant to break *their* ability and will to fight.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2020, @05:41AM (6 children)
It's all fun and games until the Red Army starts liberating your concentration camps.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2020, @05:47AM (5 children)
The Red Army almost broke the ability and will of its own soldiers to fight.
That's why the commanders led their grunts from the rear with rifles aimed at their backs. For encouragement.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2020, @05:59AM (4 children)
What is wrong with Nazis that makes war so appealing to them?
(Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday June 06 2020, @10:17AM (3 children)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2020, @05:49PM (2 children)
This is the International Jew version of events. You know, the people who wrote/approved your school books and decide what you see on TV?
Remember kids, Kevin James and the Jews who control hollywood say you're a literal "Nazi" (Jew slur for NSDAP meaning "bumkin, yokel, hillbilly etc. https://www.warhistoryonline.com/instant-articles/the-origin-of-the-term-nazi.html)" [warhistoryonline.com] if you don't purposely breed your race out of existence: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10314450/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_3 [imdb.com]
Hitler tried repeatedly to avoid war (watch Last Appeal to Reason doc on TPB) Yes, going to war on multiple fronts was based on strategy, but as the best option they had available to possibly defend themselves against certain invasion, not out of hubris, as the history is written.
The blame for WW2 is on the Goy slave states(allies) who forced the war to put a independent (weeding out bankster scum and treasonous subversives who had already declared war on Germany and sabotaged her in WW1. See Adolf Hitler: The Greatest Story Never Told on TPB) and thriving Germany back in her place and kill as many Aryans as possible.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday June 06 2020, @07:37PM
Which in this case, happens to agree with the real world version of events. Nazi Germany did get its ass kicked so hard that it'll be in the history books long after everyone involved dies.
Sounds like your "race" isn't worth shit.
He annexed Austria, western Czechoslovakia, and then invaded Poland with the flimsiest of pretexts (faking attacks on a radio station), partitioning Poland with Russia. He then invaded a couple dozen more countries from France through the Balkans. Actions speak louder than your sorry excuses.
Not even wrong.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2020, @09:14PM
Good to know. I'll keep using it.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2020, @04:06AM (4 children)
First we abolish the police.
Then we abolish the military.
I see absolutely no downside, do you?
#BlackLivesMatter.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2020, @05:45AM
Should be fine as long you remember to also abolish private accumulation in your config. It's tricky to leave one of those enabled without the others.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2020, @05:51AM (2 children)
I think we need a new tag for posts such as my parent post.
It's not just sarcasm, it's meant to elicit radically different interpretations based on the temperament of the reader.
How about /rorschach ?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2020, @10:27AM (1 child)
it's obviously a troll, meant to associate the expression "blacklivesmatter" with the ridiculous, so that it loses its current meaning.
why do you say it can be interpreted in any other way?
(Score: 2) by takyon on Saturday June 06 2020, @10:46AM
Movement to defund police gains 'unprecedented' support across US [theguardian.com]
Police abolition ‘looks like Palo Alto,’ says professor Hakeem Jefferson at race, criminal justice panel [stanforddaily.com]
Let's Abolish the Police Force [lifehacker.com]
Why 'defund the police' has become the rallying cry at Seattle protests [kuow.org]
Portland Disbands School Police Program [reason.com]
Police abolition is definitely part of the BLM agenda, especially if you don't define abolition as "100% reduction".
Cutting military spending, isolationism, etc. has had plenty of support for over a century. With a nuclear deterrent in place, you could get away with cutting a large portion of the military. Drones and robots can replace or supplement the remaining soldiers.
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(Score: 2) by jelizondo on Saturday June 06 2020, @06:21AM
I’m betting on the drone, of course, it has to be two out of three matches, otherwise the movie is too short.
In the first two matches the drone really gets it but in the third round with only one wing and half a propeller the drone gets the pilot right between the eyes!
You heard here first.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2020, @09:56AM (2 children)
But in a fair fight, the drone should easily beat the human pilot. Even more so if you built fighters from the ground up to be unmanned, with higher maximum G, high negative G capability, no need for pilot life support, armor, ejection, controls, or vision.
The value of human pilots at this point is simply that humans can't be hacked.
(Score: 3, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 06 2020, @10:44AM
History would disagree. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Cold_War_pilot_defections [wikipedia.org]
(Score: 2) by Rupert Pupnick on Saturday June 06 2020, @01:12PM
You are exactly right. Higher G force tolerance allows higher turning rates, and with the right camera placement, the field of view can be completely unobstructed.